ban online casino streamers

ruho79 said:
Good point, at least people aren't drinking alcohol, smoking cigarettes and getting fat anymore. 
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@ruho79 With tighter advertising regulations and public pressure/change in attitudes they are trying to sort this health and social problem out around the issues above, Lets get Gambling/online gambling content involved in this as well yes you agree ? 

 
Ban online casinostreaming said:
@jchneoReally good point and agree with everything in there, I have done the Maths as well regarding how much they deposit and it just doesn't add up and to even cover their losses they would need to be earning in some cases £200,000 + a year depositing those amounts and playing as much as they do. I heard a streamer say i budget for £1500 - £2K a day to stream gambling content to all his viewers !! responsible gambling at its best !!! 
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really bad point (nonsense basically)
lets follow the example of 416.000 deposit of a year
run on 96% Rtp of average slots lets say that would be a net loss of about 16,000 and that is not including all the deposit bonuses for streams.
Have you forgot cashouts?
you did some math, sure. Ive written down all of my streaming deposits and withdrawals for the whole year 2017 - please present me with your MATH and tell me how much im up or down?

 
I'm not going to continue commenting here, but my final note will be that I got into gambling by accidentally coming across Kim's video on youtube. I do not blame him, at all, however, my first deposit on Leo made me lose over 15k in over a year. We have to recognise the issue and I think this forum is not the place where the issue should be discussed, as at the end of the day, its purpose is to draw in gamblers and not to deter them. 

 
Slotplayer said:
Because I took a break, is exactly why I don't have a problem gambling. If I was a problem gambler I would have dipped into my savings, sold some of my shares etc. to fund the habit. But I didn't and I won't.

And not every streamer pumps in £1k - £2k a day. Last week, I put in £300 and made £800 which paid for this week's £300 deposit that I this week turned into a £100 profit. So now I have £900 which at worse will last me another 3 streams. My next stream is not until next week because I have a job to go to. So that will be £300 spent in 3 weeks assuming the £900 goes next week.
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You do understand the difference between a minor gambling problem to gambling addiction up to compulsive gambling addition, By you explaining your own individual situation doesn't cover the topic of "gambling addition" in all forms (how ever if you have had any issues from minor to compulsive you shouldn't be gambling). 

By the way I think you do have a problem with gambling because you had to stop, the problem will get worse and worse until you dont even realise your a complusive gambler as playing slots is normalised for you. If you ever need help im allways here to talk to any one who needs it if i can help in any way. 

 
SpartaFC said:
It's not deceptive because he does it in front of everyone and tells them what he is doing

I would say almost all viewers of most of the streamers know exactly how bonus money, wagering requirements etc work.

I am not here to say slots are not problematic

They can, and will, take every penny from you if you are not careful, cash out when ahead and don't chase elusive bonuses

 going on a moral crusade against streamers seems to be sour grapes to be honest,

You probably lost a lot gambling and are jealous of a few who have managed to make it work for them.
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You said it "a few who have made it work for them" and the damage it causes to a large amount of others. 

 
Ban online casinostreaming said:
You do understand the difference between a minor gambling problem to gambling addiction up to compulsive gambling addition, By you explaining your own individual situation doesn't cover the topic of "gambling addition" in all forms (how ever if you have had any issues from minor to compulsive you shouldn't be gambling). 

By the way I think you do have a problem with gambling because you had to stop, the problem will get worse and worse until you dont even realise your a complusive gambler as playing slots is normalised for you. If you ever need help im allways here to talk to any one who needs it if i can help in any way. 
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I stopped because I wasn't enjoying the bad after bad session anymore and wasn't prepared to throw good money after bad. That makes me a responsible gambler and not a problem gambler of any description. 

I won't touch slots now till Monday.

And if I do need help the last person I will go to is an anonymous person on the internet - no disrespect to you.

 
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Ziggy said:
They do. But it is much easier to lose your mind and re-deposit by entering 3 numbers from the back of card than cash your hard-earned cash in on a blackjack table in the casino. 
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Or turn round from the slot machine and walk a few steps to the cash machine to type in 4 numbers. Why do you think casinos and bingo halls have cash machines inside?

