Push Gaming - Over 100k EURO lost on Jamming Jars

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Hey Guys

I'm pretty sure you see this title all the time. But honestly I don't know what else to say about the provider. Heres a little background.

I'm Btmarketmod on bitcointalk.org and I have a thread there where I've lost over 200,000 euro in 3 months on Bitcasino.io playing mostly Push Gaming slots.

The game I've played the most is Jamming Jars. So after losing around 120,000 EURO on this slot playing 20 - 40 euro bets I decided to start playing smaller bets and making smaller deposits to bitcasino. Finally after about 2 months of constantly playing Jamming jars I hit my first 1200x on a 6 euro bet. Since hitting the win I've lost back over 25,000 euro on the slot playing 2 to 4 euro bets in just 2 weeks. 

How is that possible? Over 10k spins on the slot and every single bonus I've gotten has been 30x max. I've contacted push gaming and they assured me that the casino cannot limit slot wins for players, but I'm 100% sure their algorithm makes sure that a player will lose more than what his won if he hits something decent. 

I completely understand that the game has high variance but come on, 10,000 spins later and not a single 100x win even with 4 jars at the start of free spins with 5x+ multipliers each? 

I have countless videos of dead bonuses on this slot. Just today I lost 5000 euro playing 4 euro bets, over 1000 spins, DIDN'T RECEIVE A SINGLE BONUS. As soon as my balance dropped to below 50 euro and I started playing 1 euro bets I get the bonus 3 times in a row with 7x, 15x and 2x wins. 

Clearly Push Gaming has some sort of player tracking implemented and they will make sure that a player will lose 100x what they have won in the long run. 

Another example, I played 100 auto spins at 6 euro stake, out of the entire 100 spins I only hit 4 winning spins. How is that possible? 4 wins out of 100 spins??? 

I've seen countless videos of people winning 10000x on 2 - 6 euro stakes, I can't even get a 2000x win after dumping almost 150,000 EURO into this slot? 

When I ask them for game rounds and RTP's the answer is always the same "THE RTP IS 100% CORRECT AND WE COULD NOT FIND ANY FOUL PLAY"... Really? If you play a slot and lost 2000 spins with maximum wins of 10x how can the RTP be 95% + ?

Be warned guys. You will get burned on Jamming jars or any other Push Gaming slot.

 
if the game can pay you 19000x , just imagine what it can take.
And not only this, therell also be 18000x 17000x 15000x 11000x 10000x etc etc.
It is maximum volatile game and losing 4-6000x your stake on this game is quite doable (regarding the 120k loss on 20-40 euro spins)

 
Slotspinner said:
if the game can pay you 19000x , just imagine what it can take.
And not only this, therell also be 18000x 17000x 15000x 11000x 10000x etc etc.
It is maximum volatile game and losing 4-6000x your stake on this game is quite doable (regarding the 120k loss on 20-40 euro spins)
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My point is the game stopped paying me in free spins or any of the base games after my 1000x hit. Even though I lost 120k on the slot before winning a measly 8700 euro back on a 6 euro bet. That win was 3 weeks ago. Since that win I've had to play 500+ spins just to get free spins and when I do its a 3x or 10x bonus every single time. I've probably hit around 15 bonuses on this slot since my 8700 euro win. Thats thousands and thousands of spins. Well over 10,000 maybe even 15k. 

I could load up my balance with 20k euro and play 1 euro bets for 20k spins and I can assure you that the game will not pay me. It will take the entire 20k euro balance.

 
btmarketmod said:
Be warned guys. You will get burned on Jamming jars or any other Push Gaming slot.
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Be warned buddy, you will burn money in each and every slot in the long term - you know that. The provider doesn't matter...

Overthink your betting size and what your capable of losing. I'm reading your text above like an horror-book.

 
btmarketmod said:
My point is the game stopped paying me in free spins or any of the base games after my 1000x hit. Even though I lost 120k on the slot before winning a measly 8700 euro back on a 6 euro bet. That win was 3 weeks ago. Since that win I've had to play 500+ spins just to get free spins and when I do its a 3x or 10x bonus every single time. I've probably hit around 15 bonuses on this slot since my 8700 euro win. Thats thousands and thousands of spins. Well over 10,000 maybe even 15k. 

