Roshtein wins 1 million

10 minutes ago, Slots Critic said:

You should be very careful when you speak of things with such certainty. You immediately put someone down for something they claim, saying it's not possible with zero research.

As someone in a position of power, you're part of the problem when it comes to these threads which aim to educate and provide the truth, because you're speaking utter rubbish.

To clarify I've joined this forum, tried to educate people and start an intelligent reason backed debate and instead been called a liar by a moderator who is spouting absolute BS on things you could Google or even load betting sites up right now and debunk immediately.

Usually someone like me would have no chance of defending myself especially against someone who's a moderator. This is yet an important lesson to stop believing everything everyone says and use your own mind and think of things properly. 

@Big Time Gaming officialsince this guy has tagged you I'll help speed things along, thankfully the night in question I had my phone on me and naturally recorded it because it was a night of insane gambling.

This happened on 22nd/23rd July 2019 on Mecca Bingo. Oh and if you need even further proof, here's a video of me going crazy after a few drinks while doing these mad bets, which is why I sound deranged. Thankfully I had my phone on me at the time and this was sent over WhatsApp to mates...

What the heck is being a moderator got anything to do with this discussion? It doesn't give me any more power and my posts are just that, a post just like the next person's posts unless I am saying something in the capacity of a moderator which I haven't done in this topic at all.

So I was wrong but at least I didn't resort to throwing insults, unlike you.

 
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What the heck is being a moderator got anything to do with this discussion? It doesn't give me any more power and my posts are just that, a post just like the next person's posts unless I am saying something in the capacity of a moderator which I haven't done in this topic at all.

So I was wrong but at least I didn't resort to insults, unlike you.
Apologies if I insulted at all, and also I'm sorry for taking the light away from the debate on Roshtein here. It's easy to get caught up in these conversations, I'll make that my last post in this thread. Thanks!

 
But some how Roshtein, a guy with 20,000 people watching him everyday for years now is using fake money. Go ask your favorite casinogrounds streamer how much they make from affiliates, then times that by 1000. Then come back here and tell me why Roshtein would need to use fake money. 
Twitch have started deleting new followers when they recognise them as bots, Rosh had 28k new followers removed in 5 days, Sadly they only remove new bot followers.

https://socialblade.com/twitch/user/roshtein/monthlyIMG_3358.PNG

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I think you've hit the key thing there which people don't understand. Lets use NickSlots & SlotSpinner as an example.

- SlotSpinner is live right now with 170 viewers

- If I remember right NickSlots has around 1k viewers or less and does £5 roughly?

To put this into perspective, Roshtein has 20,000 viewers right now and is spinning £50 a spin.

He has over 20x their viewers, all day every day. This will make more traffic to his website and affiliation offers.

You have to remember here each viewer is a potential conversion in affiliation. Each person who signs up to SlotSpinner, NickSlots & Roshteins casino offers and loses money, they'll get 20-50% of the money lost as commission.

This is how basic affiliation works, it's simple - more traffic = more sales. 

Now you couple this with one other huge thing, Roshtein isn't based in the UK - The UKGC casino have really bad bonuses for streamers/people who play big. Roshtein has 400% bonuses on the casinos he plays because he's based in Malta.

This means he has a HUGE advantage over everyone else, because he can even beat the casino due to the deposit bonuses. Anyone depositing with a 100/200% bonus is still going to struggle, but it doesn't matter because the viewers/affiliation covers it. 

This is so simple to understand yet no one talks about it in these discussion threads ever. Like I said I don't know if he's fake or real, but I think he's almost definitely real because the numbers talk for themselves.

There's 20,000 people watching him every single day, can you imagine how many of them will be depositing with his links, losing (as you do at a casino) and giving him 20-50% of his losses?

Nickslots literally seems to have 3 offers on his website and stream for gamblers. Roshtein has GEO IP offers for every country, that'll drive even MORE money to affiliation. Can you imagine how many people watch NickSlots and don't have any sign up links because he only has 3 casinos?

