ban online casino streamers

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Yea @Slotspinner playing slots all day every day is good and you can make money from it like a "professional slots player" !!! yea right, or at best as you say get 96% of your money back , what a load of rubbish, Again please start promoting responsible gambling or you will be shut down trust me ! Or at least taken of you tube. 
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You did not go on about any of my points with sense, i will no longer talk to you. You are a blind hater and causing havoc cause you have nothing else to do.

My last post to these nonsense people in this thread here not wasting any more time on you. Go outside folks have some fresh air.

 
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@Slotspinner Im glad your not gonna comment because you come across as a complete Ignoramus,  What are people suppose to write about in the responsible gambling section?  Is that not what its here for? nobody is causing havoc its simply a debate.  The OP cant close you down can he,

 
Slotspinner said:
Ive skimmed through the few latest comments and gonna answer some or give my opinion:

1. Someone said we do not tell that we earn from the links: wrong. repeatedly stated by all.

2. Crusade against "fake" streamers. We dont even say a word about these for over a year now - simply though to understand, would you like it if you were a streamer playing your own money and then theres some guys coming with 10k "Deposit" of fake money every stream buying viewbots etc deceiving people to the fullest (these should get banned anyway that is just fraud)

3.1 We rely on players losing for income - No. The structure of most deals make it possible to earn when EVERY player is winning.

3.2 Affiliate is immoral - Hello what the F? You as a player get more benefits than before, you are not forced to play anyway, if you dont use the link the casino gets 100% of the money - if you choose the links you may get better rewards, and part of the money you may lose goes to the streamer. If you feel better by having less rewards and lose your money fully to the company behind the casino you are well damn free to do so. Nobody is forced on any of this, so i dont see one reason to complain.

4. All and for once - problem gamblers should look to solve their issues - advised to not even watch streams. Some people it helps to stay off gambling watching though. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS PLEASE. STOP BLAMING. You say what if problem gamblers watch you, well its quite damn hard to find any of us unless you actively search for it or have been watching tons of Slot material before - in which case , how is that our problem? If all streamers were to be banned those people would watch slots somewhere else or go to gamble themselves anyway its not tackling their problem in the slightest
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1. Slotspinner , now i lost all respect from you... in What world do you or other streamers ” repeteadly” state  that you earn from viewers using your link!!!!

ive been watching your streams alot and perhaps heard one time something about ”supporting me” if you use my link. NOT repeateadly stating we ger cash from your loss/ winnings.. and to Correct me What affiliate have Cashout to affiliates if there players win? Ive been affiliated and never seen that deal...

2. You want proof ? Check roshteins instagram and nickslots comments.. regarding hes bancruptcy.. i mean the Guy goes bancrupt according to some other dude claims and nickslots spreads it and comments... unless you mean since 2018

BUT promoting affiliate casinos with top ranks when they actually dont really deserve that rank ”highroller casino rating” isnt fraud ????? And you state that CG is a good place to get guidance to good casinos???  Good for whom ? You or the players ???

3.2 who the hell says its immoral??

it becomes immoral when you hide the facts... i stated earlier post i dont mind streamers earning lots,  since they spend alot of work on it. But dont try to make it as it isnt about the money... its all about the money i hate hippocracy.. 

be open, state clear and loud, i can Keep on playing Thanks to fact i have you viewers, using my link watching my stream. Dont make it like we earn nothing it doesnt cover my deposits bl.a. bl.a. we dont get anything so forth. I get payed from bl.a. bl.a. casino to play at there website and so on. Be fucking open about it!

For me it Seems like you all streamers are so afraid that if people would know how much u can earn if things goes Well Lots of people would start there own streams. Be fucking open. 

4. People are always accountable for there own actions. But if you as a streamer doesnt realize your a part of this industry with as you claim great offer links are also inflicting people with problems.. remember you claim in point 1. That you repeatadly state you get payed if people are using your link , and in 3.2 you state you give better offers then if signing directly to the casino themself. That for me makes you a pusher....

 
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@TommyBhoy yes David is one example, but there are many before him aswell.... 

i think theres a reason for the established streamers to be very protective about the the whole business , they dont want competition,

if people would realise thac

 
Lokus said:
@TommyBhoy yes David is one example, but there are many before him aswell.... 

i think theres a reason for the established streamers to be very protective about the the whole business , they dont want competition,

if people would realise thac
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If they don't want competition then why put a guide up on this website how to stream and even give tips how to make it a good one?

