Leovegas issues with the UK market - rant

jemchipsa

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Hello all

I dont normally do this but need to get this off my chest and warn other UK users for Leovegas. This is the problem :

Early Jan I deposited £10 and automatically my account locked saying documents required. A bit strange but not unusal in the UK market as there are several rules here now. However, during this time you cannot play the deposit, withdraw the deposit or do anything - it is basically locked. I then look into what they need and find there is two ways to do this now, both are very intrusive and were surprising. Option 1 - Send 12 months of your bank statements, not the easiest eventhough my bank now doies pdfs of each month or Option 2 - through a 3rd party site give access to your bank account by clicking on a link to your bank and then logging into your bank and approve access to the account to this 3rd party. Either way, most people would find this alone too much for privacy reasons and would also be worried it would be a scam. Again, if it wasn't Leovegas no way would I do this. So I did option 2 and waited. 3 days went by and I have had no correspondance to this, to either explain what happens next or any idea. So far, Im annoyed that my deposit is stuck - I might point out that under UK rules I could have gone to my bank and reversed this payment with but with it fortunately being only £10 I didn't. 

A week goes past and still nothing - I contact support to find out more and all I got was they couldnt give me a timescale, and they couldnt do anything as the process is done from another party. I ask can you at least withdraw the £10, I got told they can do nothing at. The irony of this situation is they can still send me offers that I cant use. I explain to the agent that I understood the process needed to be done under UK laws and EU laws to check sources of money after you deposit a certain amount, however I felt the timescale was poor and the fact your money is locked (again someone could have put in a lot more than me). I leave it at that thinking it might be done soon. The biggest concern for me here was customer support, every company has agreements with 3rd parties and in those agreements must be a timescale agreement, if Leovegas hasnt done this, it reflects badly on them or them being cheap. You dont get offered anything for this inconvience except we will get in contact when it changes.

Now over 3 weeks later, nothing has changed. I am now getting frustrated with momey being locked as well as not having access. I contact support again. 

Agent - I totally understand, Christian, To explain, when a certain deposit amount is reached on an account, it automatically triggers a review from our system. This is simply to ensure the account is being used as intended and to uphold our security measures in keeping your information and funds safe.

Me - I appreciate the reason but its the time scale Im complaining about, not the procedureAg

Agent : And our system is like a queuing system, we are currently have a large amount of reviews, and they are taking a bit longer, I'm very sorry for this i wish i can provide you with a timeframe. The issue is to give you a timeframe would not be accurate, as we don't know how long it will take, but i can assure you the team is working round the clock to get all this done. i understand waiting without a timeframe, is frustrating, but once we have an update we will reach out to you.

Was the conversation today, I am absolutely fed up that a company cannot tell you how long or the working around the clock for 3 over weeks insult to my intelligence. I have been a customer of Leovegas for over 5 years and seriously cant believe this situation. Im sorry for my vent but also to let people out there know how this goes at the moment. I will email Letsgiveitaspin to see if they have any more luck than me, all I can say is thankfully I dont have hundreds locked in my account at the moment.

 
Hello all

I dont normally do this but need to get this off my chest and warn other UK users for Leovegas. This is the problem :

Early Jan I deposited £10 and automatically my account locked saying documents required. A bit strange but not unusal in the UK market as there are several rules here now. However, during this time you cannot play the deposit, withdraw the deposit or do anything - it is basically locked. I then look into what they need and find there is two ways to do this now, both are very intrusive and were surprising. Option 1 - Send 12 months of your bank statements, not the easiest eventhough my bank now doies pdfs of each month or Option 2 - through a 3rd party site give access to your bank account by clicking on a link to your bank and then logging into your bank and approve access to the account to this 3rd party. Either way, most people would find this alone too much for privacy reasons and would also be worried it would be a scam. Again, if it wasn't Leovegas no way would I do this. So I did option 2 and waited. 3 days went by and I have had no correspondance to this, to either explain what happens next or any idea. So far, Im annoyed that my deposit is stuck - I might point out that under UK rules I could have gone to my bank and reversed this payment with but with it fortunately being only £10 I didn't. 

A week goes past and still nothing - I contact support to find out more and all I got was they couldnt give me a timescale, and they couldnt do anything as the process is done from another party. I ask can you at least withdraw the £10, I got told they can do nothing at. The irony of this situation is they can still send me offers that I cant use. I explain to the agent that I understood the process needed to be done under UK laws and EU laws to check sources of money after you deposit a certain amount, however I felt the timescale was poor and the fact your money is locked (again someone could have put in a lot more than me). I leave it at that thinking it might be done soon. The biggest concern for me here was customer support, every company has agreements with 3rd parties and in those agreements must be a timescale agreement, if Leovegas hasnt done this, it reflects badly on them or them being cheap. You dont get offered anything for this inconvience except we will get in contact when it changes.

