Fake Casino Games Streamers

I agree that people streaming need to maintain a level of integrity for all of us who gamble online with real money. The only way to find out if a site is legitimate is by research. Streamers are by far the best way to choose an online Casino to spend your hard earned cash. Ligit Casinos also should be weary of this type of behavior and ban the practice of fake money streaming unless the streamer is transparent in his/her actions. 

 
realagentbearrrrr said:
His reactions seem fake to me and his streams lack any tension which means he either doesn't care about the money or it;s play money . That's my opinion on it anyway but I haven't watched very often because I never rly liked the stream much . Why do you think he is fake ?
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Yes, I felt the same that something was not right in the beginning. Like, how can they deposit 2k€ every weekday and still live at home with mama? If you search on who owns Casinorobot.com it will link you to a guy who runs an online marketing firm that specialises on the affiliate business. I also found his profile on social media and a plethora of webpages that contained a referral link fest to online casinos and other markets that he owns. His social media pages on the other hand was filled with pics on him together with gold digger babes, yachts and Moet and Chandon bottles. It seems like a lucrative business indeed. Browsed further and found him together with both Casinorobot AND Mr. Casino Joel. These pics date way back before they even started their Twitch career. This firm has offices in both Sweden and Malta and operates under the brand Ribacka Group. The owners also happen to be Casinorobots older brothers! My conclusion is that they have recruited Casinorobot since he was an avid fan of Twitch and together made their deals with shady casino affiliate managers. I mean, if CR is friends on Facebook with a guy who distributes a server platform that hosts a casino network group, one should be slightly concerned what's really going on behind the scenes?

These streamers are still active almost everyday, but their viewership numbers has dipped significantly. Most likely due to when Casinorobot got exposed severeal times for fakin' it while getting drunk in a desperate attempt to attract people. So most viewers either feel like you did, or got the word that they did indeed faked their deposits and win reactions, They deposited about the same amount everyday and worked in shift to scam the world.

The thought of people wholeheartedly cheering these dudes on and supporting them by signing up and donating is sickening. When they are actually lying for work and are just acting, deceiving and take people for being fools. Although obviously Casinorobot is not the real wolf of Malta. I mean I would most likely look up to my brothers too and follow them in their footsteps. Anyway I believe it is the communities responsibility to keep what they are passionate about clean and support the honest streamers  that put their fortune on the line.

Let's finish off this rant with some pics that hopefully supports this accusation.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BBapwApGFv6/ (Casinorobot together with Ribacka Group)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BJiD182BQNm/  (Owner showing off his "gift" from Leovegas after a successful partnership)

https://www.instagram.com/p/4AE2YjmFh_/ (A Ribacka brother with Mr. Casino discussing future scamming businesses)

 
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SavedByTheBars said:
Yes, I felt the same that something was not right in the beginning. Like, how can they deposit 2k€ every weekday and still live at home with mama? If you search on who owns Casinorobot.com it will link you to a guy who runs an online marketing firm that specialises on the affiliate business. I also found his profile on social media and a plethora of webpages that contained a referral link fest to online casinos and other markets that he owns. His social media pages on the other hand was filled with pics on him together with gold digger babes, yachts and Moet and Chandon bottles. It seems like a lucrative business indeed. Browsed further and found him together with both Casinorobot AND Mr. Casino Joel. These pics date way back before they even started their Twitch career. This firm has offices in both Sweden and Malta and operates under the brand Ribacka Group. The owners also happen to be Casinorobots older brothers! My conclusion is that they have recruited Casinorobot since he was an avid fan of Twitch and together made their deals with shady casino affiliate managers. I mean, if CR is friends on Facebook with a guy who distributes a server platform that hosts a casino network group, one should be slightly concerned what's really going on behind the scenes?

These streamers are still active almost everyday, but their viewership numbers has dipped significantly. Most likely due to when Casinorobot got exposed severeal times for fakin' it while getting drunk in a desperate attempt to attract people. So most viewers either feel like you did, or got the word that they did indeed faked their deposits and win reactions, They deposited about the same amount everyday and worked in shift to scam the world.

The thought of people wholeheartedly cheering these dudes on and supporting them by signing up and donating is sickening. When they are actually lying for work and are just acting, deceiving and take people for being fools. Although obviously Casinorobot is not the real wolf of Malta. I mean I would most likely look up to my brothers too and follow them in their footsteps. Anyway I believe it is the communities responsibility to keep what they are passionate about clean and support the honest streamers  that put their fortune on the line.

