should this be possible? jammin jars

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I dont think the providers or casinos would rigg slots for streamers but if the slots work that way that only a "film" is pikked from a number of "films", and not every combination of symbols is possible, they could do it easy - as the provider and the casino both know who is playing.

And i clearly thought that every symbol is choosen randomly - maybe higher symbols with a lesser percentage. If that slots only play randomly choosen films i could play scratchcards. 

In my opinion the rng should decide on what symbol each reel will stop, and not what "film" will be showed. As i now know i ll not play those slots anymore. Its the same with predetermed pick and win bonusses. If it is described in the description its ok for me - but not this way.

 
@Slotspinner you know exactly how low to almost Impossible the odds of this happening are its like 2 people winning lottery who live next to each other same building Not only that the win is that huge it happend to two of the bigger streamers on twitch there are only a handful of them as you know so its even more impossible

 
I'm quite sure there's a reasonable explanation for it - be it that they set reels for certain wins or something similar. 

Slots are running from 94-97% RTP, there is absolutely no reason to "rigg" them - it would cost a provider their license and would most likely go bankrupt.

So from reasonable perspective, why would you do it if it can cost you losing your company? RTP is there for a reason - to earn casinos and providers money.

 
@Skylined87 what do you Think about my last answer to slotspinner explain that of course you gonna defend the Casinos you earn Money trough them or atleast your buisness Partners 

 
There are 8 x 8 fields on that slot - with at least 5 different fruitsymbols. The number of possible combination without jars is 5^64 oder 5.4210109e+44 , a number so big you cant even imagine or have a name for it for the first screen alone - and even the following symbols are exactly the same - no way this is random.

 
chryme187 said:
@Skylined87 what do you Think about my last answer to slotspinner explain that of course you gonna defend the Casinos you earn Money trough them or atleast your buisness Partners 
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I'm not defending anyone. From my understanding how slots work, I wrote my own opinion on it. We did however ask Push Gaming to step in and clarify how this could've happened as I'm interested as well. 

But honestly - would YOU risk your company if you were a slot provider to "rigg" slots for the streamers? I know I wouldn't :)  The income from that 6-3% difference of RTP is bringing in enough money, otherwise casinos and slot providers would've been long gone.

And on top of that - it's not even Casino's fault - it's the providers. Same as the dreamcatcher topic. Casino has absolutely NO control on the outcome of the slots, they merely just provide "front-end" for slots from providers. They can do it directly or through platform such as SG Digital (where the platform has deal with multiple slot providers so it's easier for casinos to offer larger variety of games).

 
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i realised this ages ago. im pretty sure every slot provider has built this in their slots. specificly book of dead on Playngo. you can see this occur.

Every session and every betsize session has its own wins given/bonuses given.  im sure im not the only one who has seen this happen playing several thousands spins on same slot but just changing betsizes. 

sad but true

 
@Skylined87 you did not answer my explanation to slotspinner the odds of this happening to exactly two of the biggest streamers in twitch Casino section in the exact same way the odds for that are lower then anything you can imagine and yet we still see it happening looks like promotion for their slot for me

 
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I dont think that the slot doesnt have that rtp. I dont think that these "films" they seem to pick are not picked randomly. But i dont want to see randomly picked filmes at a fixed percentage (rtp). I want symbols or reels stop randomly.

 
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@Skylined87 you did not answer my explanation to slotspinner the odds of this happening to exactly two of the biggest streamers in twitch Casino section in the exact same way the odds for that are lower then anything you can imagine and yet we still der irgendwie happening looks like promotion for their slot for me
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We're getting nowhere here :) I know what you want to know - and I want to know as well as this is the first time I have seen it. The odds of this happening to 2 different streamers in my opinion are really next to none, but it happened anyway. Hence I am curious myself for explanation from Push Gaming.

 
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Finally you did agree with my point of the odds for this to happen its impossible to many factor play a role @Skylined87 its just simple math
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Of course I agree :D  What I didn't agree on though is that we're "defending" casinos, while in fact malfunction of the slot has nothing to do with the casino. But yes generally we're on the same page regarding Jammin Jars.

 
although jammin jars is more of a cluster game and queen of riches is a cyclone also 2  different providers but let me just show you something..........

Shriox1980 stake £4 - and won £9,830.40 

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My stake £0.40p - and won £983.04

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both 4096 ways of 10s...........

it is possible to hit the same wins as other people although random, its a RNG Random number generator............. regardless of the graphics it shows you! 

we'll hear a response from @Push Gaming hopefully soon.. just to clear up this + the morons who think rigged for streamers.

I'm an every day person no affiliation, no streaming, no videos just a everyday casino Player and since October 2016 I'm in the plus around £22,000 playing sensible stakes. and sensible deposit limits. the people who think its rigged for streamers or anyone in that case are just 100% Jealous because they can't win or as I said before afford to play the games.

 
Im curious to see what Push gaming has to say about this, anything else at this point is speculation.

Slots Rigged for streamers, on the other hand, is absolute BS. And that will always be the same

 
i didnt say they rigg it for streamers - but the picture you show is way more likely because all wheels are synchonized and then the chances for 4 times 10 on wheel is maybe 8^4 = 4096 to 1 - maybe more likely because symbols are stacked. Then you have to multipy by 6 for 2 to 7 symbols shown on each wheel - makes it about somthing like 1 times of 25.000 you get this if all reels synchronized - way way more likely than that what the video in first post shows.

 
I don't have a problem with picking a random outcome and "playing out a movie" or whatever, which seems the likely case. This means that there is certainly a max win that isn't stated anywhere though.

Probably the same thing is being done with lots of these cascade games, Reactoonz etc., just that someone happened to notice this.

 
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although jammin jars is more of a cluster game and queen of riches is a cyclone also 2  different providers but let me just show you something..........

Shriox1980 stake £4 - and won £9,830.40 

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My stake £0.40p - and won £983.04

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both 4096 ways of 10s...........

it is possible to hit the same wins as other people although random, its a RNG Random number generator............. regardless of the graphics it shows you! 

we'll hear a response from @Push Gaming hopefully soon.. just to clear up this + the morons who think rigged for streamers.

I'm an every day person no affiliation, no streaming, no videos just a everyday casino Player and since October 2016 I'm in the plus around £22,000 playing sensible stakes. and sensible deposit limits. the people who think its rigged for streamers or anyone in that case are just 100% Jealous because they can't win or as I said before afford to play the games.
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Completely missed the point again, it's not that they both had the same win it's that they both had the exact same sequence of spins and identical symbols all over the board, qor does full screen symbols a lot and is in no way similar to jammin jars.

 
themagics92 said:
we'll hear a response from @Push Gaming hopefully soon.. just to clear up this + the morons who think rigged for streamers.

I'm an every day person no affiliation, no streaming, no videos just a everyday casino Player and since October 2016 I'm in the plus around £22,000 playing sensible stakes. and sensible deposit limits. the people who think its rigged for streamers or anyone in that case are just 100% Jealous because they can't win or as I said before afford to play the games.
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We, the morons, know you are just saying this to garner favour with Push gaming in the hope that they will send that sweet 1660x win your way.

 
The troubling part, is that it would have to be programmed to show it hit this pattern. There should never be any pre-determined wins in the base game, period!

Press spin > collects random number from server > shows random result , this is Random.

What you see here though, pre-set/determined results from said server. I'm going to dig through some more videos of other PUSH Slots and see what I can find.

Skynoob! DansGame

 
still no explanation from anybody same with the dreamcatcher topic says it all again really rigged bs and we are playing it 

 
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