Lightning Roulette, yeah keep playing it

[Kreezymind]

8 hours ago, Jeroen83 said:

This guy.... You must impress your girlfriend every evening on the dining table are'nt you with your theory's and "field" experience.

Cant deny the obvious thats bin posted here quite some times now.

 

 

10 hours ago, joshnadin said:

As I mentioned way back at the beginning, that's because these things happen way more often than you would think.

Your exposure to a roulette wheel in a casino over 15 years is nowhere near that of multiple auto-roulette wheels consistently spinning thousands of times, every single day, from different providers. You just can't use that as any kind of basis for what you're saying.

Regardless of if I'm in the industry, or have worked with Evo, it's not about getting emotional or being sensitive. It's about common sense and logic. Looking at perfectly reasonable explanations, and you not wanting to know, for whatever reason.

 

I did use paint to crop the image actually! Thanks for noticing! 😁

You can ask me for whatever credentials you want, and I'll be happy to provide them so long as any sensitive information is not shared. 

But, I can't continue to try and have any form of intelligent conversation with someone who thought a land based casino game has no RTP. That just shows how much you don't understand the topic you're talking about. Everything you've 'contributed' has zero intelligence, sense, or reason behind it.

As for categorically denying all form of perfectly reasonable explanation and instead insisting that things must be 'rigged', whatever you think rigged is, I'd say you're the far more likely candidate for taking drugs too often.

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If you come across any actual evidence, data, or sensible theory whatsoever, I'll be happy to continue a discussion with you. Until that point, it's like trying to convince Flat Earthers that they're not bat shit crazy for denying simple science, and all rhyme and reason that de-bunks their bizarre conspiracy theories.

I'll leave you all to your circle jerk. Enjoy! 🙂

Ill reply to you one more time since you are writing up bs again.

 

First of all i dont care about your credentials and your job, nobody here does and will. Second, you keep saying there are perfectly reasonable explanations, well give them then? Give me evidence that the wheel was not rigged, explain to me how the ball gets stuck on there while there should be no room between the cilinders where it could get stuck. You keep saying show proof or data its rigged. I ask you to do the same, you CANT... all you can do is believe the provider of the game is not rigging games, wake up son its 2021 these things happen.

 

You think because they have so much to lose they wont or cant rig any games? If you've found a way to rig games and nobody would ever find out, and this makes you hundreds of millions of dollars more a lot of people would do it, easy. Also the form of corruption and people being paid off is immense, how can you know that is not going on? Exactly, you cant all you can do is take their word for it. The MGA UKCG all are crooks and have nothing but self interest. If you think these organizations are here for the players, you are dreaming, they don't give a fck.

The video in question is straight up, and again no its not normal. If this was normal, there would be numerous videos like this out there, but you barely find them because its NOT normal. Just imagine, the multiple roulette wheels spinning constantly almost 24/7. How much spins is that in a week? millions or even a lot more, you are gonna tell me in the sample since these machines where introduced, this has only happened twice? yeah right lol. The idiot controlling it in the studio fcked up and he probably got fired for it.

 

You can scream tin foil hat all you want, until there is a logical explanation for the video's which still aint been brought up, people should be warned for these games.

I encourage you to keep playing them tho, as you are convinced they are perfectly normal, but i have the idea you never play these type of games anyway.

[hateTINfoils]

I am long time on this forum but as unregistered and usually just use this forum to see what is happening in gaming because I work in this industry... but reading this my eye was twitching so hard so I could not resist to make an account and write this one and only message.
First of all, all you tinfoil boys ... you do realize there is math on any game which is of course on game creator/provider side ? By default in long term house wins, there is literally 0 reason to rig the game.

Also what you think is easier to rig, actual LIVE streamed physical game or RNG slot where you can change RTP from 96.4% to 92.2% with one press of a button. Why you don't write any topics about rigged slots?

Also they are listed company, their reputation, compliance to regulators etc. is most important for them since any break of a law will result with heavy damages to their stock price.

Evolution is the only live casino till date who operates LEGALLY in USA, do you know what a process is to pass USA regulators ? they will inspect everything even your grandmas house to be eligible.
Why would they risk to take your extra 5 EUROS by rigging game to risk their whole operations world wide ?