Now over 3 weeks later, nothing has changed. I am now getting frustrated with momey being locked as well as not having access. I contact support again. 

Agent - I totally understand, Christian, To explain, when a certain deposit amount is reached on an account, it automatically triggers a review from our system. This is simply to ensure the account is being used as intended and to uphold our security measures in keeping your information and funds safe.

Me - I appreciate the reason but its the time scale Im complaining about, not the procedureAg

Agent : And our system is like a queuing system, we are currently have a large amount of reviews, and they are taking a bit longer, I'm very sorry for this i wish i can provide you with a timeframe. The issue is to give you a timeframe would not be accurate, as we don't know how long it will take, but i can assure you the team is working round the clock to get all this done. i understand waiting without a timeframe, is frustrating, but once we have an update we will reach out to you.

Was the conversation today, I am absolutely fed up that a company cannot tell you how long or the working around the clock for 3 over weeks insult to my intelligence. I have been a customer of Leovegas for over 5 years and seriously cant believe this situation. Im sorry for my vent but also to let people out there know how this goes at the moment. I will email Letsgiveitaspin to see if they have any more luck than me, all I can say is thankfully I dont have hundreds locked in my account at the moment.
Usually your Account on Leovegas is verified within Seconds and its totally common that they use third parties to confirm your documents. 

I think the Problem Here is not Leovegas, it should be the third partie. 

Maybe you can ask the live Chat If there is a possibility to restart the process with the 3rd Partie or you Just send them the documents that they want to see.

 
This is not a verification thing, this is to do with EU/UK rules about money laundering, which Leovegas must comply with. They told me once your account reaches a certain level it activates automatically. I have asked Live Chat if there is anything possible and all I get is no you have to wait until the process is finished, and no they have no idea how long as there is a queue and it could be any amount of time, thiere is no limit.

 
I went through this a few weeks ago too, which took over 2 weeks to resolve due to the numerous questions about my main account. It was a pain and I agree very intrusive, one of the questions asked was on payments made via my wife work, which I was have expecting them to ask for conformation which would have been too far if I was asked. 

The next hurdle was to have a call with the "gamble aware" team due to increases in deposits (£10 - £20 at a time) over Xmas, which was mainly due to being off work and they where running promos every day.  After various attempts to get them to answer the call (when they phoned me) it was very straightforward all be it frustrating as I felt objectified for a pastime I'm more than happy to lose a small amount of money on and know my limits.

I've not had this with any other sites yet and it does put me off overall gambling as it's very big brother and as you say @jemchipsa if you can't get the money out then why not put a block in before making the deposit.

 
Update - This weekend, yes its taken them this long to look at my accounts, I got an email about the process. To clarify one part before I continue - I like many others here have a seperate account for personal use like gambling etc, I consider this a good control for gambling especially as you can see what you have spare each week. This has now caused even more issues. They now want :

Taken from the email - We were unable to identify any recurrent income, such as a salary in the documents provided. Could you please clarify your current employment status and occupation? Additionally, we kindly request that you provide a bank statement reflecting your salary payments for the last three months in PDF format.

Ok so I have replied but Im not happy about giving yet more sensitive account details of yet another bank account. Ive told them that Im not willing to do so without more details of why. Im even more reluctant due to the next part because Im sure the people around me who I send money to for house and bills maybe dont want there information sharing.

Taken from the email - We also observed transfers labelled as “?????? money”, “??????” “?????” and “??????”, can you please clarify what is the reason and origin of those transfers?

And this leads me to this part, they want me to detail every transfer in or out of the following above (Sorry blanked things out for privacy). again why Im hesitant to give another account with most likely more questions. At this point it feels more like a police investigation and if they suspect something they should just pass it on to authorities - who I would feel more comfortable dealing with than a 'third party'. I understand the checks but this is beyond a check and basically they want to see all my income, explain all transfers etc. This is something not even my UK Tax Office has the power to do without a legal process. I personally feel it should be enough for me to answer questions they may have without providing yet more information. Id rather they make a decision to report me or close my account. 

Overall I think the process has taken too much time and is too invading into someones private life. I dont know anyone who would give 12 months of there bank account and then be asked for other bank accounts associated with it. The reason I run seperate accounts is so my main account is not tarnished by gambling, which unfortantely has happend to others. So to protect myself and to gamble safely I use this seperate account. I dont know if Im just feeling overprotective at this minute because Im mad at the time taken or the amount of private detail they want for just a small time gambling account. Im open to what you guys might think.

 
I only play at sites that verify you digitally after sign up, Coral and Ladbrokes mainly. They all have monthly deposit limits already in place so you don't have to send anything unless you wish to exceed those limits.

I used to have a Leo account but it was closed when i ignored their info requests. Just tell them you're not sending them anything as you don't want to be exposed to possible identity theft and demand they return your deposit to your bank.

 
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