Roshtein practise mode is the same balance as real mode?

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Why do people put so much emphasis on deposits? It proves zilch. Can't believe people think it's some god given proof of anything.

Look, if you and the casino you are playing in are teaming up with malicious intent, the casino can put up the money for you to play with in any platform you want.  You agree with the casino on this arrangement beforehand. Win/lose, it isn't your money.  You keep the affiliate money. Besides that affiliate money, other than your spent time THERE IS NO INVESTMENT OF ANY KIND FOR YOU.

Besides, is this actually a serious discussion? Are we pretending that it's an actual discussion item that some clown isn't digging a 500k hole a month out of his own pocket streaming casino with 50€ spins on the regular, while posting afflinks and links so you can buy his goddamn coffee mug? I mean goddamn. I understand if you feel he is entertaining and all but seriously? Can't believe some of you people.

 
asmeister said:
Why do people put so much emphasis on deposits? It proves zilch. Can't believe people think it's some god given proof of anything.

Look, if you and the casino you are playing in are teaming up with malicious intent, the casino can put up the money for you to play with in any platform you want.  You agree with the casino on this arrangement beforehand. Win/lose, it isn't your money.  You keep the affiliate money. Besides that affiliate money, other than your spent time THERE IS NO INVESTMENT OF ANY KIND FOR YOU.

Besides, is this actually a serious discussion? Are we pretending that it's an actual discussion item that some clown isn't digging a 500k hole a month out of his own pocket streaming casino with 50€ spins on the regular, while posting afflinks and links so you can buy his goddamn coffee mug? I mean goddamn. I understand if you feel he is entertaining and all but seriously? Can't believe some of you people.
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There is no way he is digging 500k out of his pocket a month. He is profiting due to the incredible bonus he is receiving. He does 2k deposits and get's 8k bonus.

 
DanishDaniel said:
There is no way he is digging 500k out of his pocket a month. He is profiting due to the incredible bonus he is receiving. He does 2k deposits and get's 8k bonus.
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there's little way he is digging anything out of his pocket. Look, if you enjoy watching the guy that's all fine and dandy, I'm not here to judge that.

That dude is fake as hell, and to me it's always been pretty incredible that anyone would believe otherwise.

 
asmeister said:
there's little way he is digging anything out of his pocket. Look, if you enjoy watching the guy that's all fine and dandy, I'm not here to judge that.

That dude is fake as hell, and to me it's always been pretty incredible that anyone would believe otherwise.
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If it's so obvious, I just don't see why there isn't one good evidence proving it?

 
If you want to be a cultist like person that believes in faerie magic and some guy being a philantropic gambling millionaire posting afflinks and e-shops with his printed coffee mugs you just go right ahead

to be honest this "discussion" is so dumb I feel shame in participating, it really is the equivalent of talking to an elvis death conspiracy theorist

 
asmeister said:
If you want to be a cultist like person that believes in faerie magic and some guy being a philantropic gambling millionaire posting afflinks and e-shops with his printed coffee mugs you just go right ahead

to be honest this "discussion" is so dumb I feel shame in participating, it really is the equivalent of talking to an elvis death conspiracy theorist
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You keep talking down to me, instead of just proving that you're right, why?

If you do the math, he is profiting long term on gambling due to his bonuses. What's suspicious here is that he can get such bonuses, something is sketchy about N1 more than Roshstein. It doesn' t seem like an honest site.

 
DanishDaniel said:
You keep talking down to me, instead of just proving that you're right, why?

If you do the math, he is profiting long term on gambling due to his bonuses. What's suspicious here is that he can get such bonuses, something is sketchy about N1 more than Roshstein. It doesn' t seem like an honest site.
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You are saying" It doesn' t seem like an honest site." Still they give Rosh these bonuses and he accepts them, why would they do that? Do you think all players can get those bonuses? How's your math? ;)   Some banter here, take this the right way, but I wanted to make a point. Dodgy casinos doesn't give money away like that, it's the other way around really.

 
the_68 said:
You are saying" It doesn' t seem like an honest site." Still they give Rosh these bonuses and he accepts them, why would they do that? Do you think all players can get those bonuses? How's your math? ;)   Some banter here, take this the right way, but I wanted to make a point. Dodgy casinos doesn't give money away like that, it's the other way around really.
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Yeah? If they have a good relationship with Roshtein and their other streamers, they will talk positively about them and get them, new players.

