RNG in Evolution Gaming Wheel Games

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Where can I read the official statements? Can anybody link these, I am interested, what Evolution Gamings description is of not motorized, maybe because a real life host spins the wheels it is not considered motorized. Would be interesting to read into. 

I have also seen that hosts are often looking at a screen or anything when they release the spin, sometimes adding 0 power to the spin and sometimes they panicly give it a 2th push after they have released it. Almost as if they are trying to match the speed of the wheel with something. 

 
RJ- said:
I have also seen that hosts are often looking at a screen or anything when they release the spin, sometimes adding 0 power to the spin and sometimes they panicly give it a 2th push after they have released it. Almost as if they are trying to match the speed of the wheel with something. 
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to eliminate hosts aiming the wheel, an monitor tells them the timeframe to let go and spin soft/medium/hard which is controlled by RNG. (this is what i heard, i believe this is how it works)|

Due to that, a host never gets to choose how to spin, making the spin sequence random aswell

 
Thanks, an interesting fact that clarifies the question!

But then I disagree on your statement it is not RNG based, but just a wheel with numbers and bonus segments. 

An interesting topic it will always be, Money Wheels. 

 
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RJ- said:
Thanks, an interesting fact that clarifies the question!

But then I disagree on your statement it is not RNG based, but just a wheel with numbers and bonus segments. 

An interesting topic it will always be, Money Wheels. 
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the way of spinning is RNG, the wheel outcome is not determined by an RNG but by physical spinning (which is randomized yea, but thats not the same)

 
Slotspinner said:
to eliminate hosts aiming the wheel, an monitor tells them the timeframe to let go and spin soft/medium/hard which is controlled by RNG. (this is what i heard, i believe this is how it works)|

Due to that, a host never gets to choose how to spin, making the spin sequence random aswell
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Interesting. Where did get that info? I believe that only matches the thing that motor can make the spin look like as smooth as possible (RNG decided it to land certain number and it doesn't have to make huge breaking/boost whatever when host gave it a right speed).

I've played this game a lot as well. There are certain moments in the game you definitely see the motor keeps rolling the wheel on and on.

You've probably also seen these videos of infinitely rolling wheel without slowing down at all. Even though there wouldn't be any resistance of the flapper, it would slow down.

And yeah, there's no statement from @Evolution Gaming Officialthat is NOT motor, right?

 
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It would be interesting to see the background to the setup of the wheel. 
 

RNG would be difficult to pull off especially as spin speeds vary and you’d notice unrealistic braking or flow of the wheel to land perfectly where they it to. They already have quite an edge on most of the board being 1 or 2s and probability of landing those without RNG will be higher then bonus rounds. 
 

Just my opinion 😆

 
terror_82 said:
Interesting. Where did get that info? I believe that only matches the thing that motor can make the spin look like as smooth as possible (RNG decided it to land certain number and it doesn't have to make huge breaking/boost whatever when host gave it a right speed).

I've played this game a lot as well. There are certain moments in the game you definitely see the motor keeps rolling the wheel on and on.

You've probably also seen these videos of infinitely rolling wheel without slowing down at all. Even though there wouldn't be any resistance of the flapper, it would slow down.

And yeah, there's no statement from @Evolution Gaming Officialthat is NOT motor, right?
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I think i heard it from Kim who has talked to Evolution many times (regarding the screen telling the hosts what to do), and yes im pretty sure they deny any motors/brakes since the chat spams this conspiracy stuff all the time and the hosts tell them theres no such things

 
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I think i heard it from Kim who has talked to Evolution many times (regarding the screen telling the hosts what to do), and yes im pretty sure they deny any motors/brakes since the chat spams this conspiracy stuff all the time and the hosts tell them theres no such things
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That's still not proofing either that it doesn't have motor as you know. It's all random talks.

I remember in one session somebody asked if it's RNG and motorized and the host answered something like "everything in casino games is based on rng's".

 
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That's still not proofing either that it doesn't have motor as you know. It's all random talks.