 
Right guys i sat here for the past few days watching this post and reading all the comments here my 5p worth based on what i now 

1) the sign ups links make the streamer money some say loads others say next to none this is all open to popular conjecture but there plenty of evidence to subjects there making loads from it if you take a look at bandit video it could be around 90k to 180k depending how u look at the numbers this video caused nothing short of a massive fall out when he posted it and got him a lot of hate and support but only support from the what i call Casino mafia who ran around him to protect him from the haters who were not amused that he was making so much from others losses.

2) Slotplayer ur just using this platform and this post to gain subs and get people to watch ur streams u have no interest n this subject but yet u post answer every 3rd comment you so maybe you had ur say on this post now let others say there piece.

3) this is only my view on this yes two big channels have suddenly been closed down and yes more may follow but n truth till twitch ban them out right and you tube stop them also you wont stop these channel popping up and sucking the last few quid out of people pockets.

4) i wish you luck @Ban online casinostreaming but feel till the above has been done with ukgg then ur prob banging ur head off a wall and bear in mind Kim Nick And a few others run this site all beit now owned by the interesting Leovegas your get no response from them on here ask your self a question why did they pay 5 million sek for it this channelnothing more than a cash generator for them and how can it be transparent now its owned by a casino lets be honest i dont walk into asda and they tell me tesco is better do they so this web site not going to say casumo better than it is i say no more.

5) lets see how long my response stay here before it gets deleted 

 
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Right guys i sat here for the past few days watching this post and reading all the comments here my 5p worth based on what i now 

1) the sign ups links make the streamer money some say loads others say next to none this is all open to popular conjecture but there plenty of evidence to subjects there making loads from it if you take a look at bandit video it could be around 90k to 180k depending how u look at the numbers this video caused nothing short of a massive fall out when he posted it and got him a lot of hate and support but only support from the what i call Casino mafia who ran around him to protect him from the haters who were not amused that he was making so much from others losses.

2) Slotplayer ur just using this platform and this post to gain subs and get people to watch ur streams u have no interest n this subject but yet u post answer every 3rd comment you so maybe you had ur say on this post now let others say there piece.

3) this is only my view on this yes two big channels have suddenly been closed down and yes more may follow but n truth till twitch ban them out right and you tube stop them also you wont stop these channel popping up and sucking the last few quid out of people pockets.

4) i wish you luck @Ban online casinostreaming but feel till the above has been done with ukgg then ur prob banging ur head off a wall and bear in mind Kim Nick And a few others run this site all beit now owned by the interesting Leovegas your get no response from them on here ask your self a question why did they pay 5 million sek for it this channelnothing more than a cash generator for them and how can it be transparent now its owned by a casino lets be honest i dont walk into asda and they tell me tesco is better do they so this web site not going to say casumo better than it is i say no more.

5) lets see how long my response stay here before it gets deleted 
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It won't get deleted. Moderators on this forum are quite good in letting people express their views as long as such views are not abusive or insulting.

 
well i not done any of that just added my 10 cents worth based on what i seen done and be involved in and yes i did once fight to have them stopped then gave up and tried to do it myself so this makes me a bit of a hypocrite but i just thought i say this before someone else does 

 
@Slotspinner claiming this in his post

3.1 We rely on players losing for income - No. The structure of most deals make it possible to earn when EVERY player is winning.

This is one of the most ridiculous comments I have ever heard in my life

@PaulD Formally Action for good points, nickslots says they went to leovegas as they needed good coders, LOL

 
not good anyone being addicted to anything but blaming people and streamers here just seems like aiming ur problems elsewhere there are far more betting adverts on the TV and on sports teams in papers etc then online those things u cant avoid on youtube or twitch you dont have to log on as hard as it may be

 
@Gee_Bee1 Im not blaming one person, They are all doing more harm than good, what if u type fifa 18 and come across chipmonks gambling channel as he streams fifa too

@Lokus do u have a link to that comment by nickslots on roshsteins instagram as surely he wouldnt stoop that low?

 
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Hello everyone! Hope you all are having an amazing day :)

My view on this matter will of course get questioned due to the fact that I stream casino myself, but I will still explain what my view on the subject is. I love both gambling and streaming cause I get to talk to amazing people and I generally do this four times a week.