If they are either rigging their games or refusing withdrawals for other players, it won't directly affect the streamers. 

It seems like they are doing something to improve the RTP for their advantage, allowing them to spend more money on customer acquisition than other casino's.

 
DanishDaniel said:
Yeah? If they have a good relationship with Roshtein and their other streamers, they will talk positively about them and get them, new players.

If they are either rigging their games or refusing withdrawals for other players, it won't directly affect the streamers. 

It seems like they are doing something to improve the RTP for their advantage, allowing them to spend more money on customer acquisition than other casino's.
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If you agree to those terms, I say if, then your are as sketchy as the casinos providing these bonuses, or free money.  

 
 If he makes real money using fake money then he's probably smarter than most casinostreamers out there. Nothing wrong with it imo. He just does the exact same as everyone else in this stupid business - using the casino's money to generate even more money for both - the casino and the streamer. 

 
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If you agree to those terms, I say if, then your are as sketchy as the casinos providing these bonuses, or free money.  
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For sure, if you KNOW that they are doing that. I just think the evidence shown is more indicating that N1 is sketchy than Roshtein.

Roshtein may or may not know, it's hard to say and it's really just guessing. It's big business, and a lot of money is being handled. The money that Roshtein is earning is quite low compared to all the other money being made in the industry, and since he is so big compared to other streamers it's just hard. If we look at other streamers with 20k viewers, they can earn up to $10k an hour for streaming sponsored games. To think that a casino streamer vs a gaming streamer wouldn't be able to make at least the same on sponsored content doesn't seem right.

 
DanishDaniel said:
For sure, if you KNOW that they are doing that. I just think the evidence shown is more indicating that N1 is sketchy than Roshtein.

Roshtein may or may not know, it's hard to say and it's really just guessing. It's big business, and a lot of money is being handled. The money that Roshtein is earning is quite low compared to all the other money being made in the industry, and since he is so big compared to other streamers it's just hard. If we look at other streamers with 20k viewers, they can earn up to $10k an hour for streaming sponsored games. To think that a casino streamer vs a gaming streamer wouldn't be able to make at least the same on sponsored content doesn't seem right.
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Sure, 20k REAL viewers :)  Not so sure that's the case here.  ;)  

 
the_68 said:
Sure, 20k REAL viewers :)  Not so sure that's the case here.  ;)  
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I should've gone by average. The 20k numbers are only when something crazy is happening. His average is just below 10k, which is still great. 

But why do you think it should be view botting? Looking at the graph of growth in average viewers, it really doesn't stand out.

 
DanishDaniel said:
I should've gone by average. The 20k numbers are only when something crazy is happening. His average is just below 10k, which is still great. 

But why do you think it should be view botting? Looking at the graph of growth in average viewers, it really doesn't stand out.
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Heard about things pointing in that direction. There are ways to check stuff like that as well. For example if a streamer has many viewers with very random names and they only have followed for like 20 minutes....But heard other things too. But since it not 100%, only 99, I won't take this further :)  

 
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the_68 said:
Heard about things pointing in that direction. There are ways to check stuff like that as well. For example if a streamer has many viewers with very random names and they only has followed for like 20 minutes....But heard other things too. But since it not 100%, only 99, I won't take this further :)  
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Only things I hear people talking about is the higher follower rate which is so easy to explain.

And categorizing names as very random can also be hard, there are people like that on every stream. But as I mentioned earlier, Roshstein has a way larger percentage of new viewers than other casino streamers.

 
He does repeat the process is this time real tho

If your automatically logged  out would it go to play money yes no considering this if he logged in later on and it alls fine but knowbody mentions this then i understand you dont want to see him show yu was all mostly wrong i understand this 

 
I dont know but becuase i dont know im not saying it fake or real im being fair and saying the proof that people are going on about havnt consider a fair chance of other possibilities thats just not fair on anyone becuase you could be wrong 

 
DanishDaniel said:
Only things I hear people talking about is the higher follower rate which is so easy to explain.

And categorizing names as very random can also be hard, there are people like that on every stream. But as I mentioned earlier, Roshstein has a way larger percentage of new viewers than other casino streamers.
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Yes, and since I really don't know for sure I should be more careful pointing fingers. :)

 
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You guys just waste your time here, people who think he is fake will always think that, nothing will change that. Same goes for people who think he is real/legit.

Invest your time/energy in something thats worth it. ^^

 
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