There is no UNLIMITED money supply for players, why would they take it super fast in 20 rounds and making player experience loss loss loss if they can just use the Roulette game which has been here for centuries with 2.7% margin and stream it live. Again there is 0 sense of what you are writing....

I am sure even after 10000 people will tell you their are not rigged you wont believe just because how low brain capacity you have and how true degenerate gamblers always find another excuse to their own loses.

Edited 20 November, 2021 by hateTINfoils

[Kreezymind]

36 minutes ago, hateTINfoils said:

I am long time on this forum but as unregistered and usually just use this forum to see what is happening in gaming because I work in this industry... but reading this my eye was twitching so hard so I could not resist to make an account and write this one and only message.
First of all, all you tinfoil boys ... you do realize there is math on any game which is of course on game creator/provider side ? By default in long term house wins, there is literally 0 reason to rig the game.

Also what you think is easier to rig, actual LIVE streamed physical game or RNG slot where you can change RTP from 96.4% to 92.2% with one press of a button. Why you don't write any topics about rigged slots?

Also they are listed company, their reputation, compliance to regulators etc. is most important for them since any break of a law will result with heavy damages to their stock price.

Evolution is the only live casino till date who operates LEGALLY in USA, do you know what a process is to pass USA regulators ? they will inspect everything even your grandmas house to be eligible.
Why would they risk to take your extra 5 EUROS by rigging game to risk their whole operations world wide ?

There is no UNLIMITED money supply for players, why would they take it super fast in 20 rounds and making player experience loss loss loss if they can just use the Roulette game which has been here for centuries with 2.7% margin and stream it live. Again there is 0 sense of what you are writing....

I am sure even after 10000 people will tell you their are not rigged you wont believe just because how low brain capacity you have and how true degenerate gamblers always find another excuse to their own loses.

You are saying the same as your colleague. Nothing new, still no explanation about the video that was posted and what this topic is about. Why would they do it? Why would they risk it? why why why?. Exactly.

 

And yet another one from the Industry. Funny as that are the only people defending this video and saying its normal lol. Ive yet to see a player here whos not in the industry, seen this video and think hey thats normal, and actually looks fun, ill play some lightning roulette. Who are you fooling dude.

Edited 20 November, 2021 by Kreezymind

[joshnadin]

8 hours ago, Kreezymind said:

Ill reply to you one more time since you are writing up bs again.

First of all i dont care about your credentials and your job, nobody here does and will.

You're literally the one who brought up my credentials and challenged what I do.
It only seems you don't care when the situation doesn't suit your narrative, as usual.

 

8 hours ago, Kreezymind said:

Second, you keep saying there are perfectly reasonable explanations, well give them then? Give me evidence that the wheel was not rigged, explain to me how the ball gets stuck on there while there should be no room between the cilinders where it could get stuck. You keep saying show proof or data its rigged. I ask you to do the same, you CANT... all you can do is believe the provider of the game is not rigging games, wake up son its 2021 these things happen.

There doesn't need to be a huge, long winded, scientific theory as to why it happened. It is just an anomaly. Something pretty weird happened. That's it.

"It's 2021 these things happen" - 😂
Honestly man. You're golden. Keep coming up with these, please!

 

8 hours ago, Kreezymind said:

You think because they have so much to lose they wont or cant rig any games? If you've found a way to rig games and nobody would ever find out, and this makes you hundreds of millions of dollars more a lot of people would do it, easy. Also the form of corruption and people being paid off is immense, how can you know that is not going on? Exactly, you cant all you can do is take their word for it. The MGA UKCG all are crooks and have nothing but self interest. If you think these organizations are here for the players, you are dreaming, they don't give a fck.

You have literally zero basis to quote that anyone is corrupt and people are being paid off.
You're actually delusional. Like, to the point where I would recommend you seek medical attention because if you beliefs are genuinely in line with the nonsense you're spewing, I feel sorry for you.

 

8 hours ago, Kreezymind said:

The video in question is straight up, and again no its not normal. If this was normal, there would be numerous videos like this out there, but you barely find them because its NOT normal. Just imagine, the multiple roulette wheels spinning constantly almost 24/7. How much spins is that in a week? millions or even a lot more, you are gonna tell me in the sample since these machines where introduced, this has only happened twice? yeah right lol. The idiot controlling it in the studio fcked up and he probably got fired for it.

