9600x on Monopoly first bet of stream

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13 hours ago, Jadnici said:

What kind of proof do you need? If there s a ton of people saying their bets were rejected are u saying that they all lie?

Could u explain to beloved people of this forum how come every year we see streamers uping stakes on slots? 

Did gambling suddenly became profitable bussines?

Could u explain to me situation from last year where Shirox and Casino Daddy had same f win on Jammin jars, same layout , same win x 

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You need proof that its actually rigged, people being kicked from a game happens , maybe there was maintenance i dont know, how many people were kicked? i only see a handful of complaints, if it was thousand people kicked we would be flooded on all forums..

Jammin Jars has too few outcomes for a slotmachine which all are wins played out as a video (predetermined) this was discussed a long time ago and unfortunately they just didnt put enough different spin-outcomes into the game. This results in the posssibility to see the exact same sequence/win in this game again and it will happen again, it probably is happening all the time but not many stream

Slot streaming and affiliation surely can be profitable, and why do you keep coming up with landbased RTP? whats that got to do with anything

 
Slotspinner said:
You need proof that its actually rigged, people being kicked from a game happens , maybe there was maintenance i dont know, how many people were kicked? i only see a handful of complaints, if it was thousand people kicked we would be flooded on all forums..
 
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I see that you wanna defend casino business and game providers since it's probably your work, dunno. But the thing is that we, players who love casino games, don't wanna support unfair business. There are too many weird things happened in Evolution Gaming live games. Since it seems that gaming authorities can't control and regulate this business properly, casino players have to talk about it more openly.

My bet was rejected and I was pushed away from Dreamcatcher before it hit 2000x. What can I do? Well here I'm in the forum telling about and nobody gives a shit. Read youtube comments about rejected bets in Monopoly. Nobody cares and Evolution Gaming just continues scamming. 

 
WHY would they want to do such things from provider side, as it's already to their advantage? (RTP isn't just there for cosmetics, it's there to give an edge to casino & providers to be able to run the business)

Technology itself isn't perfect, yes there will be disconnects and rejected bets because the system didn't register it in time (due to latency or other technical factor). If regulators found just ONE game being "rigged" the game provider would most likely be out of business immediately. And yes sometimes the tinfoil can be strong :P

 
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Stevej said:
Whatever you show to people there will always be 3000 players in Monopoly.
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Don't spread misinformation. There are 3000-4000 players on Monopoly only in peak hours. In the morning it is below 2000 usually, before coronavirus it was waaaay below 2000 if I recall correctly.

Stevej said:
There has to be a reason why Monopoly gets so much negative feedback.
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Yes, there is a reason. People don't understand gambling. Monopoly chat is under fire like 24/7 by lunatic gamblers, no matter what happens. This game is really bad RTP, last year I played only a few times a month and I was winning almost every time (and I was hitting quite big multipliers), this year I was playing way more often and I haven't had single cash out despite the fact there was some nice multis. It is called variance.

Stevej said:
Youtube is full of these infinitely spinning wheel videos and all weird shit related to Monopoly. And it's hosted from 90's love-ferry looking casino room in some eastern country, though Evo is a Swedish company. 😂 Why does it have to be like that? I'm sorry but my personal trust for this provider is pure zero.
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At this point I begin to think you're just a troll.

A lot of you write that they give big multipliers deliberately only when no one is playing but y'all avoid the fact that 6400x happened at noon and 2920x happened during peak hours.

And by the way, we don't know how much bets is rejected during every round (on average), it is possible that amount of bets rejected before 9600x was the same as it is before every round - and it is logical that people start to complain only when it hits, not when they lose.

 
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Didn’t mean to troll. Just thinking it’s a bit comical.

Right. Let’s talk about maths and variance. Today I followed Sic Bo by Evolution Gaming. I joined a session and it was immediately 300-400 rolls without triples (I know because I saw the last one). Took hours. Odds for triples is 1:36. Maybe I happened to join in a very bad moment. Btw for some reason they are not providing long term stats for this game.
 

If you wanna calculate odds for triples not appearing in 300 rolls, it works like this: (35/36)^300. That’s 0,02% probability. I even made javascript rng app to check how often that scenario could happen. It’s a pseudo rng, but it’s fair enough to show the variance. I can link it later.

According to my app, that should happen about once in 30000-100000 rolls. I’ve seen 200-300 ”cold scenarios” almost in every session that I’ve followed a bit longer. I used to play this game quite much. I’m also very interested how the variance works in this game.

Please, try it. Take three dices. Throw it on a table and try to get 300 throws without having three same numbers. Tell me if you made it.

