Monopoly lowered the RTP

[dirtystack]

The balls used in EG wheels are made of teflon because they seem flat white, while ivory balls tend to be more yellowish, but still it could be ivory too

So here we go, in one sentence you state like it is a fact that the balls are teflon, then you go on to say, but it could be ivory too. Do you not understand how stupid this makes you look. You are stating that something is a fact, then going on to say it could be something else, not the fact you have initially stated it to be.

How can you not understand how dumb this is?

Like saying the earth is round, its obvious, but it could be flat too.

Now, I've been working in casinos for 20 years and seen all kinds balls, various wheel by different manufacturers, seen all kinds of weird, seen the ball bounce out the wheel and roll around the rim and fall back into the wheel. Weird shit is a daily occurrence when dealing with physics and randomness.

Now all you need to do to provide any validity to anything you have said is to provide the game history or some proof that you made a complaint about the 9600x monopoly round. I notice you haven't provided this. I suggest it is because you are a liar, now the problem with lying is that when one little lie gets exposed it completely invalidates everything you have said because, you guessed it, you have shown to be dishonest - how can anyone trust what you say when you have been shown to lie to try to make a point.

It is people like you who cloud the issue, dilute any legitimate observations and claims with endless rubbish lies. You get in the way of clarity by fabricating bullshit and discrediting everyone who might have legitimate claims.

 

[dirtystack]

Now about the monopoly, unfortunately I don't have the screenshots for it because at first I thought it was my internet, but after I checked it working fine and also other players had the same issue, I knew it was of their making. I can't report it to any authorities here because I was playing on an unlicensed casino (Roobet), and no spanish casino offers these game shows because the DGOJ refused to grant them the license to do so. Guess why

Isn't that convenient. Casino without a licence or game history, got it. Did that seem reasonable when you were writing it, believable?

One of the traits of low functioning psychopaths is that they are unable to comprehend that others might not believe their lies, this is because in their minds they are always right and everyone else is wrong - therefore the mere fact that they are saying something means that it is correct - and thus, other people will believe it.

Get help.

 

[TheCasinoGuy]

So here we go, in one sentence you state like it is a fact that the balls are teflon, then you go on to say, but it could be ivory too. Do you not understand how stupid this makes you look. You are stating that something is a fact, then going on to say it could be something else, not the fact you have initially stated it to be.

How can you not understand how dumb this is?

Like saying the earth is round, its obvious, but it could be flat too.

Now, I've been working in casinos for 20 years and seen all kinds balls, various wheel by different manufacturers, seen all kinds of weird, seen the ball bounce out the wheel and roll around the rim and fall back into the wheel. Weird shit is a daily occurrence when dealing with physics and randomness.

Now all you need to do to provide any validity to anything you have said is to provide the game history or some proof that you made a complaint about the 9600x monopoly round. I notice you haven't provided this. I suggest it is because you are a liar, now the problem with lying is that when one little lie gets exposed it completely invalidates everything you have said because, you guessed it, you have shown to be dishonest - how can anyone trust what you say when you have been shown to lie to try to make a point.

It is people like you who cloud the issue, dilute any legitimate observations and claims with endless rubbish lies. You get in the way of clarity by fabricating bullshit and discrediting everyone who might have legitimate claims.

At this point I think you're just trolling or you're on their payroll. 

You comparison made no sense because what I assumed was 80% correct and probably 20% wrong. White balls are usually made of teflon and ivory balls are yellowish. You always miss the whole point. The point here is not what material the ball is made of because the difference between the two is VERY small and YOU as you claim to have worked for 20 years in casinos SHOULD know all that right? Who's lying now?

And again you're doing what slotspinner did, he asked a guy, and you SAW whatever. SHOW ME what you saw, any video anything in a licensed casino? (Now don't show me some clip from an underground casino in china town ) and I'm betting you 1000 euros right now to do that. I go to landbased casinos more than 10 times a month for YEARS and yes I have entry tickets if you yet wanna call me a liar on that aswel, and I have NEVER seen such movements and I play for HOURS.

You're accusing me again of lying while I've been truthful and backing up my claims with proves, unlike you. You're asking for proof that I cannot provide because:

1. I cannot report the incident because I wasn't even playing on a licensed casino.

2. If you mean the live support, I didn't even speak to the support, and even if I did there is no way to show a chat log that dates 4 month

s ago. Technically impossible

3. I'm not the only one that had this issue, I'm sure there are many topics out there started by players who were playing at that time and had similar issue. Or maybe we're all liars

Isn't that convenient. Casino without a licence or game history, got it. Did that seem reasonable when you were writing it, believable?