Again, the fact you believe there is someone in the studio controlling the outcome and got fired for a ball getting stuck due to a malfunction is absolutely insane.
Do you listen to yourself? Are you actually reading what you're writing?

No, it's not a normal outcome. Obviously. There is greater than a one in a million chance of it happening. But, that does not mean it's rigged. Just because something out of the ordinary happens doesn't have to mean something is wrong. If you do anything over, and over again enough times, you're going to get some extraordinarily strange results. 

 

8 hours ago, Kreezymind said:

You can scream tin foil hat all you want, until there is a logical explanation for the video's which still aint been brought up, people should be warned for these games.

I encourage you to keep playing them tho, as you are convinced they are perfectly normal, but i have the idea you never play these type of games anyway.

You have been provided with many logical explanations. You don't want to know about any of them.

No amount of logic anyone says will ever get through to you, because you're clearly not capable of any kind of intelligent thought process. The absolute garbage that you keep saying keeps proving time and time again that you have zero understanding of simple maths, zero understanding of odds and probability, zero understanding of how casinos and games work, you know literally nothing about the topic you're so adamant about.

[Kymu]

8 minutes ago, joshnadin said:

It is just an anomaly. Something pretty weird happened. That's it.

You're right, your theory explains it all

[Stevej]

What connects every ”defender” here: 1) worked in the industry 2) putting every person (who question these games) to the same tinfoil category 3) repeating the same thing over and over again: casinos do not need to rig the games 4) taking the conversation out of this impossible physical scenario, not analysing the actual event at all 5) being naive as fuck while trying to be smart

Sorry, but it doesn’t work.

Legal in USA. Yes. Evolution is not a live casino. It’s the evolution of legalized live casino working like slot machines. They can still try to hide it.

Somebody asked why aren’t we talking about rigged slots? Fucking stupid question but I’ll answer. The answer is that in these live games you notice all this shit happening because they should be live games. In slots it’s all software and you wil never know what’s happening under the hood.

Edited 20 November, 2021 by Stevej

[joshnadin]

51 minutes ago, Stevej said:

What connects every ”defender” here: 1) worked in the industry

Only two people here are stating to have worked in the industry. I'm not defending anything, I'm applying logic and common sense to a scenario. I don't care if a certain provider is rigged or not. Fuck, I wish it was rigged! The amount of money I could make exposing them would set me up for life.

Plus, we know what we're talking about. Do you know how many people are employed by these organisations? Don't tell me that not one person would know the 'truth' and not expose them.

53 minutes ago, Stevej said:

2) putting every person (who question these games) to the same tinfoil categoru

No one said you're not allowed to question anything. Questioning things is good, and no one should ever just take things at face value in life.
It's when you're getting to the point of questioning gravity in the Evo studios, Steve. It's the absolutely insane accusations and wild theories.
When you act like the people who think 5G is a mind control technology, and the people who think the world is flat, you get treated in the same tin foil category.

1 hour ago, Stevej said:

3) repeating the same thing over and over again: casinos do not need to rig the games

If you'd bother to actually read what I've been saying, I've provided numerous other points apart from this. But, that aside, the fact that they don't need to rig the games is one more sensible point that any of you have made.
Not only do they not need to do, it would be the opposite of beneficial to them.

We've talked about how the wheel operates, you even asked for the patent which I provided. You had no response. I've told you that because the provider doesn't pay out and it's the casino, that there would be no sustainable formula to rigging the game, but you have no response and don't want to know. 

1 hour ago, Stevej said:

4) taking the conversation out of this impossible physical scenario, not analysing the actual event at all

You clearly have no idea of what an impossible physical scenario is, do you. There is a huge difference between highly improbable, and impossible. Just like your friend, you have zero understanding of how random events, odds and maths work.

We have analysed the event. Not that we need to. You're just focusing on things that don't suit your narrative. Again, just like your friend.

1 hour ago, Stevej said:

5) being naive as fuck while trying to be smart

You're in no position to call anyone naïve. You keep throwing the word around.
The definition of the word is 'showing a lack of experience, wisdom, or judgement.'