I asked another forum if Sic Bo is animated and computer rng calculated. It looks real. Someone answered me ”why would it be rng because it’s same thing with real dices”.

Well that’s exactly the thing I’m thinking here. Why do they have make everything feel fishy and scam?? They are saying it’s live casino, but in the end it seems to be just a computer based bullshit casino hidden in a live casino environment. That’s one really big problem with Evolution and it’s enough for me to say that they are just absolute scam. It feels that they are not ready to take any risks at all, and maybe not giving massive wins to many players is the only way to keep casinos to provide Evolution’s games on their sites.

 
Stevej said:
Didn’t mean to troll. Just thinking it’s a bit comical.

Right. Let’s talk about maths and variance. Today I followed Sic Bo by Evolution Gaming. I joined a session and it was immediately 300-400 rolls without triples (I know because I saw the last one). Took hours. Odds for triples is 1:36. Maybe I happened to join in a very bad moment. Btw for some reason they are not providing long term stats for this game.
 

If you wanna calculate odds for triples not appearing in 300 rolls, it works like this: (35/36)^300. That’s 0,02% probability. I even made javascript rng app to check how often that scenario could happen. It’s a pseudo rng, but it’s fair enough to show the variance. I can link it later.

According to my app, that should happen about once in 30000-100000 rolls. I’ve seen 200-300 ”cold scenarios” almost in every session that I’ve followed a bit longer. I used to play this game quite much. I’m also very interested how the variance works in this game.

Please, try it. Take three dices. Throw it on a table and try to get 300 throws without having three same numbers. Tell me if you made it.

I asked another forum if Sic Bo is animated and computer rng calculated. It looks real. Someone answered me ”why would it be rng because it’s same thing with real dices”.

Well that’s exactly the thing I’m thinking here. Why do they have make everything feel fishy and scam?? They are saying it’s live casino, but in the end it seems to be just a computer based bullshit casino hidden in a live casino environment. That’s one really big problem with Evolution and it’s enough for me to say that they are just absolute scam. It feels that they are not ready to take any risks at all, and maybe not giving massive wins to many players is the only way to keep casinos to provide Evolution’s games on their sites.
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A little fix. 300 throws without triples happen once in 100000-300000 throws.

 
I once was playing 0 neighbours on roulette(ladbrokes roulette) and it came 0 section 5 times in a row.

i proceeded to up my bet to around £400 a spin from £70.

it came in another 5 or 6 times in a row - however those 5 or 6 spins “bet not confirmed” on the 7th spin I up to £600 spin thinking if it does come in it’s huge.

bet confirms, number 8...

i would of made around 7/8k if those had confirmed. My signal never changed, I was in the same location at 4pm UK time.

coincidence ?

 
ElJayDee said:
I once was playing 0 neighbours on roulette(ladbrokes roulette) and it came 0 section 5 times in a row.

i proceeded to up my bet to around £400 a spin from £70.

it came in another 5 or 6 times in a row - however those 5 or 6 spins “bet not confirmed” on the 7th spin I up to £600 spin thinking if it does come in it’s huge.
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Well it seems that you haven't read my previous message about Monopoly variance and you didn't understand my point from mathematical perspective, I just attach one picture here and say that I'm AGAIN third time in this same day watching Evolution Gaming Sic Bo with 300 throws without one triple. It means that they have absolute control of their games and they can manipulate the variance to be bigger that it actually is. Of course it's understandable to do that on table games meaning that people keep on betting that specific number until they loose all money.

But hey, everybody can do whatever they want with their money. As much as I love casino games and understand that players will always lose, personally I don't want to be scammed.

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I agree that nowadays it's quite challenging to take seriously these big wins from Evo.



 
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Thank god for all this info guys. Thank you. I’ll never play live casino ever again. Undoubtedly rigged. All these streamers are currently out of control too. €£$10 and €£$20 even €£$40 per spin on a slot is absolutely idiotic and must be causing crazy amounts of carnage, in terms of people trying to replicate those wins. Take care everyone, peace.

 
More mystery coming in MONOPOLY LIVE 10x 2ROLL game was stuck for few mins to start and finally after first roll which was 22 dice machine broke and was not rolling dices.After 20mins of wait time they canceled  game so the players got only their stake refunded.I seen in chat a lot of players telling they had 50-100euro bets placed on that round.

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Video of canceled game.And strange on 2:01min there was message from host to check video record for bonus round which not started?



 
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Hi my 9600 x win on £6 stake is up on youtube . Have a a look if you get a chance . I’m very lucky to be in the right place at the right time . Channel Deano slots

 
Today on Dream Catcher almost 6 hours no 40 RED or in other ways said around 540 spins.

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