It is extremely important to promote and talk about responsible gambling on stream, which is something that streamers streaming under the CasinoGrounds name take very seriously. We cannot stand for what other streamers are doing outside of the network itself. Gambling is really fun (otherwise we all would not be in this forum ;)  ) but it can be an addictive hobby which can result in disasterous consequences for the individual if it is not done in a responsible manner. The thing is that this applies to many things in our current society like alcohol for example. I do not deny that there are problem gamblers, but I am rather implying that streamers that follow the guidelines for responsible gambling are not the cause of this problem. I stream cause I have a genuine passion for gambling and that I really like the community that we have created. These are of course my own opinions so feel free to disagree if you feel like you have a different opinion.

My advice for problem gamblers is to stop watching all casino related content (I know that it is no easy task), but the most important thing to do is to seek help from the ones that you love (and the people that loves you).

 
The point of view provided by the original poster is one shared by myself and many others. 

All streamers need to be banned to protect the vulnerable. Hopefully this is the start of things to come. I have spent countless hours complaining to the UKGC about their legality when combined with giveaways. They also seems to follow zero regulations and simply put 'support the channel' in a pretty poor attempt at transparency. 

I have said this a thousand times but the average person who plays slots is not watching these streams. It's the slot fanatic and problem gambler who is watching. You have to actively seek slot videos and big wins to watch this content so a lot of the people watching have an addiction. This seems to not phase streamers at all. Maybe this current crisis will wake them up to the reality that they too can get shut down. 

Have a look around and tell me who actually complies with the ASA. Little to none if you believe they have to adhere to the ruling which states that prior to consumer engagement (watching the video) it must be made clear that the person or company behind the video makes a profit when you sign up. 

Casinos won't do a thing because it's generates massive income for them. Casumo told me they don't actually care if the person representing them is an addict themselves which 90% are, the other 10% being pure business minded. That in itself is a huge problem. 

I reported a long list of these streamers. I also reported Facebook accounts who used a similar system for giveaways in particular (to the UKGC) and today all 6 of those accounts were shut down. I sincerely hope the YouTube accounts encounter the same type of demise. 

Remember why people like myself are doing this before I get abuse. It's to protect the vulnerable. Not to directly stop someone making a living. Most streamers I speak to are actually okay on a personal level. Greed and opportunity is a terrible combination however. 

 
nice responce @Huggehugg i see your point also but i dont see why we need players i.e streamers playing such large stakes this will only make people do the same a 40p or 60p stake shows a more responsible way to gamble would you not agree 

 
@Huggehugg @Slotplayer both of you play with reasonable stakes

nickslots, kim and at times davidlabowsky and slotspinner play with stakes that are beyond belief and not normal yet they claim they want to encourage responsible gambling.

 
@Hello everyone! Hope you all are having an amazing day :)

My view on this matter will of course get questioned due to the fact that I stream casino myself, but I will still explain what my view on the subject is. I love both gambling and streaming cause I get to talk to amazing people and I generally do this four times a week.

It is extremely important to promote and talk about responsible gambling on stream, which is something that streamers streaming under the CasinoGrounds name take very seriously. We cannot stand for what other streamers are doing outside of the network itself. Gambling is really fun (otherwise we all would not be in this forum ;)  ) but it can be an addictive hobby which can result in disasterous consequences for the individual if it is not done in a responsible manner. The thing is that this applies to many things in our current society like alcohol for example. I do not deny that there are problem gamblers, but I am rather implying that streamers that follow the guidelines for responsible gambling are not the cause of this problem. I stream cause I have a genuine passion for gambling and that I really like the community that we have created. These are of course my own opinions so feel free to disagree if you feel like you have a different opinion.

My advice for problem gamblers is to stop watching all casino related content (I know that it is no easy task), but the most important thing to do is to seek help from the ones that you love (and the people that loves you).

 
@TommyBhoy @PaulD Formally Action for My opinion on stakes is that I will always play stakes that I myself am comfortable with, which applies for both streamers and those who play offline. @LetsGiveItASpin for example has stated many times on stream that he plays "lower" stakes on stream, eventhough his personal economy would allow bigger bets. He could of course play much bigger bets and most likely attract a bigger crowd, but he actually do not want to do that.

 
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