You have no experience in what you're talking about. You clearly do not understand the topic at all, the nonsense you're spouting shows that. It is 100% clear you have no wisdom, as you're not able to look at a situation from a sensible standpoint and accept that a strange outcome in a game of chance is just that, a strange outcome. But no, it must categorically be rigged. You're unable to apply any kind of reasonable judgement outside the insane train of thought that you have and don't want to know anything that doesn't support your frankly worrying belief.

Can we stop throwing naïve around when you're continuously demonstrating you're the definition of the word. 

1 hour ago, Stevej said:

Sorry, but it doesn’t work.

Not sorry, but yes. It does in fact work.

1 hour ago, Stevej said:

Legal in USA. Yes. Evolution is not a live casino. It’s the evolution of legalized live casino working like slot machines. They can still try to hide it.

What the fuck does that even mean? Actually take a minute to read what you've written. It isn't coherent. 'Evolution is not a live casino'. 'The evolution of live casino working like slot machines'.

What are you talking about?
Gibberish. Absolute gibberish.

1 hour ago, Stevej said:

Somebody asked why aren’t we talking about rigged slots? Fucking stupid question but I’ll answer. The answer is that in these live games you notice all this shit happening because they should be live games. In slots it’s all software and you wil never know what’s happening under the hood.

Once again, you haven't 'noticed' shit. All you've seen is a YouTube video of an improbable event.

Of course you will know what's going on under the hood. Anyone that's been gambling for a sustained period of time can analyse their profit and loss and see if it's somewhere in line with the expected RTP of any game. Of course, some people will be over the expected RTP, some people will be under. But out of all those data samples, you will find an average that is extremely close to what you would expect games to operate at, with the RTP they state.

Go and ask your online casinos for your personal statistics and prove me wrong. Please.

[hateTINfoils]

I think it is time we discuss these events as well, they ALL MUST BE RIGGED just looked at them.....

the whole world is just rigged!

 

[Stevej]

6 minutes ago, joshnadin said:

Only two people here are stating to have worked in the industry. I'm not defending anything, I'm applying logic and common sense to a scenario. I don't care if a certain provider is rigged or not. Fuck, I wish it was rigged! The amount of money I could make exposing them would set me up for life.

Plus, we know what we're talking about. Do you know how many people are employed by these organisations? Don't tell me that not one person would know the 'truth' and not expose them.

No one said you're not allowed to question anything. Questioning things is good, and no one should ever just take things at face value in life.
It's when you're getting to the point of questioning gravity in the Evo studios, Steve. It's the absolutely insane accusations and wild theories.
When you act like the people who think 5G is a mind control technology, and the people who think the world is flat, you get treated in the same tin foil category.

If you'd bother to actually read what I've been saying, I've provided numerous other points apart from this. But, that aside, the fact that they don't need to rig the games is one more sensible point that any of you have made.
Not only do they not need to do, it would be the opposite of beneficial to them.

We've talked about how the wheel operates, you even asked for the patent which I provided. You had no response. I've told you that because the provider doesn't pay out and it's the casino, that there would be no sustainable formula to rigging the game, but you have no response and don't want to know. 

You clearly have no idea of what an impossible physical scenario is, do you. There is a huge difference between highly improbable, and impossible. Just like your friend, you have zero understanding of how random events, odds and maths work.

We have analysed the event. Not that we need to. You're just focusing on things that don't suit your narrative. Again, just like your friend.

You're in no position to call anyone naïve. You keep throwing the word around.
The definition of the word is 'showing a lack of experience, wisdom, or judgement.'

You have no experience in what you're talking about. You clearly do not understand the topic at all, the nonsense you're spouting shows that. It is 100% clear you have no wisdom, as you're not able to look at a situation from a sensible standpoint and accept that a strange outcome in a game of chance is just that, a strange outcome. But no, it must categorically be rigged. You're unable to apply any kind of reasonable judgement outside the insane train of thought that you have and don't want to know anything that doesn't support your frankly worrying belief.

Can we stop throwing naïve around when you're continuously demonstrating you're the definition of the word. 

Not sorry, but yes. It does in fact work.

What the fuck does that even mean? Actually take a minute to read what you've written. It isn't coherent. 'Evolution is not a live casino'. 'The evolution of live casino working like slot machines'.

What are you talking about?
Gibberish. Absolute gibberish.

