This is why I never take bonus 7,5 k euro lost

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Slotspinner said:
They do have a rather weird and long list of games you need to avoid with bonus funds,which is definitely not the greatest place to take a deposit bonus.

yet its the same everywhere : the player has to make sure to read the bonus rules and follow them and unless something changes it will always be this way 
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Yet here alot of streamers magicly do not have to adhere to these rules. They can buy bonuses as much as they want with there deposit bonusses. Again all of you are creating a false sense of reality and should be regulated and/or banned.

 
NickG said:
Yet here alot of streamers magicly do not have to adhere to these rules. They can buy bonuses as much as they want with there deposit bonusses. Again all of you are creating a false sense of reality and should be regulated and/or banned.
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Constantly mentioning that this is not the norm and shoudlnt be seen as such, so totally disagree.

 
Slotspinner said:
Constantly mentioning that this is not the norm and shoudlnt be seen as such, so totally disagree.
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Your one of the few then. If only all of the streamers would have to do this but it's all up to the streamers. There need to be some form of regulation.

 
NickG said:
Your one of the few then. If only all of the streamers would have to do this but it's all up to the streamers. There need to be some form of regulation.
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The problem is that people do things before informing themselves etc etc. i take really heavy care to explain that normal gameplay doesnt include streamer bonuses or special bonus terms and all such. Streams as personally we do them today on my channel just arent possible 5-6 times (twice a day) per week without these conditions. I honestly stress this alot, and some people will still go ahead without reading terms or information, leading to these troubles. 

It IS a combination of casino regulations not tight enough regarding bonus rules, and blocking wrong plays as in restricted slots or too high stakes. optimally every casino would be forced to prohibit playing those games/stakes with bonus balance so that the terms cannot be broken but unfortunately this is far from reality at the moment. I get where you are coming from, but this is what it is as of now!

I think its a neverending story of this kind, but i try to inform people as much as possible when they ask questions or when i do something like bonus buys on bonus balance. The best advice to everyone is to always read bonus terms in full and know what you can or cant do, wherever you take bonuses

 
Slotspinner said:
The problem is that people do things before informing themselves etc etc. i take really heavy care to explain that normal gameplay doesnt include streamer bonuses or special bonus terms and all such. Streams as personally we do them today on my channel just arent possible 5-6 times (twice a day) per week without these conditions. I honestly stress this alot, and some people will still go ahead without reading terms or information, leading to these troubles. 

It IS a combination of casino regulations not tight enough regarding bonus rules, and blocking wrong plays as in restricted slots or too high stakes. optimally every casino would be forced to prohibit playing those games/stakes with bonus balance so that the terms cannot be broken but unfortunately this is far from reality at the moment. I get where you are coming from, but this is what it is as of now!

I think its a neverending story of this kind, but i try to inform people as much as possible when they ask questions or when i do something like bonus buys on bonus balance. The best advice to everyone is to always read bonus terms in full and know what you can or cant do, wherever you take bonuses
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It is neverending story but until the regulations are in place in my opinion streamers (espec. popular ones with a big viewing) should take the responsibility to inform there watchers. People don't read small print and they probaly never will. Why this is the case is beyond my understanding but i'm pretty sure we can find some research papers on the subject. 

Respect for informing your viewers though. That's taking your responsibility imo.

 
explorer said:
Royal Panda has 3 non-sticky redeposit bonuses a week right now (Wednesdays, Fridays, and for now, Sundays), so I feel no need to take any deposit bonuses with new casinos. And you never have to worry about playing the wrong games or max stake when wagering, since all wagering has to be done with cash. I couldn't recommend them more highly.
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I loathe the Royal Panda bonus, Yeah it's great if you hit a big win in the raw cash and can cancel the bonus but once you drop quickly into the bonus balance you are Royally fucked, I was watching Desity last week and she did a €500 deposit with €500 bonus, She literally just dropped into the bonus and hit (can't remember the exact numbers) a €2.2k win i think, bringing her balance to €2.7k, She deposited €3k to wager with real cash and had a brutal session, She hit nothing and ripped the €3k in no time, Deposited another €500 RIPPED that too, Another €500, RIPPED that and a final €500, she then managed to get a few wins to avoid another deposit but by the time she finished wagering it was a €3k cashout (2k loss) Re-deposting 4.5k to cash out a 2.2k win is insane, but once you start you have no choice but to finish otherwise you're just throwing money away.

With these sort of bonuses it's hard to figure out what the worse case scenario is, Yeah you can see how much you still need to wager but it's impossible to come up with a realistic figure if you have a lot of wagering still to do, Whereas a standard deposit bonus you know the worse case scenario is the original deposit is lost if you can't beat the wagering.

 
siggy said:
I loathe the Royal Panda bonus, Yeah it's great if you hit a big win in the raw cash and can cancel the bonus but once you drop quickly into the bonus balance you are Royally fucked, I was watching Desity last week and she did a €500 deposit with €500 bonus, She literally just dropped into the bonus and hit (can't remember the exact numbers) a €2.2k win i think, bringing her balance to €2.7k, She deposited €3k to wager with real cash and had a brutal session, She hit nothing and ripped the €3k in no time, Deposited another €500 RIPPED that too, Another €500, RIPPED that and a final €500, she then managed to get a few wins to avoid another deposit but by the time she finished wagering it was a €3k cashout (2k loss) Re-deposting 4.5k to cash out a 2.2k win is insane, but once you start you have no choice but to finish otherwise you're just throwing money away.

With these sort of bonuses it's hard to figure out what the worse case scenario is, Yeah you can see how much you still need to wager but it's impossible to come up with a realistic figure if you have a lot of wagering still to do, Whereas a standard deposit bonus you know the worse case scenario is the original deposit is lost if you can't beat the wagering.
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Yeah, everyone has their own preferences. I think I saw that stream, and I've definitely lost big going after a Royal Panda bonus too, but I consider that money that would've been lost somewhere else anyway. And since you wager with cash, if you really wanted to, you could high roll Blood Suckers or something and crush the wagering that way. (obviously no guarantees) Max bet in the bonus balance is €7 too, which is much better than average.

 
siggy said:
I loathe the Royal Panda bonus, Yeah it's great if you hit a big win in the raw cash and can cancel the bonus but once you drop quickly into the bonus balance you are Royally fucked, I was watching Desity last week and she did a €500 deposit with €500 bonus, She literally just dropped into the bonus and hit (can't remember the exact numbers) a €2.2k win i think, bringing her balance to €2.7k, She deposited €3k to wager with real cash and had a brutal session, She hit nothing and ripped the €3k in no time, Deposited another €500 RIPPED that too, Another €500, RIPPED that and a final €500, she then managed to get a few wins to avoid another deposit but by the time she finished wagering it was a €3k cashout (2k loss) Re-deposting 4.5k to cash out a 2.2k win is insane, but once you start you have no choice but to finish otherwise you're just throwing money away.

With these sort of bonuses it's hard to figure out what the worse case scenario is, Yeah you can see how much you still need to wager but it's impossible to come up with a realistic figure if you have a lot of wagering still to do, Whereas a standard deposit bonus you know the worse case scenario is the original deposit is lost if you can't beat the wagering.
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Royalpanda bonus is one of the best available in longterm though, if you dont like that risk you just try to bring that bonus balance up so high, that you cannot lose even with very cold runs

 
Yeah I hate bonus too but some Bonusses non sticky bonusses from betsson Betsafe Wildz and caxino is very good and you can every game with this bonusses 

 
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