Evolution Gaming - against the odds
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Stevej
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Again this @dirtystack idiot joining here to spam without any real clever comments.
I think it's quite interesting topic, and most of us are probably the A-class customers for casinos. I'd like to hear some comments from @Evolution Gaming Official. They haven't commented anything here. Could they tell more details about these wheel games, how they work etc? When is the open doors -day in Latvian studio?
I think it's quite interesting topic, and most of us are probably the A-class customers for casinos. I'd like to hear some comments from @Evolution Gaming Official. They haven't commented anything here. Could they tell more details about these wheel games, how they work etc? When is the open doors -day in Latvian studio?
It,'s just another conspiracy that doesnt make sense.
To many people would have to be involved and to many multibillion companies will fail if just one of those people talked.
Stevej
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Think about Putin's palace. Many many years they built a fucking massive palace somewhere and it was kept quiet from the rest of the world until one guy revealed it. How is it possible?
I've said this before but I think they're not doing anything illegal, but the game is rigged in terms that the wheel is not working as people expects. It's not freely spinning wheel. Gambling laws allow to create these kind of games. If they could prove that I'm wrong, that would be fine as well, and I might consider playing these games again. But I'm sure they won't.
Until that I can simulate i.e. millions of spins with a little javascript code like this one I made http://crazyrng.infinityfreeapp.com/ and trust these results.
Same thing again today. A strong Pachinco bonus streak during the quiet hours in the morning time, and also another time reference from the evening hours today. Check it yourself. This is happening literally every day.
They don't care who wins and when or how much, but that technique brings most of the money to them.
They don't care who wins and when or how much, but that technique brings most of the money to them.
FckrTardio
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perkele, i should give up vodka and have whatever you have because your tinfoil hat is more shiny than the fake sun in ad astra, interstellar, life, stowaway, gravity and 2001 space oddyset combined. what they have in common, sataana? sci fi. and much tinfoil. btw u cant simulate shit because ur java sucks.
ok, u are saying wheel is not working as expected. heres news for you, steve. it is a gambling game. you are expected to loss. if u cant handle loss u should go to sauna and chill. and evolution will not touch comments in this forum thread with a stick even. because it is ecco chamber for the aluminum foil producers.
and in russia mate. anything possible. its putin. but u dont live close to russia border so i know you know nothing what russia know
dirtystack
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dirtystack
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Was trying to post on my phone and uploaded the wrong picture then proceeded to quote myself when trying to fix it. Had to delete: same post is below.
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dirtystack
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@Stevejyou often use the argument that it is so statistically improbable to go 450+ spins without a crazytime that it must be rigged - usually accompanied by some faulty maths. It took a couple of minutes, wasn’t clicking fast as I was scanning for crazytime, to get this:
That represents 592 spins since the last Crazytime. I had stopped there as I thought it was enough to make my point. As I was making this posts I remembered I still hadn’t hit a Crazytime - so I went back and did another spin - that is why the time is 10 minutes later in the next picture here:
That’s another 199 spins before the next Crazytime - that takes us to 791 spins between crazy times in this little programme that you “trust”
If this happened in the actual game you would be using it as proof that it is rigged.
There is a lesson in all of this about confirmation bias and only interpreting the stats you want to see. This post is a direct contradiction to the belief you have that you are in anyway capable of analysing anything and coming to any kind of reasonable conclusion.
You ain’t.
That represents 592 spins since the last Crazytime. I had stopped there as I thought it was enough to make my point. As I was making this posts I remembered I still hadn’t hit a Crazytime - so I went back and did another spin - that is why the time is 10 minutes later in the next picture here:
That’s another 199 spins before the next Crazytime - that takes us to 791 spins between crazy times in this little programme that you “trust”
If this happened in the actual game you would be using it as proof that it is rigged.
There is a lesson in all of this about confirmation bias and only interpreting the stats you want to see. This post is a direct contradiction to the belief you have that you are in anyway capable of analysing anything and coming to any kind of reasonable conclusion.
You ain’t.
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Stevej
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@dirtystack Okey nice. Put some lottery on...
I actually ran few rng’s today. Crazy Time has been spinning about 400k spins so far like someone mentioned. Over 300 spins between CTs happen approximately 30 times in those spins. There usually one-two over 400, and might get one over 500 but it’s really rare. Over 500 doesn’t happen every year.
Try it here. Click run on the upper left corner. Console on the right bottom corner shows the spin counts that go over 300 (you have to open the console to see the results). It's set for 400k wheel spins.
So with one click you simulate 400k spins (10-11months of the game play).
https://jsfiddle.net/hocw4x16/
Currently I'm watching the streamer playing on Crazy Time. It has again 244 spins between ct bonuses. Let's see where it goes. I don't still think it's an analog wheel.
I actually ran few rng’s today. Crazy Time has been spinning about 400k spins so far like someone mentioned. Over 300 spins between CTs happen approximately 30 times in those spins. There usually one-two over 400, and might get one over 500 but it’s really rare. Over 500 doesn’t happen every year.
