Crypto Casinos - The Shit About To Hit The Fan

DanishDaniel said:
Does this mean that CasinoGrounds will no longer promote casinos that offer crypto deposits and withdrawals? If so, when will we see these changes? 

I would also argue that some of these sites have stronger self-exclusion than sites with other licenses, but since it is less regulated it also allows for more freedom in terms of the features that they offer.
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Firstly I moderate the forum - I don't work for Casinogrounds nor have any input in what they advertise or promote. Nor do my opinions reflect Casinogrounds itself - My response was entirely on the merits of experiences I know other people to have had on these sites mentioned. 

On self exclusion policy - I have known people who have self excluded and been able to setup a new account on these sites again without any KYC.

Why are you so keen to defend this behaviour seen in these videos? Its clearly not right and gambling should be fun, within your limits and your own money which a lot of these streamers clearly show getting "reloaded balances and some even stating they get a reload"...How is that gambling if you have no "risk". Might aswell load up a game on demo...

...To add aswell, who exactly has 100,000 to buy a bonus...like some of these streamers do. 

 
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Ash W said:
Firstly I moderate the forum - I don't work for Casinogrounds nor have any input in what they advertise or promote. Nor do my opinions reflect Casinogrounds itself - My response was entirely on the merits of experiences I know other people to have had on these sites mentioned. 

On self exclusion policy - I have known people who have self excluded and been able to setup a new account on these sites again without any KYC.

Why are you so keen to defend this behaviour seen in these videos? Its clearly not right and gambling should be fun, within your limits and your own money which a lot of these streamers clearly show getting "reloaded balances and some even stating they get a reload"...How is that gambling if you have no "risk". Might aswell load up a game on demo...

...To add aswell, who exactly has 100,000 to buy a bonus...like some of these streamers do. 
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Even if it is an unpaid position, it would be ignorant to proclaim that you don't work for CasinoGrounds. You obviously do. You moderate their forum. 

And you can do that on most gambling sites? The only real exceptions is locally licensed casinos with local verification methods. You could just make a new account on any Malta licensed casino, and the only thing that would happen is that you would get banned when you try to withdraw.

I am not defending the behaviour. I am not sure where you see that. Roobet is for sure one of the worst crypto casinos, but that doesn't justify all the ridiculousness going on about it. 

And well, anybody with more than $100k, has $100k to buy a bonus. I am not sure how you became a moderator on this forum, but you may wanna talk with your bosses about casino affiliate.

There is plenty of streamers using fake balances - But it's not all of them, and people are very quick to throw everybody under the same bus. 

 
DanishDaniel said:
Even if it is an unpaid position, it would be ignorant to proclaim that you don't work for CasinoGrounds. You obviously do. You moderate their forum. 
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As I stated in the original post - I don't work for Casinogrounds. You've clearly made your own mind up. 

I stated my opinion you clearly use Crypto sites and I don't put the site you use into question as I haven't heard anything to make me consider that. I am aware of people I know who have suffered from Crypto casinos and really got stuck with self exclusion which goes from requiring a timeout window for 24 hours before being able to self exclude...If you miss the window your back to square one and need to do it all again...For some problem gamblers this can be a considerable amount of temptation. 

DanishDaniel said:
And well, anybody with more than $100k, has $100k to buy a bonus. I am not sure how you became a moderator on this forum, but you may wanna talk with your bosses about casino affiliate.
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As mentioned in the first quote I have no bosses as I don't work for them. In my opinion again...opinion 100k is excessive and doesn't show a realistic level of gambling that any player would expect to risk - Some people can be influenced by such big bets.

DanishDaniel said:
There is plenty of streamers using fake balances - But it's not all of them, and people are very quick to throw everybody under the same bus. 
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I don't throw everyone under the same bus...I haven't mentioned any names but indicated some practices seem very unethical. 