Once again, you haven't 'noticed' shit. All you've seen is a YouTube video of an improbable event.

Of course you will know what's going on under the hood. Anyone that's been gambling for a sustained period of time can analyse their profit and loss and see if it's somewhere in line with the expected RTP of any game. Of course, some people will be over the expected RTP, some people will be under. But out of all those data samples, you will find an average that is extremely close to what you would expect games to operate at, with the RTP they state.

Go and ask your online casinos for your personal statistics and prove me wrong. Please.

I’m a software engineer. I know some maths actually. I know how rng works. I have analyzed these games with simple javascript apps and I know really well that every game rtp is absolutely correct. Yes, precise, correct, perfectly right. Your imagination of rigging is probably then quite limited.
 

I may write non-clear jibberish now cause english is not my main language and my motivation to argue with guys like you is dying. So better to read your fantastic theories from now on.

[Stevej]

3 minutes ago, hateTINfoils said:

I think it is time we discuss these events as well, they ALL MUST BE RIGGED just looked at them.....

the whole world is just rigged!

 

Fantastic explanation for our roulette scenario once again. These events added together removes the option that Evo has magnets.

[joshnadin]

11 minutes ago, Stevej said:

I’m a software engineer. I know some maths actually. I know how rng works. I have analyzed these games with simple javascript apps and I know really well that every game rtp is absolutely correct. Yes, precise, correct, perfectly right.

I just want to clarify that you're actually being serious.

You're stating that you've even collected your own independent data to show that games are exactly in line with the stated RTP, but yet the games are somehow still rigged?

Please, please, please tell me how you can rig a game to be in any way unfair towards the player if the RTP of that game is in-line with what is clearly advertised? How could a casino be applying any kind of unfair advantage if the maths is clearly showing you that the game is operating how it is advertised?

All you're doing is contradicting yourself and providing further evidence against your own theories.

 

11 minutes ago, Stevej said:

Your imagination of rigging is probably then quite limited.

I can not wait to hear what your imagination of what 'rigging is'.. 😂

I would be thrilled to hear how operators are rigging games if you, yourself are telling me you're fully aware they're paying out as they should do. Please, go on..

Edited 20 November, 2021 by joshnadin

[Stevej]

11 minutes ago, joshnadin said:

I just want to clarify that you're actually being serious.

You're stating that you've even collected your own independent data to show that games are exactly in line with the stated RTP, but yet the games are somehow still rigged?

Please, please, please tell me how you can rig a game to be in any way unfair towards the player if the RTP of that game is in-line with what is clearly advertised? How could a casino be applying any kind of unfair advantage if the maths is clearly showing you that the game is operating how it is advertised?

All you're doing is contradicting yourself and providing further evidence against your own theories.

 

I can not wait to hear what your imagination of what 'rigging is'.. 😂

I would be thrilled to hear how operators are rigging games if you, yourself are telling me you're fully aware they're paying out as they should do. Please, go on..

It’s super weird that people think that rigging is about lowering/manipulating the rtp. It’s black-and-white and naive (sorry, but it is) thinking.

Word ”rigged” in Evo case means that it’s legal, but slot machines/software games are in a disguise of live casino games, like somebody said that.

I’ll do some video & web app about ”rigging” in future.

Edited 20 November, 2021 by Stevej

[joshnadin]

Just now, Stevej said:

It’s super weird that people think that rigging is about lowering/manipulating the rtp. It’s black-and-white and naive (sorry, but it is) thinking.

I'm not saying it's about lowering or manipulating the RTP. Even though it is.. The whole point in 'rigging' a game would be to increase the house edge for the casino or provider to make more money. No matter how they would choose to do that, it would always affect the RTP of the game.

I'm saying it would be mathematically impossible to alter the game in any way, shape, or form, to increase the house advantage without somehow affecting the RTP of the game. You simply can not do it. If the game is paying out in line with the RTP that is stated, the casino and game operator are not applying any kind of advantage to the house that is not already very clearly shown in the game rules.

You do understand that, right?

 

4 minutes ago, Stevej said:

I’m not gonna explain it to you this time, but I’ll definitely do some video & web app about it in future that guys like you understand.

You're not going to explain it to me now, because you can't.

