This is my goodbye

[joshnadin]

Why would you try to say I said something when i clearly didn't.

It's extremely clear that dealers spinning the wheel have to watch a TV screen telling them how hard to spin and when to release.

Lol, okay then pal..  
It may be every so slightly differently worded. But, the principal of what you said remains the same.

Main reason I mentioned Kim here is because once he said that he is not afraid of magnets on roullete but dealers that can hit specific section on live roulete. Now imagine guy that says that but it s not willing to think about wheels that are manipulated by machine.

Roulette is entirely different. There are sections of the wheel. On crazy time, the bonus' are distributed way differently.
But, dealers can't hit a certain section. No matter what rumours you may hear. Take it from someone who's dealt hundreds of thousands of spins of roulette.
If we could, I would have been a millionaire by colluding with my friends a long time ago.

I never said I wasn't willing to think about it. But, after a few seconds, logic takes precedent.

Rtp maths may guarantee the house healthy long term profit but there is many reasons why they would want more control over everything.

Like what? The same maths that has been making them consistent profit for decades is no longer good enough? What more control do you need? And, for what reason?

Like i said earlier for games like Crazytime it's to ensure many huge wins don't happen consecutively etc. For slots the algorithms are likely designed to get everyone playing/depositing regularly based on credit checks etc.

Id love for someone to debunk my claims with solid proof.  

What? You're seriously sitting there and saying that casinos run credit checks on players and manipulate that players specific players game outcomes accordingly? Why? What benefit would it give them?

Now, it really is time to take off the tin foil hat. First of all, you can see any company who has looked up your credit report yourself. Casinos can look up your credit report for AML purposes to verify your identity, but legally have no access to the section of your credit report that shows your 'score' or any of your financial accounts. So would have no clue of your financial situation based from it.

Besides the fact that it is 110% illegal and would be so, so easy to prove they are doing this.

The player can't bet while the wheel is in motion as this would allow time to predict where it stops. Yet it's funny the multiplier wheel is allowed this time to make a prediction before it reveals the multiplier. Why does no one question this possible house control?

The exact same reason why the dealers don't let you bet on a roulette wheel past a certain point. It would give an unfair advantage. If the multiplier wheel was not given time, then players would just bet on whatever section the multiplier lands on, again giving them a massive advantage.

Btw I just checked tracksino.com results. Look at how the wheel avoids certain bonuses at certain times. You can calculate the odds for this scenario and like this one (wheel avoiding CT and Pachinco) happens quite often. Only after the amount of players drop under 5k, it starts giving these bonuses again. 

Here we go  Steve enters the the thread with the same delusions.

You have no basis for what you're saying. Apart from your very bias point of view as you self proclaimed that you're tilted with Evo, can you show us all some data or proof that 'only after players drop under 5k it starts giving bonus again?' 

You can even feel free to use the data from the 'bot you created', which appears to do nothing differently than what CasinoScores or Tracksino already does anyway.

 

[Stevej]

Here we go  Steve enters the the thread with the same delusions.

You have no basis for what you're saying. Apart from your very bias point of view as you self proclaimed that you're tilted with Evo, can you show us all some data or proof that 'only after players drop under 5k it starts giving bonus again?' 

You can even feel free to use the data from the 'bot you created', which appears to do nothing differently than what CasinoScores or Tracksino already does anyway.

Hi Josh! Hopefully all good and you got christmas presents.

Actually the bot gives you more data than Tracksino / Casinoscores. Individual RTPs, RTPs of all collected spins, Crazy Time bonus blue/yellow/green distribution, cold and hot streaks, mobile notifications of big wins and best strategy calculator and what to bet suggestions. It's already running online, but since it's my hobby project I haven't had time to finish it yet. Maybe soon!

Edit: Epiiic. 360 from CT bonus. The odds 0,11%. The bonus has vanished from the wheel. Follow the game and look how it avoids it.

 

[joshnadin]

Actually the bot gives you more data than Tracksino / Casinoscores. Individual RTPs, RTPs of all collected spins, Crazy Time bonus blue/yellow/green distribution, cold and hot streaks, mobile notifications of big wins and best strategy calculator and what to bet suggestions. It's already running online, but since it's my hobby project I haven't had time to finish it yet. Maybe soon!

On a side note, that is interesting. If it works well, you could easily monetize that baby, or sell it to an existing casino tracker website. Kudos!