I remember in one session somebody asked if it's RNG and motorized and the host answered something like "everything in casino games is based on rng's".
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Proof is on the accuser. If you claim it has a motor its your job to prove it, until you dont it has no motor just like it works in Court :P

 
terror_82 said:
You've probably also seen these videos of infinitely rolling wheel without slowing down at all. Even though there wouldn't be any resistance of the flapper, it would slow down.
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You watched it for an infinite amount of time with your tachometer out did you?

Those wheels will spin for ages as they are heavy and run on bearings if the flapper isn't directly slowing it.

How can you say it is an infinitely rolling wheel, wtf?

 
terror_82 said:
I remember in one session somebody asked if it's RNG and motorized and the host answered something like "everything in casino games is based on rng's".
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It is because everyone has the term RNG twisted up with the word random.

If I do something that is random, I will attribute it to RNG, but its not the result of a random number generator, it is just the result of randomness. Because we all play slots, which do indeed use RNG (random number generators), and watch streamers saying "RNG" all day - when we go to something like Roulette, which has no RNG (random number generator) we will still be saying we won/lost due to RNG. 

Live Blackjack is not based on RNG, it has no random number generator, the shuffle randomises the cards but it has nothing to do with RNG - but when we lose we think: RNG. 

live punto/baccarat, live roulette, these games are random but nothing to do with RNG.

The roulette wheel's outcome is not determined by a Random number generator, a roulette wheel IS a 0-36 Random number generator.

 
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Here is an official statement by Todd, Chief Product Officer at Evolution Gaming, responsible for the Monopoly Wheel game, about RNGs, starts at 37 seconds into the video.
 



p.s. usually I tend to stay out of threads about Covid, the Twin Towers and Revolution Gaming.
Just having some fun with Dirtystacks.

 
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2 hours ago, vanHooff said:

Here is an official statement by Todd, Chief Product Officer at Evolution Gaming, responsible for the Monopoly Wheel game, about RNGs, starts at 37 seconds into the video.
 

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Nice! Thanks for the video.

I may be stupid, but how should I understand that: Multiple RNGs that are physical, like dice and a wheel? 🙃

 
terror_82 said:
Nice! Thanks for the video.

I may be stupid, but how should I understand that: Multiple RNGs that are physical, like dice and a wheel? 🙃
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Dice and wheels are random number generators of numbers within a specific range. They ARE random number generators, their outcome is not determined BY a random number generator.

I don't know if that makes sense to anyone else? A spin of roulette is the birth of a random number- there is no random number generator prior to that particular spin, unless you want to look at the entirety of history, all the way back to the big bang, prior to that spin as some kind of massively long winded, random number generator. Perhaps our universe was born because god rolled snake eyes.

They generate a random number via all the variables that going into the physical act of spinning, bouncing about, colliding, physics, temperature, resistance, etc etc.

The RNG that most people think of when talking about slots and gambling is an algorithm which generates a random number via software.

 
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dirtystack said:
Dice and wheels are random number generators of numbers within a specific range. They ARE random number generators, their outcome is not determined BY a random number generator.

They generate a random number via all the variables that going into the physical act of spinning, bouncing about, colliding, physics, temperature, resistance, etc etc.

The RNG that most people think of when talking about slots and gambling is an algorithm which generates a random number via software.
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Yes, I know what is rng and how it's designed. I just haven't heard the term "physical rng".

I'm still skeptical. I'm playing this game a lot, and the wheel behaves really really weird. I was absolutely sure, that it's computer and rng based and I thought everybody else thinks that way too. Any more videos behind the scenes (behind the wheel!)?

 
If you want to hit big, play when there are under 1500 people. Every big (99% of them) hit is in the morning time, a bit suspicious..

 
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kenanth said:
If you want to hit big, play when there are under 1500 people. Every big (99% of them) hit is in the morning time, a bit suspicious..
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All of them are in the morning, all of them are in the night, all of them are at midday- your statement is somewhat correct as it is always morning somewhere in the world.

Saying that 99% of them happen in the morning using your timezone, well, that is just pulling a number out of your ass, at best widely exaggerating, at worst; lying to make a point. 

Don't lie to make a point, it discredits you.

 
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