Lightning Roulette, yeah keep playing it
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joshnadin
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Time will surely tell..
For sure! Pragmatic currently have a long way to go but could certainly become a serious competitor in the Live Casino section.
I think they key for them will be to hire some super creative game designers, to come up with a unique game that isn't just a rip off of an existing one, making it super volatile, and marketing it properly. They'll have to chuck millions into it, but they could do it with the right people.
Don't even get me started
I honestly even tried to consider what on Earth lead him to having that thought process, but I was losing brain cells rapidly, and gave up.
joshnadin
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The 'so called' industry huh..Jeroen83 said:
Let me know when you find those people in the industry that have zero to no understanding of how online works!
As for me, I've worked in land based casinos for many years, and also worked with some of the most popular online casinos and game providers on a freelance and consultant basis. Perhaps even the ones being mentioned in this topic!
But hey, what do I know. Right?
'Evidence'? Okayyyyyyyy...Jeroen83 said:
Well, duh? You are stating the extremely obvious. I don't see what this point is adding to the conversation. Casinos both land based and online are extremely transparent that the odds are not in your favour when playing.Jeroen83 said:
Yes they do! Again, you're stating the obvious.Jeroen83 said:
So does McDonalds. What point are you getting at?
Jesus Christ
Are you really going to sit here and spew off nonsense about players spunking off money when you're literally advertising affiliate links to unregulated crypto casinos that specifically exploit problem gamblers on the same forum?
Get outta' here man. I don't even want to entertain you.
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joshnadin
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I can assure you, I am neither 'jalous', or jealous.Jeroen83 said:
What are people meant to be jealous of Jeroen? The trashy bits of JavaScript that someone on Fiverr could design better for $5?
Or the few bucks in affiliate commission you generate from trying to exploit gamblers into signing up to the one and only unregulated, shady, casino you're promoting?
As for the transparency of your website, it's clear to anyone who clicks on the link and visit's the website what transparency there is, or in your case, lack thereof.
I've also bothered with the in-depth subject that's going on too. I'd like to think I've added some valuable points to the discussion using some logic, professional experience, industry knowledge, and facts that are available for anyone on the internet to be able to verify.Jeroen83 said:
I don't quite know what 'zero ranted' facts are..
CasinoGrounds might not be for you though man. Here, we don't like those parasitic streamers like the joke that 'Ayzee' you're affiliating with.
We don't particularly like unregulated, crypto casinos with worthless licences that pray on problematic gamblers, and the people that especially promote and benefit from them.
I wouldn't have even brought up your choice to participate in your crypto casino affiliation or whatever your website is supposed to be, but when you're here talking about 'no one giving a shit other than the returning players spunking their money' in the same breath.
C'mon man. Don't throw stones when you live in glass houses. The pot calling the kettle black. Take your pick of idiom that is relevant to the situation..
Y’all have too much fate in people. The truth is, no one knows the real truth. What makes people trust MGA so much? Even the police in Malta is full of corruption, so what makes gamblingcompanies legit? CEO’s of gamblingcompanies make millions a year, and that’s what everyone wants. Money, money, money. The more the better, the quicker the better. So don’t have too much fait in online gambling, if they find a way to cheat in a way nobody will find out, they will.
dirtystack
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But at least @dirtystack has showed his skills when counting to 100 referring to one old post…
Just refer to any of your posts and you'll find such gems as:
It absolutely has been proven that it works this way beyond a doubt, at least I think so, I believe it must work this way, but maybe it doesn't, but I think it must so that is proof enough for me.
You said about crazy time after explaining how it works(in your head):
It obviously works on some RTP based type thing...
You can refute that you said such things if you like, prone to lies and wild exaggerations as you are.
Your "personal opinion" is not "research" you plum.
@Jeroen83
you moan that it is all rigged and inform people in a way that implies you have some inside knowledge about how slots work, - including that ridiculous theory stated as fact about how casinos are coded to return a percentage of deposits to the player. You then go on to win 135k and shortly after you are to be found in another post using the fact that you just won 135k as a counterargument to someone who made a post about how it is all rigged... literally within the same week.