It really is education at this point when gambling and affiliation comes into it. To confirm, Roshtein has some affiliate offers I disagree with (magicalspin for e.g.) so he's no saint. It would be amazing if he just contacted the top 10 forums and verified himself with them to end this discussion once and for all lol. Then we can all go on and enjoy the streams!

Sorry for your second point - I was on good money at the time and the combination of that + Highland Park scotch often leads to irresponsible decisions. I was high rolling a lot for fun and didn't really care if I lost. Looking back, it was a mistake! :)  I wouldn't be saying that if I hit it big though.
Not to single any streamer out but do you not think it's a bit suspicious that not one single streamer doing €50-200 spins day in and day out does it at an established casino with legitimate and/or local licenses. Casinos where the regular player does not run into issues every other cashout.

Playing hundred euro spins+ on high volatile games puts the casinos in a potential liability of millions of euros - something the likes of Mecca would be able to swallow, but, way less likely, a newly launched brand nobody's heard of and operating out of a postbox would.

You have streamers who've "branched out" from other streaming channels, where they were employees, now doing the same €100+ stakes and at the same casinos. Is it a) reasonable they were paid tens or hundreds of thousands a month to now afford the cashflow volatility such stakes incur? b) small casinos accepting such liability?

I can say for a fact though that affiliation will not cover a) for virtually anyone, especially not a person hired with a wage. If affiliation does not justify liability, one has the answer for b) as well.

 
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Twitch have started deleting new followers when they recognise them as bots, Rosh had 28k new followers removed in 5 days, Sadly they only remove new bot followers.

https://socialblade.com/twitch/user/roshtein/monthlyView attachment 26053

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I think it affected everyone, check this link. For context, 28k is nothing out of the 7.5million total purge that happened.

Not to single any streamer out but do you not think it's a bit suspicious that not one single streamer doing €50-200 spins day in and day out does it at an established casino with legitimate and/or local licenses. Casinos where the regular player does not run into issues every other cashout.

Playing hundred euro spins+ on high volatile games puts the casinos in a potential liability of millions of euros - something the likes of Mecca would be able to swallow, but, way less likely, a newly launched brand nobody's heard of and operating out of a postbox would.

You have streamers who've "branched out" from other streaming channels, where they were employees, now doing the same €100+ stakes and at the same casinos. Is it a) reasonable they were paid tens or hundreds of thousands a month to now afford the cashflow volatility such stakes incur? b) small casinos accepting such liability?

I can say for a fact though that affiliation will not cover a) for virtually anyone, especially not a person hired with a wage. If affiliation does not justify liability, one has the answer for b) as well.
I've seen Rosh do those spins at Leo & N1, where he used to spin. He did them on N1 today even, that's MGA licensed so I don't agree with point 1 - I've seen Rolla do those spins before, and even his mate Hypa I've seen do big spins in that area before, and I would be surprised if his mate made much from affiliation. That's on like 21 or Sky too.

So I'm not sure on point 1 - the second point you've mentioned there is one of the only reasons I have for him potentially being fake. 

From the little I do know about Curacao casinos, I hate from my experience with them. He plays Rosh immortality cube on 400 EU spins (30,000x maximum win) and I've heard on streams before saying there's no max cashout on the Curacao ones he plays at, just maximum daily withdrawals. I think that's a 12M cashout if it hits?

So yeah him promoting Curacao is one of the only things I have against him, I hate those casinos so much. Out of interest what streamer does the 100+ stakes where they used to work? That's quite interesting.

I did take a look to see company information on the ones he promotes, but couldn't see much on the Curacao company register (Bitkingz, Vegaz etc), not my area of expertise but I'm assuming someone else has investigated them for legitimacy before and AskGamblers has them highly rated.

 
I think it affected everyone, check this link. For context, 28k is nothing out of the 7.5million total purge that happened.

I've seen Rosh do those spins at Leo & N1, where he used to spin. He did them on N1 today even, that's MGA licensed so I don't agree with point 1 - I've seen Rolla do those spins before, and even his mate Hypa I've seen do big spins in that area before, and I would be surprised if his mate made much from affiliation. That's on like 21 or Sky too.

