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TechnoJoe
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Tell me this TommyBHOY - are you boycotting the Celtic with their numerous ties to betting (dafabet etc)?TommyBhoy said:
Their current sponsors include ....
Dafabet
Mr Green
Ladbrokes
Dear oh dear
Bit of a contradiction having BHOY in your name here when they HEAVILY promote gambling, and reach far more people than any casino streamer will do. What a hypocrite u are.
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HADTOCHANGE
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I put a recent post up and kind of admitted about my failings and I am with you.... I did and still do whack a 20 (sometimes a lot more) on after watching streams and videos after over 5 years not gambling at all. I am in control of gambling but at same time these videos are destructive as I now have that urge to gamble again. I keep within my means and I am torn cause these guys do need a platform but I guarantee my addiction is no where near as bad as others but people do also need to man up and take responsibility; hope their is a middle ground as after a few months there are certain streamers who are taking the piss.
HADTOCHANGE
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Ban online casinostreaming
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@TechnoJoeIt was banned over 10 years ago children football replica shirts are not allowed to have gambling advertising/content on them.
Also if TV gambling advertising isnt allowed until after 9pm why do we have streamers putting up live gambling content during the day ? just not acceptable.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-473951/Gambling-sponsors-erased-childrens-replica-football-shirts.html
Ban online casinostreaming
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Please see a reply from the UK Gambling commission, If you have a issue and want to log a complaint about the streamers please do so using the information below.
Also a interesting read on tighter affiliate regulations coming into affect so things are moving forward but please get involved.
[SIZE=12pt]Affiliate Marketing[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=11pt]You have also expressed concerns regarding gambling advertisements, particular those relating to affiliate marketing. You believe that the frequency of advertisements across media platforms is having a negative impact and is targeting vulnerable people.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=11pt]Regulations governing gambling marketing and advertising are shared between a number of bodies, including the Commission, Ofcom, the Committees of Advertising Practice (CAP), the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) and the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO). In order to have some consistency and to avoid confusion, we work with these other bodies on the basis that whereas we lead primarily on the regulation of gambling, other bodies lead on marketing and advertising.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=11pt]The [/SIZE]Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) is the UK’s independent regulator of advertising. If you have a concerns regarding gambling advertisements online you should visit the ASA website and complain to them directly. They have a complaint form on their web-site herehttps://www.asa.org.uk/Consumers/How-to-complain.aspx. They also have further information on how to protect children from targeting advertisements online on their website, herehttps://www.asa.org.uk/news/protect...uidance-to-support-responsible-targeting.html. If serious or repeated breaches of the codes occur, the ASA may refer licence holders to the Gambling Commission or Ofcom.
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[SIZE=11pt]Furthermore if you believe that a licence holder is carrying out marketing activity that contravenes the industry code of practice on advertising you could also contact the Remote Gambling Association, who chair the Review Group for Socially Responsible Advertising. We have provided their link to their web-site below:[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=11pt]http://argo.org.uk/http://argo.org.uk/[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=11pt]More recently, as regulatory pressure builds from the Gambling Commission, Advertising Standards Authority and Information Commissioners Office, a new trade body for affiliates is to be established: the International Gaming Affiliate Association (IGAA).
A group of leading affiliates and gaming legal experts are setting up the trade body to help the affiliate sector tackle the increasing regulatory scrutiny it is facing.
The new body, to be named the International Gaming Affiliate Association (iGAA), aims to establish a code of practice to ensure affiliates are promoting gambling in a responsible way and acting in compliance with all local laws.
Further articles relating to this are below:[/SIZE]
https://calvinayre.com/2017/09/16/business/igaming-affiliates-circle-wagons-arrows-fly/https://calvinayre.com/2017/09/16/business/igaming-affiliates-circle-wagons-arrows-fly/
[SIZE=11pt]https://www.gamblinginsider.com/trafficology/pdf/trafficology-2017-august.pdfhttps://www.gamblinginsider.com/trafficology/pdf/trafficology-2017-august.pdf[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=11pt]We hope that we have responded to all your questions and provided you with reassurance that we will continue to look at ways to make gambling fairer and safer for all.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=11pt]We would like to take this opportunity to thank you for bring your concerns to our attention. We rely on consumers sharing their experiences in order to provide a valuable insight into the industry and to help drive improvements going forward. The information that we gather forms part of the dialogue that we have in a wider arena including with both operators and our DCMS.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=11pt]You can also [/SIZE]raise the matters yourself with the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sporthttps://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/department-for-digital-culture-media-sport (DCMS) or your local Member of Parliament (MP).
