Monopoly Live Scam

[davidmoe]

“There is obviously a metal stick inside the flapper. This metal stick has now on 2 or more separate occasions protruded from the flapper itself. This could indicate that the metal stick is adjustable either by moving its position or extending/retracting it within the flapper. Allowing this function means they can choose how far down the flapper to extend the metal stick, this creates resistance where it benefits the casino, and no resistance where it benefits the casino. This instance especially is concerning as whoever is operating the metal stick has overdone it during this spin to stop it landing in the 4 rolls, making it look extremely obvious and also forcing the metal stick to protrude from the flapper.“

thoughts??

 

[Jadnici]

LOOOOL 

U know they fcked up by just seeing hosts face

Slotspinner where u at?? 

Do u need more proff after this and that 9600x 4 rolls scam or u are still on their side? 

 

[Skylined87]

Of course there's some kind of metal in the flapper as it needs to provide resistance. Above video only shows that the coating of the metal started to slide up as it was worn down. 

This could indicate that the metal stick is adjustable either by moving its position or extending/retracting it within the flapper.

No comment  

 

[Guest]

LOOOOL 

U know they fcked up by just seeing hosts face

Slotspinner where u at?? 

Do u need more proff after this and that 9600x 4 rolls scam or u are still on their side? 

Mate mate mate. Wouldn't you be on casinos side if you get paid by them to say at least. You post on a forum that is owned (51% at least) by a casino. 

 

[Skylined87]

Mate mate mate. Wouldn't you be on casinos side if you get paid by them to say at least. You post on a forum that is owned (51% at least) by a casino. 

What does that have to do with anything?

Fact is casinos will always have an edge over the players on any game, as the games are designed like that - it's called RTP. Players get 90-99% of the bets back, casinos & providers keep 10-1%, no need to rig or "scam" anyone (except for some shady curacao brands but that's another topic).

If you don't trust us then trust regulatory bodies, if they found any kind of tampering on any games, the provider would close the doors very next day and go bankrupt.

P.s. We're 51% owned by LeoVentures, not LeoVegas.

 

[Guest]

What does that have to do with anything?

Fact is casinos will always have an edge over the players on any game, as the games are designed like that - it's called RTP. Players get 90-99% of the bets back, casinos & providers keep 10-1%, no need to rig or "scam" anyone (except for some shady curacao brands but that's another topic).

If you don't trust us then trust regulatory bodies, if they found any kind of tampering on any games, the provider would close the doors very next day and go bankrupt.

P.s. We're 51% owned by LeoVentures, not LeoVegas.

There are a lot of trusted casinos that got the Curacao licence. For example bitstarz, Bitcoin casino.io, etc. Direx n.v (a quite secure and trusted owner got Curacao licences for these casinos.

The edge casinos got is based on maths not rigging. That's why the RTP exists. But it's based on millions of spins. 

Also the video we all just watch shows 2 cases of . It doesnt show cases of RTP malfunction etc.

But as other cases of there are people that say it's due to malfunction. And it's always some streamers. I'm not saying anything..everyone got their own opinion to tell. But why always them ? And if there was indeed a malfunction why didn't they all get their bets back? 

 

[Skylined87]

And it's always some streamers. I'm not saying anything..everyone got their own opinion to tell. But why always them ? And if there was indeed a malfunction why didn't they all get their bets back? 

So streamers are not entitled to do replies?

If you honestly believe that the showcased videos are "scam", feel free to contact any regulatory body or certification lab that provide overview of the game provider in question. Their response will be same as streamers or mine - the games are not rigged.

But I do agree that sometimes it really looks like it is rigged (when in reality it's not), even though I know most games inside out. All there is to it that sometimes these malfunctions are not handled in the best way, thus adding to suspicions of the players.

 

[Guest]

So streamers are not entitled to do replies?

If you honestly believe that the showcased videos are "scam", feel free to contact any regulatory body or certification lab that provide overview of the game provider in question. Their response will be same as streamers or mine - the games are not rigged.

But I do agree that sometimes it really looks like it is rigged (when in reality it's not), even though I know most games inside out. All there is to it that sometimes these malfunctions are not handled in the best way, thus adding to suspicions of the players.

As stated before streamers got also their opinions. Even though their response is the same. But the acceptance of bets by the time there is a malfunction is a cheat. No one likes to lose a 200 euro bet for a malfunctioned round. 

 

[damson95]

Hahaha, 

Evolution gaming,

What do I need to say, 

 

[Slotspinner]

@themajestic
Same thing everytime, i respond with reason and not -defend casinos at all costs-

Thats enough said from me. Bring cold hard proof of cheating or manipulation and ill gladly join the lawsuit, evolution took ALOT of money from me in lifetime

 

[Stevej]

Hahha  And there are still people who think this is not a scam...

I'm sad for two reasons.