One of the traits of low functioning psychopaths is that they are unable to comprehend that others might not believe their lies, this is because in their minds they are always right and everyone else is wrong - therefore the mere fact that they are saying something means that it is correct - and thus, other people will believe it.

Get help.

Actually it is very unconvenient for me, because it gave you a reason to clinge to your hopes of exposing me lmao I wish I had the proof for that to show it and I wonder what your troll excuse will be by then. 

Now back to the topic, explain to me how did the ball land INSIDE the pocket on number 5 without hitting the metalic side and it jumped back to number 8? You don't seem to understand the difference between a bounce and vibration depsite your "20 years in casinos". When it landed on number 5 it was still BOUNCING inside the pocket, and out of a sudden it VIBRATES out and goes to number 8. Physically IMPOSSIBLE

Another thing, the balls were spinning from right to left, and number 8 is right off number 5, explain to me physically how can a ball spin from right to left and after settling in a pocket it goes the opposite directions from its spin? Take your time I'll wait.

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[dirtystack]

You comparison made no sense because what I assumed was 80% correct and probably 20% wrong. White balls are usually made of teflon and ivory balls are yellowish. You always miss the whole point. The point here is not what material the ball is made of because the difference between the two is VERY small and YOU as you claim to have worked for 20 years in casinos SHOULD know all that right? Who's lying now?

You are, the difference between ivory and teflon is night and day, not to mention that there is also 2 standard sizes for each, a large and a small which changes the characteristics of each drastically, there is also polyflurotetraethelyne balls which feel a little velvety and behave completely different from the other two. Wheels are not all alike either, even from the same manufacturer - there are shallow ones, steep ones, ones with higher pointed dividers, ones with shallow pockets, some with grooves instead of dividers.

1. I cannot report the incident because I wasn't even playing on a licensed casino.

2. If you mean the live support, I didn't even speak to the support, and even if I did there is no way to show a chat log that dates 4 month

s ago. Technically impossible

3. I'm not the only one that had this issue, I'm sure there are many topics out there started by players who were playing at that time and had similar issue. Or maybe we're all liars

Go look at your game history, wtf. Don't know how to track you game history via the online casino yet you are an expert an analysing videos online, hmm, adds up.

Now back to the topic, explain to me how did the ball land INSIDE the pocket on number 5 without hitting the metalic side and it jumped back to number 8? You don't seem to understand the difference between a bounce and vibration depsite your "20 years in casinos". When it landed on number 5 it was still BOUNCING inside the pocket, and out of a sudden it VIBRATES out and goes to number 8. Physically IMPOSSIBLE

It not impossible and it happens all the times, there is all kinds of physics and spin affecting the ball and it just show you have no understanding of spin, momentum or indeed anything whatsoever.

You have zero understanding as to what is possible or impossible., it is quite saddening.- ignoring the fact you are using a spin which resulted in a win to prove that the casino is rigging the games.... how retarded can you be. Releasing the win to get Letsgiveitaspin's viewers hooked lol... wtf

I bet you watch immersive roulette and think to yourself, hmmmmn, looks to me like they are slowing down time to manipulate the winning number.

It happens day in and day out in casinos. You only notice it when it suits your agenda.

I'm done here.

 

[TheCasinoGuy]

You are, the difference between ivory and teflon is night and day, not to mention that there is also 2 standard sizes for each, a large and a small which changes the characteristics of each drastically, there is also polyflurotetraethelyne balls which feel a little velvety and behave completely different from the other two. Wheels are not all alike either, even from the same manufacturer - there are shallow ones, steep ones, ones with higher pointed dividers, ones with shallow pockets, some with grooves instead of dividers.

Again you missed what I said, in my previous replies I mentioned SAME manufacturer, SAME wheel model with the balls size of course, and it never happened in landbased only in evolution gaming

More proof? There is another provider called Playtech, they also offer live casino games here in Spain and they use the same wheels as EG, but because the studio is based HERE in Spain, I have never noticed these movements hmmmmm weird it only happens with Evo 

Go look at your game history, wtf. Don't know how to track you game history via the online casino yet you are an expert an analysing videos online, hmm, adds up.

It not impossible and it happens all the times, there is all kinds of physics and spin affecting the ball and it just show you have no understanding of spin, momentum or indeed anything whatsoever.

You have zero understanding as to what is possible or impossible., it is quite saddening.- ignoring the fact you are using a spin which resulted in a win to prove that the casino is rigging the games.... how retarded can you be. Releasing the win to get Letsgiveitaspin's viewers hooked lol... wtf

It happens day in and day out in casinos. You only notice it when it suits your agenda.

 Person 1: Look it's a cow, it's flying in the sky.

Person 2 (Grabs camera and films it): No, look I zoomed it, it's just a bird.

Person 1: NO THAT IS A COW.