Try it here. Click run on the upper left corner. Console on the right bottom corner shows the spin counts that go over 300 (you have to open the console to see the results). It's set for 400k wheel spins.
So with one click you simulate 400k spins (10-11months of the game play).
https://jsfiddle.net/hocw4x16/
Currently I'm watching the streamer playing on Crazy Time. It has again 244 spins between ct bonuses. Let's see where it goes. I don't still think it's an analog wheel.
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The Macho Man
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Im not saying my results are proof of anything just mentioning my success with what I believe is happening.
And I never mentioned they are cheating. I just think the top slot is controlled and they can control when big payouts happen like a slot machine.
dirtystack
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This happens often in http://crazyrng.infinityfreeapp.com/
Use your own app in the same kind of manner in which you address the actual games results. It happens often that you have 1.5-2+ screens of results(200 spin per screen) without a crazytime.
255spins between first and second crazytime, and no crazytime in the 365 spins after the last one, I didn't keep going.
With https://jsfiddle.net/hocw4x16/ you are pulling your data from app from 400k simulated spins and getting the average spread. With the actual game you doing it over tiny sample sizes....
If you collect a consistent 400k spins of the actual crazytime results you would find that the frequency of each particular bonus lines up with the frequency you get in your simulated 400k spins.
Why can't you see the error in how you are going about it?
If anyone doubts me, here is the link again so you can see for yourself http://crazyrng.infinityfreeapp.com/ There will be many times where you get 3 or 4 per 200 spins and there will be times you get 1.5-2 pages without Crazytime - its all within the range of expectations.
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dirtystack
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Edit - just realised the order is upside down so it is at least 329 spins before the first crazytime, and then 369 spins between the second to last and the last - assuming the results are populated from the top left to the bottom right.
That's 800 spins and twice it went over 300 spins without a Crazytime.
Are you sure your app isn't motorized or has magnets.
You said you trust the results of the app; maybe actually use it and consider all the info it displays rather then just whatever confirms your beliefs.
That's 800 spins and twice it went over 300 spins without a Crazytime.
Are you sure your app isn't motorized or has magnets.
You said you trust the results of the app; maybe actually use it and consider all the info it displays rather then just whatever confirms your beliefs.
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Stevej
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@dirtystack With small sample sizes? Lol! Well it’s better than your 4 screenshots of 400 spins of crazy time that you’re reading wrong.
I have no idea how you calculate your results in that app, but from your screenshots there are 180 spins between ct’s in those pictures. In one screenshot there are only HUNDRED spins. So that means all of your results you sent are wrong. You read it wrong, again. You praised your IQ earlier, but you can’t count to one hundred?
And as you said, we want better spread of results, I made this app that runs EXACTLY the same thing that you can maybe read correctly. Run this 10 times and you get 4 millions spins. Run it hundred times you get 40 millions spins. That’s enough for every slot.
https://jsfiddle.net/hocw4x16/
I have no idea how you calculate your results in that app, but from your screenshots there are 180 spins between ct’s in those pictures. In one screenshot there are only HUNDRED spins. So that means all of your results you sent are wrong. You read it wrong, again. You praised your IQ earlier, but you can’t count to one hundred?
And as you said, we want better spread of results, I made this app that runs EXACTLY the same thing that you can maybe read correctly. Run this 10 times and you get 4 millions spins. Run it hundred times you get 40 millions spins. That’s enough for every slot.
https://jsfiddle.net/hocw4x16/
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RockSalt
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I'd say I'm down 3-4 thousand this year from crazy/alice adventues/ dream catcher etc - but i love the wheels and have no complaints.
My opinion is just based on what I feel/have seen having played it for hundreds of hours. For me there's only two explanations.
They have a brake/ a way to give the wheel more momentum.
Or, there's a kink in the wheel. Maybe its imperfectly balanced but in a way which only manifests at a certain speed, certain section - sometimes.
I can't deny I have seen it jolt into an unnatural slow or somehow keep going. Why that happens - we can't know.
My opinion is just based on what I feel/have seen having played it for hundreds of hours. For me there's only two explanations.
They have a brake/ a way to give the wheel more momentum.
Or, there's a kink in the wheel. Maybe its imperfectly balanced but in a way which only manifests at a certain speed, certain section - sometimes.
I can't deny I have seen it jolt into an unnatural slow or somehow keep going. Why that happens - we can't know.
dirtystack
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Fair enough, thought there was 200 per page.
So the max I had in 4 spins was 228.
The first post I tried you app would have been 390 rather then 790
I was doing it over a small sample size to show that it is wrong to draw conclusions over a small sample size because the results are skewed when done this way - something you are doing whenever you post the Tracksino info whenever you notice it on a bad streak. Why don’t you ask Evolution for the entire game history since release.
This is the first time in all your rigged threads that you have been correct about anything.
congratulations - my simulations predicted this would be impossible and my simulations simulate millions of threads.
Anyway.
Enjoy your little win, some stones the stars align and you get lucky.
dirtystack
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Predictive text sucks*