Let's finish off this rant with some pics that hopefully supports this accusation.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BBapwApGFv6/ (Casinorobot together with Ribacka Group)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BJiD182BQNm/  (Owner showing off his "gift" from Leovegas after a successful partnership)

https://www.instagram.com/p/4AE2YjmFh_/ (A Ribacka brother with Mr. Casino discussing future scamming businesses)
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Nice work!!

 
I will write about something which is somewhat of a soft spot.

In regards to LeoVegas previously no one knows the conversations between them and casino robot, how complicit they were and obviously streaming is relatively new and a good way to reach the target market directly so mistakes may have been made. It also may be naïve to simply assume they went into previous partnerships with eyes closed

HOWEVER, I think it's fair to say since they have partnered up with Kim they seem to really be engaging with the community, offering good bonuses and the cash race looked amazing hopefully more fantastic work to come moving forward and more progress in righting any previous wrongs. Leovegas clearly have made a huge effort to not let the past affect the future and I'm playing their regularly without any issues, great service and fast cash outs.

I don't have an inner working of this industry but I do believe anyone blatantly misleading people for donations and affiliate sign-up's should have their affiliate accounts de-activated. retrospectively by any reputable casino wanting to engage with the streaming community.

In my opinion what Casino Robot and others are doing, perhaps not legally but by definition is fraud and any casinos continuing to work with them once this information is disclosed should be tarred with the same brush as the "streamers" leading the façade.

/Rant Over!

 
jaggrdy said:
I will write about something which is somewhat of a soft spot.

In regards to LeoVegas previously no one knows the conversations between them and casino robot, how complicit they were and obviously streaming is relatively new and a good way to reach the target market directly so mistakes may have been made. It also may be naïve to simply assume they went into previous partnerships with eyes closed

HOWEVER, I think it's fair to say since they have partnered up with Kim they seem to really be engaging with the community, offering good bonuses and the cash race looked amazing hopefully more fantastic work to come moving forward and more progress in righting any previous wrongs. Leovegas clearly have made a huge effort to not let the past affect the future and I'm playing their regularly without any issues, great service and fast cash outs.

I don't have an inner working of this industry but I do believe anyone blatantly misleading people for donations and affiliate sign-up's should have their affiliate accounts de-activated. retrospectively by any reputable casino wanting to engage with the streaming community.

In my opinion what Casino Robot and others are doing, perhaps not legally but by definition is fraud and any casinos continuing to work with them once this information is disclosed should be tarred with the same brush as the "streamers" leading the façade.

/Rant Over!
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Well said :)

 
You can see which streamers that are playing with free/fake money pretty easily. 
The reactions, the insane balances and their crazy bets is not authentic. 

I mean, it's harmful for the community but in the end people will see through it and stop watching them.

And my honest opinion is that it's NOT fun too watch a streamer with 5-50k EURO balance betting insane amounts because it gets so unreal and most of us can't relate to that kind of money in gambling.

It is more fun too watch REAL streamers like Kim, Nick & Slotsspinner betting HIGH amounts sometime because the amounts are not crazy high and unrealistic. And most of us can relate to bet a 3-5 euro bet. 

The problem is the small-balance-fakers, how do we see through them? If you are not playing for your own money (or atleast with some of your real money and a bonus) then you shouldn't be streaming at all. Because that gets misleading for the viewers. 

Thats just my opinon. Ban the fakers and prospect! 

 
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I can understand your point of view , dont know if i seen fake streamers. But this post is a bit strange. 

What is real and What is fake? The fake streamers play slots, if they get payed as u claim from a casino for showcasing that casino putting in hours to stream, why shouldnt they get payed for working? Seems to me they got hell of a better deal then you? Not risking there own money and getting payed seems like the best deal ever. After Reading some posts on different forums here at casinogrounds  people here are convinced that the casino themself cant influence the outcome of the game, according to the people with theory and conviction its the game provider that controls the outcome. 
So in otherwords they have the same chance as you to win? 
To boil it all down, you shouldnt bash the streamers but the casinos.
Fake streamers are a bad way of putting it.
You get payed from Twitch , youtube, ? 
And how do we dont know you are getting payed from casumo directly ?
Problems with trust is when people are affiliated over all. For me i dont care if you play with your own money "wich im guessing coming from twitch, youtube, casumo, hard work, and luck" or a guy who hets his money from casino directly and play with "fake" money in the end it for me boils down to the same fact, you both get payed to press a button to get more players to whatever casino you represent. Im not affiliated with any casino, but im "VIP" with many sites for whatever thats worth. And as i mentioned in another post im intriged over the wins the streamers are making. I play alot and by that i mean alot, but the hits some streamers do week after week amazes me. So for me the fisk for you all is to make money if u bet your own money or with bonus money or with fake money doesnt really bother me. For me the chances that Kim gets saved 4xtimes from book of dead is in my books unrealistic. But im still happy for him and wouldnt call him a fake streamer. Even if we cant be sure hes getting monthly payment or not" i hope u get that and that its good"

this is just My personal opinion feel free to bash:)