So I'm not sure on point 1 - the second point you've mentioned there is one of the only reasons I have for him potentially being fake. 

From the little I do know about Curacao casinos, I hate from my experience with them. He plays Rosh immortality cube on 400 EU spins (30,000x maximum win) and I've heard on streams before saying there's no max cashout on the Curacao ones he plays at, just maximum daily withdrawals. I think that's a 12M cashout if it hits?

So yeah him promoting Curacao is one of the only things I have against him, I hate those casinos so much. Out of interest what streamer does the 100+ stakes where they used to work? That's quite interesting.

I did take a look to see company information on the ones he promotes, but couldn't see much on the Curacao company register (Bitkingz, Vegaz etc), not my area of expertise but I'm assuming someone else has investigated them for legitimacy before and AskGamblers has them highly rated.
Same Curacao casinos struggle with pay outs for regular players size of 100,200 euros, accusing them for violating some rules ans condition kf the deposit bonus even if you had no bonus, played with raw cash. Yeaah i bet casino allow him to have no max bet, no max cash out and still give him insane deposit bonuses cos they just want him to win and go bankrupt themselves just because rosh is such a great guy.wake up non believers. He is fake, always was, always will be 

 
Same Curacao casinos struggle with pay outs for regular players size of 100,200 euros, accusing them for violating some rules ans condition kf the deposit bonus even if you had no bonus, played with raw cash. Yeaah i bet casino allow him to have no max bet, no max cash out and still give him insane deposit bonuses cos they just want him to win and go bankrupt themselves just because rosh is such a great guy.wake up non believers. He is fake, always was, always will be 
You're painting every Curacao casino with the same brush there, there's some good and there's some bad. How do we know for real he's fake? I think I made a mistake reasoning with you on this one when you end your statement like that. I guess this is a completely pointless topic, some FAQ's are helpful but when someones made their mind up with 0 proof they're completely convinced. 

 
Think the reaction of jumping up and down saying I won a million was totally genuine, like fk it was, nobody could celebrate so boringly in the same monotone voice, zero excitement, I've been more excited flushing a shit from my toilet, surely these casinos can be asked via freedom of information act? 

 
You're painting every Curacao casino with the same brush there, there's some good and there's some bad. How do we know for real he's fake? I think I made a mistake reasoning with you on this one when you end your statement like that. I guess this is a completely pointless topic, some FAQ's are helpful but when someones made their mind up with 0 proof they're completely convinced. 
What do you mean 0 proof proofs are eveywhere you just dont believe it.

 
Think the reaction of jumping up and down saying I won a million was totally genuine, like fk it was, nobody could celebrate so boringly in the same monotone voice, zero excitement, I've been more excited flushing a shit from my toilet, surely these casinos can be asked via freedom of information act? 
You will probably find that Freedom of Information Acts don't exist in the jurisdictions these casinos operate

 
I think it affected everyone, check this link. For context, 28k is nothing out of the 7.5million total purge that happened.

I've seen Rosh do those spins at Leo & N1, where he used to spin. He did them on N1 today even, that's MGA licensed so I don't agree with point 1 - I've seen Rolla do those spins before, and even his mate Hypa I've seen do big spins in that area before, and I would be surprised if his mate made much from affiliation. That's on like 21 or Sky too.

So I'm not sure on point 1 - the second point you've mentioned there is one of the only reasons I have for him potentially being fake. 

From the little I do know about Curacao casinos, I hate from my experience with them. He plays Rosh immortality cube on 400 EU spins (30,000x maximum win) and I've heard on streams before saying there's no max cashout on the Curacao ones he plays at, just maximum daily withdrawals. I think that's a 12M cashout if it hits?

So yeah him promoting Curacao is one of the only things I have against him, I hate those casinos so much. Out of interest what streamer does the 100+ stakes where they used to work? That's quite interesting.