Hi Josh! Hopefully all good and you got christmas presents.

Santa forgot about me again Stevie! Maybe next year! 
I hope he left you something nice under the tree.

Edit: Epiiic. 360 from CT bonus. The odds 0,11%. The bonus has vanished from the wheel. Follow the game and look how it avoids it.

That's just a cold streak though, it doesn't mean any foul play is at hand. We've been down this road haven't we!
Unlikely doesn't mean impossible, or that something is going on that shouldn't be.

Just like when CT has hit three times in a row. 64x64x64 is a one in 262,144 chance! Incredibly unlikely! Far more unlikely than 0.11%, at 0.0003814697265625%, if we're being precise.

 

[Stevej]

On a side note, that is interesting. If it works well, you could easily monetize that baby, or sell it to an existing casino tracker website. Kudos!

Hmm. I have to think about it.  If you have any tips for that, dm me.

Santa forgot about me again Stevie! Maybe next year! 
I hope he left you something nice under the tree.

That's just a cold streak though, it doesn't mean any foul play is at hand. We've been down this road haven't we!
Unlikely doesn't mean impossible, or that something is going on that shouldn't be.

Just like when CT has hit three times in a row. 64x64x64 is a one in 262,144 chance! Incredibly unlikely! Far more unlikely than 0.11%, at 0.0003814697265625%, if we're being precise.

Actually it's 54x54x54.

 

[joshnadin]

Actually it's 54x54x54.

It's getting late. My bad. 

54x54x54 is apparently a 1/157,464 chance. Or, 0.00063506579281614% - quite a difference! 

Hmm. I have to think about it.  If you have any tips for that, dm me.

I might know a guy, that knows a guy.. for a 5% stake, we can talk when we see what it looks like 

 

[Davidr1978]

@Joshnadin.  Maybe you should read my comment more carefully before replying. I never once stated that players should know the multiplier wheel outcome before placing their bets lol. My point is there is a certain amount of time the multiplier wheel gets after the host spins the wheel, enough for software to predict the outcome, this is bang out of order. The multiplier wheel result should be known the split second the host takes his hands off the wheel and not 3-5 secs after.

 

[Ash W]

I think the post is starting to derail. Gambling has always involved the house having an edge. Players are always encouraged to bet what money they can already afford to consider lost.

I am sorry to hear the OP having lost in this situation - I too have suffered losses in gambling (See various responsible gaming posts - Im not exactly "clean"). Streams are entertainment they should not replicate or influence a players level of gambling or betting. You should always be betting within your means and if you do lose stop when enough is enough.  

Remember gamble what you can afford to already consider being lost. Gambling can be dangerous and can lead to severe financial problems if left to run out of control. Set the limits or set exclusions  

When the fun stops...Stop!! Biggest lesson from starting gambling to my current situation now 

 

[dirtystack]

Goodbye.

 

[chrjrgensen]

I can't even comprehend the sheer stupidity, the lag of logical thinking and the usage of the victim card in this topic.

Nevertheless, i respect your decision to leave gambling based on your believes.

After all, going from 25$ to 1250$ to 0$ sounds like your gambling happits are pretty destructive, so i'm happy for your decision 

Best of luck

 

[asmeister]

Well I understand a lot about being pissed off since I've been there but the lack of a motive really disturbs me. 

Since everything is rigged how did you go from 25 to 1250? Did the casino demon decide it'd be a hilarious idea to let you run up to 1250 and then steal it from you, for an actual 25 profit that could have been stolen from you from the beginning? 

It's really puzzling

 

[dirtystack]

Edit: Epiiic. 360 from CT bonus. The odds 0,11%. The bonus has vanished from the wheel. Follow the game and look how it avoids it.

Can you show your working please.

 

[Hoody]

I feel your pain however blaming others for your gambling issues is the first sign you need help. You've made the right first move by stepping away from forums, YouTube etc and I hope things work out for you in the future. 

 

[alex101010]

Are you really quoting a video that’s a restoration of a 1920’s roulette table that was used in some back room gambling den in the U.S. as some kind of validation for your previous comments?

Come on man.

An ancient dodgy roulette table that was used in an era where gambling wasn’t even legal, and definitely not regulated, is a whole different story than saying regulated and licensed providers manipulate results.

LOL