Also a interesting read on tighter affiliate regulations coming into affect so things are moving forward but please get involved.
[SIZE=12pt]Affiliate Marketing[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]You have also expressed concerns regarding gambling advertisements, particular those relating to affiliate marketing. You believe that the frequency of advertisements across media platforms is having a negative impact and is targeting vulnerable people.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Regulations governing gambling marketing and advertising are shared between a number of bodies, including the Commission, Ofcom, the Committees of Advertising Practice (CAP), the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) and the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO). In order to have some consistency and to avoid confusion, we work with these other bodies on the basis that whereas we lead primarily on the regulation of gambling, other bodies lead on marketing and advertising.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]The [/SIZE]Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) is the UK’s independent regulator of advertising. If you have a concerns regarding gambling advertisements online you should visit the ASA website and complain to them directly. They have a complaint form on their web-site herehttps://www.asa.org.uk/Consumers/How-to-complain.aspx. They also have further information on how to protect children from targeting advertisements online on their website, herehttps://www.asa.org.uk/news/protect...uidance-to-support-responsible-targeting.html. If serious or repeated breaches of the codes occur, the ASA may refer licence holders to the Gambling Commission or Ofcom.
[SIZE=11pt] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Furthermore if you believe that a licence holder is carrying out marketing activity that contravenes the industry code of practice on advertising you could also contact the Remote Gambling Association, who chair the Review Group for Socially Responsible Advertising. We have provided their link to their web-site below:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]http://argo.org.uk/http://argo.org.uk/[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]More recently, as regulatory pressure builds from the Gambling Commission, Advertising Standards Authority and Information Commissioners Office, a new trade body for affiliates is to be established: the International Gaming Affiliate Association (IGAA).
A group of leading affiliates and gaming legal experts are setting up the trade body to help the affiliate sector tackle the increasing regulatory scrutiny it is facing.
The new body, to be named the International Gaming Affiliate Association (iGAA), aims to establish a code of practice to ensure affiliates are promoting gambling in a responsible way and acting in compliance with all local laws.
Further articles relating to this are below:[/SIZE]
https://calvinayre.com/2017/09/16/business/igaming-affiliates-circle-wagons-arrows-fly/https://calvinayre.com/2017/09/16/business/igaming-affiliates-circle-wagons-arrows-fly/
[SIZE=11pt]https://www.gamblinginsider.com/trafficology/pdf/trafficology-2017-august.pdfhttps://www.gamblinginsider.com/trafficology/pdf/trafficology-2017-august.pdf[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]We hope that we have responded to all your questions and provided you with reassurance that we will continue to look at ways to make gambling fairer and safer for all.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]We would like to take this opportunity to thank you for bring your concerns to our attention. We rely on consumers sharing their experiences in order to provide a valuable insight into the industry and to help drive improvements going forward. The information that we gather forms part of the dialogue that we have in a wider arena including with both operators and our DCMS.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]You can also [/SIZE]raise the matters yourself with the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sporthttps://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/department-for-digital-culture-media-sport (DCMS) or your local Member of Parliament (MP).
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Not a single person on this forum is in control of their gambling. And if you are trying to tell yourself that, you are lying or being ignorant. Even the majority of streamers have accepted and confirmed that they are gambling addicts.
UKGC is hopeless. They have no power nor the influence to control gambling in the UK. All they can do is refuse someone a license, which they rarely do.
RyanMcSplooger
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I find it very worrying that streamers are addicts and are allowed to promote casinos. Most are self confessed addicts but now say they are okay. Of course they are okay when the viewers are paying for them to gamble. In no other industry would this happen. Alcoholics would not be allowed to promote alcohol, 'reformed' or not.