 
Lokus said:
The fake streamers play slots, if they get payed as u claim from a casino for showcasing that casino putting in hours to stream, why shouldnt they get payed for working? Seems to me they got hell of a better deal then you? Not risking there own money and getting payed seems like the best deal ever.
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You think its okay to lie to all of your viewers about playing real money when you're not, while telling them to go and deposit their money on his links? Is that what you think is "a better deal" or "best deal ever" ?

 
And in What world doesnt "the real streamers" do? Make money with there links" and special offers" and twitch and youtube" have i seen your bankstatements proving your not getting monthly payments from the casino you represent?

when it comes to make money on a lie real or fake streamers both make money on a well built lie , the fraud of making Quick money from gambling is a huge lie. 

 
I don't see the problem with this.

None of the streamers I watch tries to make people think that they are gonna make a shitload of money on gambling, and let's take letsgiveitaspin as an example, he's promoting leovegas, I've heard him multiple times on stream saying that all in all he is not in profit on leovegas. 

So he's honest about the fact that you're probably not gonna profit on gambling, and yes, he probably get's a cut of the people that registers through his link's, and what do we get in return? Better signup deals, win win situation for both parts, I'm happy to support the streamers I watch by registering with their links. 

And it's totally up to you, don't want to support the streamer? Don't want to get a better signup deal? Ok, then dont register through their links, simple as that. 

 
Would be intresting to ser hes overall -+ balance since he does made some bigger withdrawls and hes own money is like ususlly 2500kr match bonus on top. 

If he looses offstream its hes choice but hes streams must be close to +- 0 wich is remarkable good. Not to say impossible for most of us.

 
Lokus said:
And in What world doesnt "the real streamers" do? Make money with there links" and special offers" and twitch and youtube" have i seen your bankstatements proving your not getting monthly payments from the casino you represent?

when it comes to make money on a lie real or fake streamers both make money on a well built lie , the fraud of making Quick money from gambling is a huge lie. 
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The difference is that the genuine streamer risks their own money (with or without special offers) to get affiliate monies whilst the fake streamer doesn't.

That is besides the point of the ethics of a casino allowing or even instigating it.

I stream with real money and have an affiliate link. If I were to do this stuff for a living, some months there would be no bread on the table.

 
True , but isnt that your own choice ?to gamble with your own money? 

And the ethically thing isnt that crap either u fake stream or " real" stream, to get people hooked on gambling to your affiliate casino ?

 
Lokus said:
True , but isnt that your own choice ?to gamble with your own money? 

And the ethically thing isnt that crap either u fake stream or " real" stream, to get people hooked on gambling to your affiliate casino ?
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I primarily stream to show my slot play and any affiliate revenues (which vary from month to month and are never guaranteed) help me to continue that play. As I said, I would not be able to make a living off the back of it, hence I have a good paying job and see this streaming malarkey as a hobby.

Each and every viewer watching is (or rather is supposed to be as my stream is marked as 18+) an adult and can therefore make an adult decision to decide to sign up at the casino that I happen to stream at. Casinos have responsible gambling tools available to control the spend on this hobby or even to take a break from this hobby for a period of time.

 
The thing about the fake streamers especially the multilotto streamers is that they always have a huge balance and do really high bets, often this causes more entertainment value so people will watch them instead of watching people that spends their own money that they actually worked for, and then they sit there and lie about it all being real money when the truth is it's not, I just think it's wrong.

And if they manage to profit when doing these huge bet's I think it gives people a wrong image about gambling in general, and it's all based of a lie, why would you support people that lie to you 

 
Dooh.. Just watch Roshteins latest vod on youtube and you see clearly that he is showing the cashout ON STREAM of 10k€  He also showed his REAL NAME! So you trolls that yells FAKE, just stop it  :)    I'm not a big fan of MultiLotto either, but i like Roshtein :)  

 
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