 
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Ash W said:
As I stated in the original post - I don't work for Casinogrounds. You've clearly made your own mind up. 

I stated my opinion you clearly use Crypto sites and I don't put the site you use into question as I haven't heard anything to make me consider that. I am aware of people I know who have suffered from Crypto casinos and really got stuck with self exclusion which goes from requiring a timeout window for 24 hours before being able to self exclude...If you miss the window your back to square one and need to do it all again...For some problem gamblers this can be a considerable amount of temptation. 

As mentioned in the first quote I have no bosses as I don't work for them. In my opinion again...opinion 100k is excessive and doesn't show a realistic level of gambling that any player would expect to risk - Some people can be influenced by such big bets.

I don't throw everyone under the same bus...I haven't mentioned any names of anyone but indicated some practices seem very unethical. 
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I don't know what you mean by I made up my own mind. You're a moderator on their forum. It's not paid, but that doesn't mean you're not working for them. You moderate their forum - That's a job. 

And sure, I do. I also work for them, as well as sells them advertising. Which I have also done for non-crypto sites. My understanding of the whole industry is way beyond the basics that you are trying to argue. Those self-excluding features has nothing to do with being crypto or not being crypto. 

Maybe a 100k bonus buy is excessive, but who are you to decide how much other people should be allowed to bet? You don't really know the backstory about any of it, although you are right that people will be influenced by seeing such big bets. But that's like saying that porn should only have people with small penises, because the big ones doesn't represent you. Nobody forces you to watch them.

When you don't mention names, it means you throw everyone under the same bus. You clearly just call it "crypto sites". That is quite literally throwing every crypto site under the same bus. 

 
DanishDaniel said:
How is it a scam to gamble with fake money? It may be deceptive, but it's not a scam. 

There is KYC as well. 

We can all agree that gambling in an awful addiction, so why are you even here in the first place? 
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It's a scam if you tell everybody you play with real money. There is only a KYC if you win big lol, so maybe they don't have to pay someone out. 

Please tell me, why Stevewilldoit deleted his gambling livestream AND account after the first video came out? Because he knows what he does is illegal, and now you're here defending this guy. 

 
Svenix said:
It's a scam if you tell everybody you play with real money. There is only a KYC if you win big lol, so maybe they don't have to pay someone out. 

Please tell me, why Stevewilldoit deleted his gambling livestream AND account after the first video came out? Because he knows what he does is illegal, and now you're here defending this guy. 
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Can you send a clip of any one of these streamers directly saying that the balance is 100% raw cash? I have never heard that. It has always been blurry lines.

And no, that's not how the KYC's work.

SteveWillDoIt is an idiot, but that doesn't mean others can be idiots as well lol. 

 
DanishDaniel said:
Can you send a clip of any one of these streamers directly saying that the balance is 100% raw cash? I have never heard that. It has always been blurry lines.

And no, that's not how the KYC's work.

SteveWillDoIt is an idiot, but that doesn't mean others can be idiots as well lol. 
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Can't prove it anymore, they deleted their vid's lmfao, and yeah, that's how KYC works at Roobet. 

I'm just glad the first fake streamer got busted and get's tons of shit over his head, hope the others will follow soon. 

The owner of Roobet is the same guy as from the CS:GO-scam and there are still 4 video's to come, so I won't shout too hard Roobet is legit... 

 
Svenix said:
Can't prove it anymore, they deleted their vid's lmfao, and yeah, that's how KYC works at Roobet. 

I'm just glad the first fake streamer got busted and get's tons of shit over his head, hope the others will follow soon. 

The owner of Roobet is the same guy as from the CS:GO-scam and there are still 4 video's to come, so I won't shout too hard Roobet is legit... 
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So you're saying that SteveWillDoIt had videos on his channel where he was calling it 100% raw money? And well, no, it isn't.

Not sure what you mean by busted either. This has been commonly known knowledge ever since SteveWillDoIt started his collab with Roobet. It's not like it has actively been hidden. Same goes for Xposed for that matter. 