I did take a look to see company information on the ones he promotes, but couldn't see much on the Curacao company register (Bitkingz, Vegaz etc), not my area of expertise but I'm assuming someone else has investigated them for legitimacy before and AskGamblers has them highly rated.
Just gonna point out Hypalinx does not do affiliations at all. He gambles purely with his own money and doesn't rely on affiliation earnings. The casinos he recommends are direct links and not referral/affiliation links. It's also why i like watching his content because he's as genuine as it gets without being involved with affiliation/promoting casinos.

 
What do you mean 0 proof proofs are eveywhere you just dont believe it.
Where? These conversations are insane, once someone has made their mind up you can't convince them. Show one single piece of proof? I've just justified exactly why he could be real in many ways, where is your proof he's fake?

Source: trust me bro

You will probably find that Freedom of Information Acts don't exist in the jurisdictions these casinos operate
+1, these Curacao casinos are horrible for players. I'm glad there's a lot less of them accepting UK players now compared to 2-3 years ago.

Just gonna point out Hypalinx does not do affiliations at all. He gambles purely with his own money and doesn't rely on affiliation earnings. The casinos he recommends are direct links and not referral/affiliation links. It's also why i like watching his content because he's as genuine as it gets without being involved with affiliation/promoting casinos.
Yeah I agree he's one of the most genuine I've seen, didn't know that he didn't even use affiliation!

 
I think there are arguments and discussions which can be ....well, "won" and "lost" for  lack of better words. There's also arguments and discussions which make it's participants smarter than before, regardless of "winning" or "losing".

There isn't an argument or discussion to be had with someone who thinks someone spins 100x€ spins day in day out. You might as well go argue with a fucking boulder.

 
Where? These conversations are insane, once someone has made their mind up you can't convince them. Show one single piece of proof? I've just justified exactly why he could be real in many ways, where is your proof he's fake?

Source: trust me bro

+1, these Curacao casinos are horrible for players. I'm glad there's a lot less of them accepting UK players now compared to 2-3 years ago.

Yeah I agree he's one of the most genuine I've seen, didn't know that he didn't even use affiliation!
How can you explain that when he clicked fun mode the balance was showing same amount as the "real money" mode??!!how come he started to play all btg's, net ents, no limits and other high volatile slots, providers just not long time ago?!!how you can afford to gamble since very begining (like his did) to do 50 euros spins right away(unless you millionerre obviously)).how can you get excited over over  bonus that paid 4 or 5 k win when you spining 50+euros and it takes 100 + spins to get it, like he does,!! He must be retard then though.When started thing called bonus cast, you could see exactly same bonus, paid exactly same amount of  money, rosh saying exactly same words, dressed same way,seems like been editing those bomus casts on two  different bonus cast,how much other evidence is  here on Cg forum?!! Bloody hell if that was and someone accuse me for being fake and Called all these names that people call him i would love to shut everyones mouth by proving that im legitimate streamer and im playing with real, own, money like he is claiming, but not him 

 
How can you explain that when he clicked fun mode the balance was showing same amount as the "real money" mode??!!how come he started to play all btg's, net ents, no limits and other high volatile slots, providers just not long time ago?!!how you can afford to gamble since very begining (like his did) to do 50 euros spins right away(unless you millionerre obviously)).how can you get excited over over  bonus that paid 4 or 5 k win when you spining 50+euros and it takes 100 + spins to get it, like he does,!! He must be retard then though.When started thing called bonus cast, you could see exactly same bonus, paid exactly same amount of  money, rosh saying exactly same words, dressed same way,seems like been editing those bomus casts on two  different bonus cast,how much other evidence is  here on Cg forum?!! Bloody hell if that was and someone accuse me for being fake and Called all these names that people call him i would love to shut everyones mouth by proving that im legitimate streamer and im playing with real, own, money like he is claiming, but not him 


1. The casino put the link wrong, lol? Easily explainable. It's a basic HTML link...

2. I have no idea what you're on about with Netent and No Limit City.

3. You've just seen me do 100 and 200 spins and I'm not a millionaire, I've explained how already you just don't understand. Listen, he has 20,00 viewers he's getting commissions in affiliation for and a 400% bonus, it's not hard to believe. 

And because you're calling him fake due to the way he dresses, I'll end it there as you clearly cannot be reasoned with.

 
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