Person 2: Look again, it's just a bird it's smaller than a cow and it has wings, cows don't have wings.

Person 1: WHAT? NO! THAT IS A COW FLYING IN THE SKY.

This summerizes it pretty much  

Read my previous replies to understand what I mean by rigging games. It doesn't always have to be to make the players lose but also to release big wins, because after all they have to pay back some of the money they collected otherwise there will be none to play. And kim has nothing to do with it and they didn't do it to hook his viewers, I doubt they even watch the stream

You refuse to accept the truth even when it's presented infront of you, you are always correct because you worked in a casino for 20 years even though you say it's possible and you have NO EXPLANATION to it NOTHING NONE ZERO.

Get help mate, or at least ask them for a raise, you're trying way too hard on their behalf.

 

[dirtystack]

Quite tragic really.

 

[TheCasinoGuy]

Quite tragic really.

Agreed. We should stop it here.

If anyone else have other opinions and willing to back them with logical explanations and actual proof instead of throwing accusations and trolling, I'll be glad to have a conversation.

 

[dirtystack]

3. I'm not the only one that had this issue, I'm sure there are many topics out there started by players who were playing at that time and had similar issue. Or maybe we're all liars

this is the problem with the way you think. You are sure of it, so it must be correct, and you use this to validate what you are saying.

If there are many topics out there about it, why don't you go and find 1, just 1 topic about this 9600x win which has any proof that a bet was rejected, actual proof, hand history, any evidence of communication between the player and the live help, anything real. anything that has an actual proof.

 

[Slotspinner]

Maybe you guys have some casino business running or Evolution stocks etc, because that's the only reason to say these roulette videos are not real visual proof... Everybody can see these videos are real and these games rigged.

i have zero evo stocks, and i lost quite alot of money to evolution live games in life. If they are actually rigged, please expose it and get me my money back, but you cant cause theyre NOT rigged. The Visual Proof is no proof, is just lack of investigating the spin and lack of experience from guys like TheCasinoGuy, who guaranteed fist in flames has not even 1% of the experience that some people in Vegas have (same people that have been questioned for some of the videos i sent over)

 

[Stevej]

i have zero evo stocks, and i lost quite alot of money to evolution live games in life. If they are actually rigged, please expose it and get me my money back, but you cant cause theyre NOT rigged. The Visual Proof is no proof, is just lack of investigating the spin and lack of experience from guys like TheCasinoGuy, who guaranteed fist in flames has not even 1% of the experience that some people in Vegas have (same people that have been questioned for some of the videos i sent over)

Even if I brought that Monopoly wheel to your home, you wouldn't believe.

I would be really interested to see more videos & talk more about this. Is there any insider who could bring some photos from the Latvian studios?  What's behind the wheel? Motor?

 

[kenanth]

100% rigged, have had some questionable spins over the years. Stopped playing Evolution long time ago when i ripped 70K€ in one session, you would think that betting on 6 numbers 20 times would come in sooner or later, but not with Evolution. They do some wierd stuff with the ball and the casino reels, dont know if it is magnets or other air pressure thing, but a ball should't move out of its pocket when it has no velocety or speed left in it, but out of nowhere it gets the speed an runs out and lands 2-3 numbers pockets out.. Sure does not happen when its a small bet or when over 400 people are betting on the same roulette table. This happens mostly when its under 150 players on the table and you bet big (>1000€ spins).

I see a lot of people here that is actually defending Evo and the casinos, well that happens when you mess with peoples livelihood of getting their money. Think about that.

Watch this please and stop betting unnecessary, you would always lose. Dont be a fool and think that you have won if it lands a couple of times, thats how they role you in.

0,0000000275% chance of this happening:

 

[dirtystack]

Even if I would bring that Monopoly wheel to your home, you wouldn't believe.

And if the wheel was brought to your house? what? you would believe it isn't rigged if it wasn't rigged but you would believe it is rigged if it was rigged?

What kind of comment is this.

You are making out like you have the wheel at your house and have hands on knowledge as to how it is rigged.

@kenanth The odds of missing a 1 in 6 shot in 20 tries is not some big irregularity. It sucks that it happens when you happen to be betting large, but that's gambling.

 

[Stevej]

8 minutes ago, kenanth said:

100% rigged, have had some questionable spins over the years. Stopped playing Evolution long time ago when i ripped 70K€ in one session, you would think that betting on 6 numbers 20 times would come in sooner or later, but not with Evolution. They do some wierd stuff with the ball and the casino reels, dont know if it is magnets or other air pressure thing, but a ball should't move out of its pocket when it has no velocety or speed left in it, but out of nowhere it gets the speed an runs out and lands 2-3 numbers pockets out.. Sure does not happen when its a small bet or when over 400 people are betting on the same roulette table. This happens mostly when its under 150 players on the table and you bet big (>1000€ spins).