Constantly calling everyone else integrity into question as you are the only one with any integrity - bemoan how everyone is exploiting everyone else, except you - you are different.
People need to wake up and realise their whole world fucking view is dependant on whether or not they are running hot or cold.
@Stevej you only get one use of your little shutdown referencing my past, singular, mistake. There are hundreds of posts you have made which are absolute gibberish, I'll copy paste a Stevej gibberish compendium together when I get time.
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Stevej
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Instead of writing these ”you’re asshole, idiot, everything you write makes no sense” let’s keep the focus on this topic.
Yes of course, the game works certain way in my head and it works certain way in your head. Everything I write here is my personal opinion. Always. I can say CT has a motor, roulette has magnets and everyone but you realizes it’s my opinion, not the scientific fact. But just keep on playing live casino. I know many of us has already stopped playing.
Does anyone know the weight of that roulette ball?
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joshnadin
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It's actually very easy to avoid the parasitic ones, specifically like the only one you promote.Jeroen83 said:
But you are exclusively promoting one shitty crypto casino.Jeroen83 said:
I don't care what you want to do with your money. It's your money.
They very well likely do pay out. All of the crypto casinos pretty much do. That doesn't mean that you're not a piece of shit for coming onto a platform pushing affiliate links. I don't need to go into detail as to why the promotion of these sites is disgusting. The conversation has been had enough times by now.
As said, if you bothered to read my post. It is very relevant to the discussion when you want to talk about a casino exhibiting a specific negative behaviour towards their customer base, yet you're affiliating the worst kind of casino to people, for the reasons we all know.Jeroen83 said:
You can't tell me to stay on topic, when you bring up the topic, and exhibit behaviour that directly contradicts the point you're trying to make.
This is coming from the person who states that 'land based casino games have no RTP'Kreezymind said:You sound as retarted as our card dealing expert or wait no consultant, oh no, audit expert, ah never mind
That is honestly the most stupid thing I've heard all year. You're in no position to say that anything sounds retarded for the rest of your life.
Sure, as stated. I started out as a croupier.
I now consult to a number of different online casinos and game providers on everything from game design, player retention, market trends, compliance (including audits), and everything in-between.
But, I don't see the point you're making. If you're trying to question my credentials, you're welcome to some kind evidence. After all, I wouldn't believe some guy on the internet on any topic without some kind of proof. But, at least I clearly know what I'm talking about mate.
dirtystack
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I’ve been play 6 to 11 roulette tables at once for a minimum 16 hours per day. Betting £1.30 per spins.
Using the most previous week as an example, averaging 600 spins per hour and using the 1 hour reality check - which states total bets placed, total bets lost net position - my expected cost per hour is an average of £16. The real cost per hour ranged from the extreme of -£110 per hour to +£48 per hour.
The maximum I expected to lose per week, based on the RTP and at 16 hours of play a day was +\- £1800
I have been doing this since June as I’ve been playing the weekly pragmatic play live roulette tournaments. I would do it until I was comfortably in the top 5 positions and sure my score would hold up. prize structure:
1st £5k
2nd £3k
3rd - 5th £2k
4th - 10th £1k
A couple of times, if several people got an initial massive lead I’d settle for a 4th - 10th position and scale back the cost by playing less.
every week cost between £500-£1800 depending what position I went for.
Every week I plays 30 000 to 60 000 spins.
Every week I came 2nd - 5th unless a few players got stupidly lucky at the start in which case I scaled things back and settled for £1k prize. The only week I didn’t make £500-£2000 profit was during responsible gambling week as one casino enforced a year self exclusion on me , mid tournament, and sent me a load of emails informing me that I have a gambling problem.
The thing is, I’m not gambling, I can calculate the cost of my adventures beforehand and only participate if I know, based on the maths, that it will be profitable.
Deapite good and bad runs - nothing deviated from the expected norms.
It may seem like a lot of effort but all I need to do is to refresh the auto play on the roulette games every hour - No effort or focus at all.
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Stevej
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If we think about the physics of the wheel, it is million times more likely that the ball gets stuck between the numbers because some (magnetic) force is pushing it compared to the pure rotation force situation.