And which CSGO scam are you referring to? Also, Aero is just one of the Roobet owners. He is not the majority owner - But that won't be told in this series, because the people making it don't know shit about what's going on. 

 
Why are you people even replying to this fanboy who clearly knows everything and the majority doesnt know shitaccording to him  :D

Let him think its all good and legit, who cares.

 
Stevewilldoit is an absolute low life that doesn't care because he is friends with the owner of Roobet


Part 3 is coming on Wednesday

Id love to see an investigation into Ayezees crypto wallets,

That guy must be a multimillionaire to be able to bet like that.

Its all a scam

Jeroen83 said:
Read on CSGOMagic scam perhaps. The folks who used to run that joint run Roobet now. 

Ayezee for example. Promoting Roobet too.

He's on the payroll on monthly basis obviously. This fat paycheck covers his expenses and pretty much his gambling balance.

He said nummerous times that it was raw cash. Yeah, fed by roobet on contract basis. Dumbass. If you question that your getting banned.

Thats how these streamers roll. They dont want that secret to be coming out. They want it to last as long as possible because it's their little goldmine.
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I think the investigation is needed and bravo to those who are doing it. It is no justification to say you gave money to your best mate or a random homeless person.....where'd you think that money comes from?

I can't stand fake streamers. Ayezee drives me mad. There are too many clueless people who believe in the crap they promote and they even defend these losers. They need to be brought down. Gambling is not gambling if you aren't risking your own money, period. As a seasoned player, even if I hit a Megapays Jackpot I would not gamble as recklessly as these idiots do. All fake streamers need purging.

 
Weemonk23 said:
I think the investigation is needed and bravo to those who are doing it. It is no justification to say you gave money to your best mate or a random homeless person.....where'd you think that money comes from?

I can't stand fake streamers. Ayezee drives me mad. There are too many clueless people who believe in the crap they promote and they even defend these losers. They need to be brought down. Gambling is not gambling if you aren't risking your own money, period. As a seasoned player, even if I hit a Megapays Jackpot I would not gamble as recklessly as these idiots do. All fake streamers need purging.
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Ayezee went from €5 stakes to million dollar bonus hunts in less than 8 months.

It does not add up.  He can say what he wants but his balances are funded by the casinos.

Someone needs to dig deep and make a video on Ayezee. 

 
Jeroen83 said:
Read on CSGOMagic scam perhaps. The folks who used to run that joint run Roobet now. 

Ayezee for example. Promoting Roobet too.

He's on the payroll on monthly basis obviously. This fat paycheck covers his expenses and pretty much his gambling balance.

He said nummerous times that it was raw cash. Yeah, fed by roobet on contract basis. Dumbass. If you question that your getting banned.

Thats how these streamers roll. They dont want that secret to be coming out. They want it to last as long as possible because it's their little goldmine.
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No it's not lol. CSGOMagic was owned by McSkillet, and I can guarantee you one thing: He is not running Roobet right now. He is busy somewhere else.

CSGOMagic wasn't a scam either. Do you really know what scam means? I doubt it. 

Ayezee is not promoting Roobet right now either, and hasn't been for a long time as far as I recall. He is on an exclusive deal with Rollbit.

 
Jeroen83 said:
It's the same (shitty) deal they are having, roobet, stake, it dont matter. They are all in the same boat.  They get a salary, a part of that salary is brought back into deposits and used for gambling. Whatever they "win" is theirs. And if your a good streamer you can get a cut from the affiliates too. But here's where it gets difficult to bear. These affiliates who use these link will never ever have the extra edge in relation of return to player compared to their streamer. Just notice how these clowns generate win after win every 10 minutes in a stream. Its virtually impossible. And i gamble for quite some years, i have losing streaks that you wont believe. I can say with confident that 7 out of 10 deposits are a real loss. The other 3 deposits might yield me lucky enough to play "even". And after all the stress see how you could even get beyond that.