I see a lot of people here that is actually defending Evo and the casinos, well that happens when you mess with peoples livelihood of getting their money. Think about that.

Watch this please and stop betting unnecessary, you would always lose. Dont be a fool and think that you have won if it lands a couple of times, thats how they role you in.

0,0000000275% chance of this happening:

Thanks for sharing these! This is a little bit the same thing I tried explain earlier with Super Sic Bo. Hitting Triples chance is 1/36 but somehow they have a system that doesn't allow it to appear if they have fooled you in. They do like 400 throws without triples and everybody lose all the money.

 

[dirtystack]

On the 5th of May early 2000's the only guy at my table was there on his birthday, he play only 5 neighbours by 20, the first spin was a 5, the following 4 spins were 5 and he played 20 neighbours by 20 each time, he never removed his bet.. On the 5th of the 5th I spun 5 5's in a row and made someone very happy. 

Now, if you look backwards, after it has happened and calculated the odds of it happening then you would conclude that it was impossible. Around 25 billion to one chance of spinning 5 5s in a row on the 5th of the 5th, that's before you factor in there odds of some random guy been there who just so happens to have been born that day. The universe is fucking rigged would be your conclusion.

 

[damson95]

Keep playing evolution games guys, 



Keep playing evolution games guys, 

 

[TheCasinoGuy]

i have zero evo stocks, and i lost quite alot of money to evolution live games in life. If they are actually rigged, please expose it and get me my money back, but you cant cause theyre NOT rigged. The Visual Proof is no proof, is just lack of investigating the spin and lack of experience from guys like TheCasinoGuy, who guaranteed fist in flames has not even 1% of the experience that some people in Vegas have (same people that have been questioned for some of the videos i sent over)

Not bragging here, but those people you're talking about, I could give them a lesson about gambling. This is my stats from 01/01/2020 on my main casino (Pokerstars) and my main sport bets (Bet365). I play on other casinos aswel just not frequently and on landbased too. Over €10 million euros wagered and about €300k up.

You just denying facts and visual proof infront of you, without any explanation whatsoever. But because a random guy in vegas said it's not rigged, AMEN to that I believe it with my eyes closed. Come on, I refuse that you are this stupid slotspinner!! It's right infront of your eyes, the ball doing acrobatics is NOT a normal or a natural thing, if so then please, you or your friends do explain it. 

100% rigged, have had some questionable spins over the years. Stopped playing Evolution long time ago when i ripped 70K€ in one session, you would think that betting on 6 numbers 20 times would come in sooner or later, but not with Evolution. They do some wierd stuff with the ball and the casino reels, dont know if it is magnets or other air pressure thing, but a ball should't move out of its pocket when it has no velocety or speed left in it, but out of nowhere it gets the speed an runs out and lands 2-3 numbers pockets out.. Sure does not happen when its a small bet or when over 400 people are betting on the same roulette table. This happens mostly when its under 150 players on the table and you bet big (>1000€ spins).

I see a lot of people here that is actually defending Evo and the casinos, well that happens when you mess with peoples livelihood of getting their money. Think about that.

Watch this please and stop betting unnecessary, you would always lose. Dont be a fool and think that you have won if it lands a couple of times, thats how they role you in.

0,0000000275% chance of this happening:

And this (forward to around 1:36)

Trust me you will just waste your time trying to convince them here. However, the lightning roulette is different than the others, like regular roulette, double ball.. etc Because it's an auto roulette. And regulations does not consider it as a roulette wheel but rather as an EGM (Electronic Gaming Machine), so normal roulette rules do not apply. The magnet action there is completely unfair for the players but legal. Sad but true.

Check my replies on page 3 of this topic, where I accidently bet huge on all numbers minus number 17, and also other videos I took myself with NOVOMATIC auto roulette.

 

[Stevej]

I think it's really good that you guys share all your experiences, proofs, videos here. It's really interesting. This helps lots of people not to gamble in this scam provider. I haven't seen any of these videos you have shared before.

 

[dirtystack]

comical lol

 

[TheCasinoGuy]

comical lol

This is the typic behaviour of someone who refuses to learn, admit that they're wrong or have no explanations.

"I will just laugh at you guys because I'm on another level than you, you ignorants, I'm always right and you are wrong"

You probably don't even gamble, or when you do, you deposit 10 pounds and grind it.

 

[dirtystack]

@TheCasinoGuy What are these account statements supposed to prove?

You played big and won? you have a lot of money so people should listen to you? what?

Did they rigg it and "release the wins" for you?

You, with your knowledge managed to win despite them rigging it?

What goes on in that head?