1. I've lost few thousand euros to Evolution Gaming during these years.

2. I've supported corrupted casino business. It's sad cause probably some Mafia assholes get money from those games.

It's obvious that this game is 100% scam. And this business is corrupted. Probably all these gaming authorities are corrupted as well. They've got their money to shut up. Doesn't surprise me at all. Still fun to read this forum and find something new about Evo Gaming every week. 

Time to quit boys!

 

[olempiaps]

You have to realize at the END of the day any casino is still a operating business that is about efficiency and profit. 

Yes they don’t have the need to rig certain games because they have a profit Edge anyways. But your telling me if CEO STAN comes in a meeting with a way/idea to increase overall gross profit from 200m a year to 400m a year Even if illegal or rigging a certain game/slot to boost efficiency if they can legally Get away with it and you think they wont? 
 

then your just plain and simple stupid.

 

[Stevej]

You have to realize at the END of the day any casino is still a operating business that is about efficiency and profit. 

Yes they don’t have the need to rig certain games because they have a profit Edge anyways. But your telling me if CEO STAN comes in a meeting with a way/idea to increase overall gross profit from 200m a year to 400m a year Even if illegal or rigging a certain game/slot to boost efficiency if they can legally Get away with it and you think they wont? 
 

then your just plain and simple stupid.

Don't be naive. Everybody knows it's not about that. Your thinking is stupid and narrow minded when you say that same answer we've heard million times.

Rigging the games is not about making instant more money or not letting players to win, but making players more addicted and making them to put more money on the game. Rigging the game is controlling the game and cheating players to think it's just bad luck. For example in Monopoly, as we've talked in another thread, there are sessions almost everyday that there's no 4 rolls in 250-300 spins. That's the most clever way to control this game, because people can see the spins from last 4 rolls (they check it on tracksino.com) and keep on betting and betting on 4 rolls because they think it must hit soon. If you wanna calculate the probability that 4 rolls not appearing in 300 spins, it's (53/54)^300. I can show you some math data that tell you how many times that scenario could happen in a year. If you rig the game it can happen when ever you want.

So rigging the game is like maximizing the winnings - they get lots of players, give decent winnings every now and then and finally suck all of their money. All of this well controlled without any risk for casinos.

 

[dirtystack]

Don't be naive. Everybody knows it's not about that. Your thinking is stupid and narrow minded when you say that same answer we've heard million times.

Rigging the games is not about making instant more money or not letting players to win, but making players more addicted and making them to put more money on the game. Rigging the game is controlling the game and cheating players to think it's just bad luck. For example in Monopoly, as we've talked in another thread, there are sessions almost everyday that there's no 4 rolls in 250-300 spins. That's the most clever way to control this game, because people can see the spins from last 4 rolls (they check it on tracksino.com) and keep on betting and betting on 4 rolls because they think it must hit soon. If you wanna calculate the probability that 4 rolls not appearing in 300 spins, it's (53/54)^300. I can show you some math data that tell you how many times that scenario could happen in a year. If you rig the game it can happen when ever you want.

So rigging the game is like maximizing the winnings - they get lots of players, give decent winnings every now and then and finally suck all of their money. All of this well controlled without any risk for casinos.

I see you have revised your number down from 400 to 300.

Can you provide the "math data" please, very interested.

 

[UNUSUALCREDO]

Lol why complain about this because its obviously pre-determined. Where it lands doesnt even matter. 

Play sidebet city, better fun.

 

[NickG]

Is it rigged? Just looking at the amount of options on the wheel would tell you enough.

I have to agree though that it's pretty naive to trust companies and don't even start about regulatory bodies. It's a fact that Malta is in the top 10 countries that is corrupt on all levels, you can just buy a passport there so you can become a EU citizen all you have to show is money which is used to it's full potential by eastern europe shady business men. Brussel does not seem to care. Why would that be? Money.

History (especially last 10 years) also has more then enough proven that they will do anything for money. Just look at the so called "green energy" scam or how the ECB is handling the corona crisis in favor of the southern countries. Isn't it conveniant for france that a french woman is head of the ECB now and before her an italian?

We live in a time where the truth is always twisted in some way that benefit certain companies and individuals in pure cash. So be skeptical about anything, do your own research and come up with your own conclusions.

 

[Stevej]

Is it rigged? Just looking at the amount of options on the wheel would tell you enough.

I have to agree though that it's pretty naive to trust companies and don't even start about regulatory bodies. It's a fact that Malta is in the top 10 countries that is corrupt on all levels, you can just buy a passport there so you can become a EU citizen all you have to show is money which is used to it's full potential by eastern europe shady business men. Brussel does not seem to care. Why would that be? Money.

History (especially last 10 years) also has more then enough proven that they will do anything for money. Just look at the so called "green energy" scam or how the ECB is handling the corona crisis in favor of the southern countries. Isn't it conveniant for france that a french woman is head of the ECB now and before her an italian?

We live in a time where the truth is always twisted in some way that benefit certain companies and individuals in pure cash. So be skeptical about anything, do your own research and come up with your own conclusions.

Exactly. You nailed it.