You will also not be able to explain it to me in the future.

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You have just given conclusive evidence that directly contradicts your own theory.

I don't think we need to continue the conversation.

[Stevej]

1 minute ago, joshnadin said:

I'm not saying it's about lowering or manipulating the RTP. Even though it is.. The whole point in 'rigging' a game would be to increase the house edge for the casino or provider to make more money. No matter how they would choose to do that, it would always affect the RTP of the game.

I'm saying it would be mathematically impossible to alter the game in any way, shape, or form, to increase the house advantage without somehow affecting the RTP of the game. You simply can not do it. If the game is paying out in line with the RTP that is stated, the casino and game operator are not applying any kind of advantage to the house that is not already very clearly shown in the game rules.

You do understand that, right?

 

You're not going to explain it to me now, because you can't.

You will also not be able to explain it to me in the future.

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You have just given conclusive evidence that directly contradicts your own theory.

I don't think we need to continue the conversation.

Ok, that’s fine!

[dirtystack]

I enjoyed that.

 

[Stevej]

2 hours ago, dirtystack said:

I enjoyed that.

 

He’s back, a one more guy from the industry btw 😂

So any other good explanations for a hovering roulette ball?

[dirtystack]

It is only you who can’t see that they have been completely picked apart.

I work in the industry yes, I don’t have any desire to defend the industry, I don’t see casinos as beneficial to society. If all casinos closed overnight I’d be upset that I’d have nowhere to gamble  - not that I’d be out of a job.

I just don’t like, and we discussed this in previous posts, people stating opinion as fact or lying to emphasis their point. 
 

Stating that a ball is defying the laws of physics when you don’t have a clue about physics…. 
 

My opinion is that wild conjecture, and the above mentioned lying, undermine any valid discussion as to the legitimacy of anything. 

[Stevej]

3 hours ago, dirtystack said:

It is only you who can’t see that they have been completely picked apart.

I work in the industry yes, I don’t have any desire to defend the industry, I don’t see casinos as beneficial to society. If all casinos closed overnight I’d be upset that I’d have nowhere to gamble  - not that I’d be out of a job.

I just don’t like, and we discussed this in previous posts, people stating opinion as fact or lying to emphasis their point. 
 

Stating that a ball is defying the laws of physics when you don’t have a clue about physics…. 
 

My opinion is that wild conjecture, and the above mentioned lying, undermine any valid discussion as to the legitimacy of anything. 

Actually I do understand physics a little, but this system is really complex to calculate. 

Everybody’s having opinions here. Opinions like ”well, things just happen” are the worst. It’s just like ”I don’t wanna think about it, it can’t be magnets cause it’s Evolution”.

That’s why you guys are focusing on everything else than this actual topic.

[hateTINfoils]

Stevej once again you show how dumb you are. 

This is your first post in this whole topic, now read your own stupid words and tell me WHERE ARE YOU FOCUSING ON TOPIC ABOUT BALL STUCK ??????

Nowhere! You jumped straight away to call them
"pyramid scheme"

"all the games are rigged".

"It's all corrupted and biggest scam"
So where are your facts, show us at least one! Because you have none just big mouth with 0 knowledge about math and I am pretty sure literally about everything....

On 12/11/2021 at 09:56, Stevej said:

Evolution Gaming is a pyramid scheme. All the games are rigged. It has nothing to do with the gambling.

Yesterday they gave 50x cash hunt, 50x cash hunt, 50x coin flip in Crazy Time between 9-15 UTC. Now they are happily collecting again probably for the next 1,5 week. After that they will drop some of those massive wins again when there are not big bet players around. That's how the machine works. They drop those massive wins to keep the "theoretical rtp" correct, maximize their profit and trick new players.

Sooner or later this whole fucking system crashes down. It's all corrupted and the biggest scam on earth.

 

[Stevej]

19 minutes ago, hateTINfoils said:

Stevej once again you show how dumb you are. 

This is your first post in this whole topic, now read your own stupid words and tell me WHERE ARE YOU FOCUSING ON TOPIC ABOUT BALL STUCK ??????

Nowhere! You jumped straight away to call them
"pyramid scheme"

"all the games are rigged".

"It's all corrupted and biggest scam"
So where are your facts, show us at least one! Because you have none just big mouth with 0 knowledge about math and I am pretty sure literally about everything....