RyanMcSplooger
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I've had success with UKGC in the past. Although this was in relation to illegal giveaways and raffles. Those who push giveaways which require you to sign up and deposit should be reported to them as they are doing this without a license. They are not the ones to contact about streamers in general though
Slotplayer
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Laughable comment at best.
All on this forum like playing slots but then to say not a single person is in control of their gambling is just an idiotic statement.
And if you dare to say different you are either ignorant of it, in denial or lying. Yeah right.
Absolutely clueless.
Because you were silly enough to blow your money, doesn't mean others are as silly as you are.
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slotsofun
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He also cannot say that about someone for which he has no financial evidence to support. To me, uncontrollable gambling is losing what you can't afford to lose, so unless Ryan has the streamers financial information, he has no evidence to support that claim.
@TechnoJoe I dont even support celtic, never watch Scottish football so you have made yourself look like a GRADE A plonker
@SlotplayerI dont think everyone has a gambling problem but I think there are alot of people on this forum and viewing streams that do.
I personally dont think streamers will be banned but maybe regulated. Things like not streaming before 9pm etc etc. Streaming at 9am in the morning is a effin joke. All the casino grounds streamers have it so they are streaming nearly the full day.
@SlotplayerI dont think everyone has a gambling problem but I think there are alot of people on this forum and viewing streams that do.
I personally dont think streamers will be banned but maybe regulated. Things like not streaming before 9pm etc etc. Streaming at 9am in the morning is a effin joke. All the casino grounds streamers have it so they are streaming nearly the full day.
Exactly the same goes with whether the streamers money is real or not, unless u have a streamers bank statements u have not got a shred of evidence that the money is real. Yet anyone who dares question anyone is abused rotten on this forum.
RyanMcSplooger
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I'm confused. You don't need streamers financial information if they have said they have an addiction? Many of them have admitted it already.
Slotplayer
Moderator
There is a difference between people admitting and saying so and just assuming that everybody on this forum is a gambling addict or everybody that streams or watches a stream is one.
One thing you don't do is just tar everybody with the same brush!
RyanMcSplooger
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I don't dispute there are people watching with no gambling problems past or present. However I believe they are actually the minority, something which disagree on. People don't just stumble upon this content.
If a streamer is not funding his addiction then surely they are just treating it as a business which is also not clear to everyone watching. A simple red box saying 'AD' which is constantly present in the videos would solve this. I actually believe people should be doing this anyway depending on which you read the ASA ruling under 'vlogs'
Slotplayer
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I believe that as long as it is clear from the content that a casino is being advertised, there is no need for it to be spelled out to the viewer that it is an advertisement.
From the page that you refer to:
Marketers (and vloggers/bloggers) therefore need to ensure the presentation of advertorial content makes it clear that it is an ad and if the style doesn’t make the nature of the content clear, then it may need to be labelled with an identifier such as “Ad” or similar in order to make this clear.
From this post alone in this topic it is pretty clear that most that object to streamers, the intend of the streamer is clear - namely the advertising of a particular casino. So if you can identify it as that, then surely the general public can too?
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RyanMcSplooger
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I dispute this as to someone who is not clued up about affiliates or the purpose of the stream it's not obvious. They may take it as just someone who is having a gamble and recording it so people can watch.
I fail to see how it's a bad thing to do it anyway. I believe it should be implemented and those against it are obviously trying to protect their income and deceive the viewers.
If you asked the general viewing public who watch such streams what the purpose of the streams are I can guarantee you that the majority would not say to advertise a casino.
I've had correspondence with the ASA (sent in a complaint) about this and await their response. One thing I do not understand is that some streamers/content creators have a huge 18 plus sign before the video starts with some responsible gambling disclaimer at the start of each video but some do not follow this. It's clear that some people are not sure what they need to do so submitting complaints to such bodies is helpful to determine what actually needs to be done anyway.
I do agree the terminology used in the statement you posted is confusing though.