 
Nonprophete said:
An absolute hogwash of a post!!!!!!  BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS and if you feel you have a problem then get the help you need from the NUMEROUS RESOURCES available to you.   Deflecting your addiction issues onto other people such as affiliate streamers is laughable so I'd like to start a petition to ban the SNOWFLAKE generation who simply cannot comprehend that their own actions have consequences........

/end rant.
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Please dont use addition and laughable in the same sentence, Research the problem and show some compassion for human beings with major problems. 

 
Freddy from the hood said:
hello,

i think you being a lil bitch for real no dissrespect.

i try to tell you why in my broke english way.

Everything in this world has a dangerous side, excpecily with the social media shit i can talk with you about a lot of addictions for real i am sensitive for stuff that can addict you thats just the way i lived my whole life, on the edge but thats me personaly.

what got me at gambling was not a streamer or what else i did it myself because i lived a stupid life and begon very young to search for quick money and didnt see the dangerous side of it because i didnt see that about most of the shit i did.

I watch Rock n rolla for a veryyy long time, i can say the start of his streaming and the way he talked about it and what i saw was not someone who supported gambling, it was someone who slapped me in the face with facts about the danger because i litterly see him loose thousends of money and see him upset while i am safe behind my laptop watching. 

the story's of other watchers that overcome addiction and search for ''relieve'' at his streams.

what i say is, the most ''addicts'' dont come from Advertisement or streams, its the up-bringing , the place, the personal things , mental unstable stuff like that just that.

Thas like ban the movies because they support murder, rape, false love hope and all that shit. 

its just when people give fault to the streamers that says a lot of there personal situation. like you dont have a saying for youself,

so yeah its yo boy freddy hope you understand anyhting
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Good to have feedback from both sides thanks for posting, 

From the little "bitch"  :)  

 
Slotspinner said:
really bad point (nonsense basically)
lets follow the example of 416.000 deposit of a year
run on 96% Rtp of average slots lets say that would be a net loss of about 16,000 and that is not including all the deposit bonuses for streams.
Have you forgot cashouts?
you did some math, sure. Ive written down all of my streaming deposits and withdrawals for the whole year 2017 - please present me with your MATH and tell me how much im up or down?
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Yea @Slotspinner playing slots all day every day is good and you can make money from it like a "professional slots player" !!! yea right, or at best as you say get 96% of your money back , what a load of rubbish, Again please start promoting responsible gambling or you will be shut down trust me ! Or at least taken of you tube. 

 
I never thought when i made the first post it would attract this level of interaction. Please keep it going as everything that is being said is being logged for the report, from both sides. Thank you all for taking the time to get involved in this sensitive subject. 

 
Your here to get both views and then go around making threats saying "you will be shut down" who the hell are you to say that to him. Any credibility you had was lost when you start threatening streams. Don't like then don't watch them. You and you alone are the only person who can stop yourself from gambling 

 
I will use whatever words I choose to respond to someone who has failed to take responsibility for their own actions and addictions.  There are NUMEROUS resources available to you that would help you deal with whatever issues you face regarding a gambling addiction.  Instead of posting on a forum on the internet, maybe your time would be better served seeking out the help you obviously need.  Lastly, let me give you some advice that will help you throughout your life. 

NO ONE owes you a damn thing.  Not one thing.  You and ONLY you are responsible for the choices you make in your life and looking inwards is far more satisfying and healing than looking outwards for solutions to your problems.

 
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Yea @Slotspinner playing slots all day every day is good and you can make money from it like a "professional slots player" !!! yea right, or at best as you say get 96% of your money back , what a load of rubbish, Again please start promoting responsible gambling or you will be shut down trust me ! Or at least taken of you tube. 
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You really need to get off the internet now and go to gamblers anonymous meeting instead of continuing to argue your ridiculous and laughable position.

 
Gbpeng89 said:
Your here to get both views and then go around making threats saying "you will be shut down" who the hell are you to say that to him. Any credibility you had was lost when you start threatening streams. Don't like then don't watch them. You and you alone are the only person who can stop yourself from gambling 
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You're*

 
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