Ayezee left libanon to move to malta. Malta is a country where as good as 0 tax is involved. A crime haven. A island that neglects EU rules pretty much and obvious is the safe haven for scammers big time. Offshore shit. He promoted a few casino's in between but man, those where true pieces of shit that did not care one bit about their customers. Here, read for yourself:

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/gamdom.com?languages=all

Ayezee banned me from his discord (lol) after putting a complaint. Your no good to them as it brings "bad" publicity and automaticly affects his affiliate signups and play. Gamdom is a true piece of shit casino. The issue for 500$ could be so easily resolved, but they refused. It was a fast learning experience, and ive kind of came to the point that streamers in general should be despised. They are promoting something that is just not for the regular or casual or even hardcore player out there.

My advisse: de-follow, report their shit, sign off from the casino you used with their links, and start doing your own homework. What casino does fit me best. What game offerings do i want. What is the selection of casino's out there. Are they legit? What are the reviews. If you do like 2 hours on this you'll find a properiate list that you could settle down with for quite a while.

Tip: pick established brands. Avoid going oversea's that require a VPN. If your going to use a VPN on a casino your already giving them the benefit of them sacking you for using one in the first place. And yes they are as scummy to start telling you that this is an issue after youve done quite some deposits.
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Nah. That's not true. There's many different types of deals, where Roobet are the ones that started off with the howie deals as well as fake balances. The ones I despice the most. 

And every streamer get affiliates, that's not a matter of being a 'good streamer' lol. 

Malta is not a 'safe haven' for scammers big time. It is just the online gambling capital of the world. Most of the providers that you are probably gambling with yourself is placed there. And the taxes related to gambling is exactly why a lot of streamers are going there. 

And well.. Every online casino in the world has bad reviews. Either people win and they are happy, or they lose and they are mad. That's literally just how it goes. 

I do however doubt that Felix has scammed you. Instead it sounds like you decided to use a VPN to avoid a country restriction, which is obviously never okay - Even if it had been an 'established brand' it would still have happened. 

 
Daniel, I really can't take you serious anymore. Go watch the video's this topic is all about and don't pretend they didn't scam a lot of people. Don't try to wash your hands in innocence and if you clearly can't see what Stevewilldoit did wrong, please gtfo of this forum. You starting to look like a troll now, who is losing his company or is losing his easy way to make money. Playing with fake money and not admitting it, promoting gambling to people younger than 18 and encourage people to break the law by using VPN's is absolutely not done. And R******* did all of this. Stop pretending they well-meaning. 

 
Svenix said:
Daniel, I really can't take you serious anymore. Go watch the video's this topic is all about and don't pretend they didn't scam a lot of people. Don't try to wash your hands in innocence and if you clearly can't see what Stevewilldoit did wrong, please gtfo of this forum. You starting to look like a troll now, who is losing his company or is losing his easy way to make money. Playing with fake money and not admitting it, promoting gambling to people younger than 18 and encourage people to break the law by using VPN's is absolutely not done. And R******* did all of this. Stop pretending they well-meaning. 
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No worries, I don't need you to take me serious. I actually couldn't care less.

I don't disagree that SteveWillDoIt is an idiot, but that doesn't justify all the lies and ridiculous stuff that all of this is packed in.

If you wanna go after someone, then you have to know what you are doing. It's pretty clear that the people behind this series, as well as the people in the comments on here has no idea. You keep on spreading misinformation instead of the facts.

I have never seen Roobet promoting gambling towards people under 18 - Do you have some evidence of that?

I don't remember them directly advertising VPN usage either, but I do remember their rules being more relaxed than they are now/Has been the past couple of months. 

 
Part 3 is insane

Really makes you wonder if casino streamers giveaways are real or fake.

This unfortunately is going to make some people think all streamers are fake. 

 
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