 

Facts in your ass. Nobody has the facts. It’s my OPINION idiot.

It would be nice to hear some good theories about that specific roulette ball case though.

Edited 21 November, 2021 by Stevej

[Kreezymind]

50 minutes ago, Stevej said:

Facts in your ass. Nobody has the facts. It’s my OPINION idiot.

It would be nice to hear some good theories about that specific roulette ball case though.

There are none, its just maths and normal. It happens.

[dirtystack]

You could also get magnets and see how possible it is to make something hover. Unless it is very rigidly held in place its not going to work the way you think. The ball would not get stuck in a repelling state, it would naturally seek  to rotate itself to the attraction state - the spin on roulette ball would not be enough centrifugal force to stop the self correcting rotation for any noticeable duration.

That is if there were a magnet in both the ball and the wheel which would be silly. The magnet set up you have in mind would only be practical if there was magnets in the wheel, can have 37 of them, one in each number, individually activated and have a piece of magnetic material in the ball (Lead for example, any metal that is attracted to a magnet), this way it would only ever attract the ball and not repel it.

It would be a massive oversight for the evil scientists at Evilution to put a magnet in the ball when just a little metal in the ball, and the above 37 individually activated magnets in the wheel, would be infinitely simpler to execute.

A magnet in the ball would need the whole wheel to be made out of non magnetic material - roulette wheels are heavy lumps of metal that are finished in the varnished wood effect we all love.

 

Regardless, I'm not saying anything is impossible- just leaving out some food for thought/shower thoughts.

 

Edited 21 November, 2021 by dirtystack

[Stevej]

22 minutes ago, dirtystack said:

You could also get magnets and see how possible it is to make something hover. Unless it is very rigidly held in place its not going to work the way you think. The ball would not get stuck in a repelling state, it would naturally seek  to rotate itself to the attraction state - the spin on roulette ball would not be enough centrifugal force to stop the self correcting rotation for any noticeable duration.

That is if there were a magnet in both the ball and the wheel which would be silly. The magnet set up you have in mind would only be practical if there was magnets in the wheel, can have 37 of them, one in each number, individually activated and have a piece of magnetic material in the ball (Lead for example, any metal that is attracted to a magnet), this way it would only ever attract the ball and not repel it.

It would be a massive oversight for the evil scientists at Evilution to put a magnet in the ball when just a little metal in the ball, and the above 37 individually activated magnets in the wheel, would be infinitely simpler to execute.

A magnet in the ball would need the whole wheel to be made out of non magnetic material - roulette wheels are heavy lumps of metal that are finished in the varnished wood effect we all love.

 

Regardless, I'm not saying anything is impossible- just leaving out some food for thought/shower thoughts.

 

That was actually a really good comment and progress in this conversation. It made me think about this scenario again from new perspective.

I still think the most logical explanation for me is that there’s a repelling force from the number 14 while the wheel rotational force is pushing against that and holding the ball in the middle of 14 & 20 - or repelling forces from slots 14 & 20.

This system is really complex to calculate but simulating this few billion times would give a good insight. But nobody’s knows the measures of this wheel.

[dirtystack]

Bear in mind thatI’ve seen the same thing happen, twice in 20 years, when supervising roulette in a land based casino. If it can happen there, in 20 years, watching typically 2 roulettes at a time for around 4 hours a day, 5 days a week - similar anomalies will happen and be picked up.

I’ve seen a lot of weird shit - I’ve done a no spin that shot straight up and the ball never came down. Shot straight up and plugged the only hole in the white ceiling. Was a mystery until months later when the maintenance man dislodged it when adjusting some lights. I had a mouse fall on me when dealing Baccarat, fell on my head, jumped into the float, jumped onto my seat then shot off down the pit, a polish inspector screamed and threw a nearby manager into the mouses path.

Lots of weird stuff happens to break the monotony. mercifully.

[joshnadin]

On 21/11/2021 at 14:54, dirtystack said:

I had a mouse fall on me when dealing Baccarat, fell on my head, jumped into the float, jumped onto my seat then shot off down the pit

"Cash change! £500 for a stack of ponies! I mean, one mouse! Do you have your player rewards card with you please, Sir?"