But you think it’s still the rotation force and lack of gravity in the closed Latvian studio?
But you think it’s still the rotation force and lack of gravity in the closed Latvian studio?
dirtystack
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Just to add to the above - starting this week with Pragmatics live casino drops and win promotion they have drastically reduced the prices ( they’ve split the prize pool in half basically and added the other half as prize drops) so it is not worth doing unless you play 24 hours a day as many tables as possible and go for 1st or 2nd position.
I can’t compete for first because there are people more hardcore then me - I never came first since June- always 2nd-10th using my judgement as to what position to push for and remain profitable.
What understanding of physics do you have?
I can’t compete for first because there are people more hardcore then me - I never came first since June- always 2nd-10th using my judgement as to what position to push for and remain profitable.
But what do you know about physics to aid you in this thinking of physics????
What understanding of physics do you have?
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damnyouwagering
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Imglad I stay away from roulette tbh, its called the devils table 666!!
joshnadin
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Go and hire a physicist and give them an unlimited budget, and get them to try and recreate what happened by designing a roulette wheel with magnets, or whatever other technology you want to incorporate. They will tell you it's practically impossible, and you're more likely to recreate the exact same event quicker by spinning the ball as many times as you can until the same thing inevitably happens again by chance.
Even after months of trail and error trying to recreate what happened, I can assure you that the same wheel designed with magnets or other result altering technology would not operate naturally on a spin-by-spin basis, and it would be extremely noticeable in the way the ball drops and is guided to a specific number on the wheel.
But again, we're missing the most important point here, that game providers do not need to rig their games, and it would actually not be beneficial to them, nor the casinos.
We've already established that the game provider does not pay out or take the money from the game result. It's the online casino. I've explained why this would not be sustainable. Myself and others have applied lots of logic as to why this simply wouldn't happen.
Yet, you're still here screaming:
Stevej
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I knew that the conversation goes to this meme level at some point.
Good luck with the games!
dirtystack
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Oh SteveJ, I shouldn't do this but, well, here we go, you have become meme. You are now immortal.
Whenever anyone sees the following meme, they will understand the meaning:
That is what people will understand when they see the following meme, an image so beautiful in its simplicity.
Here it is, created with a love that will persist long after inflation renders the current understanding of physics redundant.
Behold:
Whenever anyone sees the following meme, they will understand the meaning:
That is what people will understand when they see the following meme, an image so beautiful in its simplicity.
Here it is, created with a love that will persist long after inflation renders the current understanding of physics redundant.
Behold:
joshnadin
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Once again, I don't care what you do with your own time, your own money, and your own website.Jeroen83 said:
You're on this forum promoting it. That's the problem.
The problem isn't the payment method being crypto. It's the fact that it's shady as fuck, unregulated, and should be avoided at all costs. No one ever said that crypto is an issue. I'd be happy for more mainstream, regulated and legit casinos to start accepting crypto.
I just made an account using a VPN from the UK, they gladly accepted me as a player. People with gambling issues that have signed up for such services as GamStop can circumvent those restrictions by doing the same thing. Yes, they're adults making their own choices, but you're facilitating that, and benefiting from that. That makes you trash by coming to a platform and advertising it knowing fully well you'll target those people on here.
People can sign up via your affiliate link that don't have gambling issues, get absolutely ripped off and have zero recourse as the casino is completely unregulated. But, you don't tell them that do you?
There are numerous ethical issues of you promoting that casino on this platform.
I must stress though, no one including me gives a fuck what you do or don't do with your own money and time, because I've had to clarify that to you twice now.
Who said you're sponsored or funded? I didn't. No one else did. I don't care.Jeroen83 said:
It's not relevant. You seem to be going off on your own tangent.
joshnadin
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How else would you like me to clarify what I'm saying any further without literally spelling it out for you? Because the common sense approach clearly didn't work, did it?Jeroen83 said:
Evolution do not own the patents for the auto-roulette wheel that they use. They pay another company to make the wheel for them.
The patent for all variations of Auto Roulette using pressurised air to operate is owned by - https://www.cammegh.com/
You can find the details of what that patent consists of here - https://patents.google.com/patent/EP1613405B1/en
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