I could load up my balance with 20k euro and play 1 euro bets for 20k spins and I can assure you that the game will not pay me. It will take the entire 20k euro balance.
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Bro i feel you, when it came out i played it all the time ripping for 5 months straight. Then i got a 1000x, few months later 1000x, and then desi on my stream got a 5000x so then i was happy with the game after all :D

 
Slotspinner said:
Bro i feel you, when it came out i played it all the time ripping for 5 months straight. Then i got a 1000x, few months later 1000x, and then desi on my stream got a 5000x so then i was happy with the game after all :D
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I know man I watched both those streams :) Honestly like your stream always watching whenever you go live. Unfortunately I have had no luck on this slot since I started playing on it 4 months ago. Biggest win is 1200x and it happened only once. Since then I've dropped 120k EURO on it. Today brings the total to 128,000 EURO. It just wont stop eating up my balance. Can't understand how I can't just get lucky once.

 
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btmarketmod said:
I know man I watched both those streams :) Honestly like your stream always watching whenever you go live. Unfortunately I have had no luck on this slot since I started playing on it 4 months ago. Biggest win is 1200x and it happened only once. Since then I've dropped 120k EURO on it. Today brings the total to 128,000 EURO. It just wont stop eating up my balance. Can't understand how I can't just get lucky once.
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its one of the harshest games out there, maybe you also know i have pumped tenthousands in queen of riches and get fuck all back on mostly 4 euro spins :D

 
Slotspinner said:
its one of the harshest games out there, maybe you also know i have pumped tenthousands in queen of riches and get fuck all back on mostly 4 euro spins :D
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Yeah I saw that its really sad. I was telling my account manager that the amount I lost in bitcasino in just 4 months could have bought me a brand new Ferrari or a Lambo. Over 400k EURO down the drain. 

 
btmarketmod said:
Yeah I saw that its really sad. I was telling my account manager that the amount I lost in bitcasino in just 4 months could have bought me a brand new Ferrari or a Lambo. Over 400k EURO down the drain. 
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Maybe better to stop gambling then unless you have millions of millions behind mate, rather invest that stuff

 
I've played a lot on high bets also. Not that much on jammin jars though.

It is obvious that on most slots max betting doesn't get you big wins (on the 100eu bets max winning was 241x). Most of the people winning over a 1000x on slots is with low bet sizes. I've tried it myself a while (bet size from 0,10-1eu bets), got way better/more bonuses as on high bets. Just boring as hell. And I don't believe in coincidence, that is what they try to make you believe.

As a high roller it is imo better to play live table games or get into sports gambling (i.e.; on simple CL matches, betting on 3 matches, you can get up to 10x with a "safe" strategy). Just figure out on what sites you can place high bets, works way better as slots in the long term. Slots are just short term.

 
Never going to be in control of your life if you don't take responsibility for it.

 
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It's like losing £1200 at £0.40 betsize 

Doesn't seem so crazy, I'd expect it to last 7000 to 10 000 spins if I didn't hit a 1000x or higher win.

Going 7000-10 000 spins without hitting a 1000x win doesn't seem unusual.

Even 14000 - 20 000 spins without hitting 1000x doesn't seem unreasonable.

The math in the game is not influenced by what you are betting, it just knows whether or not there is an input telling it to RNG to which it sends an output which is the multiplier. It doesn't care about the originating figure that the multiplier will be applied too.

Doesn't matter how many times that is said, everyone just believes the BS they convince themselves of.

If you want to know the truth get a job at a slot provider, become a technician, they will train you and, based on my interactions, anyone can do it. It's not a big hush hush secret society, they hate their jobs as much as the everyone else and would be all too happy to spill the beans over a pint.

 
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