citikilowat Posted 31 December, 2021 Share Posted 31 December, 2021 (edited) We all know that casino streamers have sponsor deals with casinos but this is not even gambling at all. The money Ayezee deposits into Rollbit was sent to him from Rollbit, he essentially puts in 0 dollar of his own. I don't know how he could be so arrogant/stupid to make all his transactions publicly. The video literally shows Rollbit sent him 86 ETH then he deposited 86 ETH back into Rollbit like not even an hour later. Edited 31 December, 2021 by citikilowat Link didn't work 2 1 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment
dirtystack Posted 31 December, 2021 Share Posted 31 December, 2021 zero charm 2 Quote Link to comment
Vultre Posted 31 December, 2021 Share Posted 31 December, 2021 No wonder this guy does $1 million dollar bonus hunts everyday. It's all the same money going in a circle 🤣 These people don't even bother to hide it that well. I'd expect they would wash a million freaking dollars through multiple wallets AT LEAST but they just send it through one and think no one would notice. Good ridence. 2 Quote Link to comment
citikilowat Posted 31 December, 2021 Author Share Posted 31 December, 2021 36 minutes ago, Vultre said: No wonder this guy does $1 million dollar bonus hunts everyday. It's all the same money going in a circle 🤣 These people don't even bother to hide it that well. I'd expect they would wash a million freaking dollars through multiple wallets AT LEAST but they just send it through one and think no one would notice. Good ridence. It's so obvious yet you still see people defending him in the comments. I don't know if they just can't think for themselves or got paid to comment. 3 Quote Link to comment
joshnadin Posted 31 December, 2021 Share Posted 31 December, 2021 I'm pretty sure that 99.9%, if not all crypto streamers don't actually put a penny of their own money in whilst 'gambling'. Coffeezilla and SomeOrdinaryGamers did a great job of looking into this during their YouTube mini-series. A quick search of the streamers wallets on the blockchain either shows that there is zero activity on them, meaning nothing has ever been deposited or withdrawn; so it's practically monopoly money or a 'free play balance'. Or, the funds clearly come from another crypto wallet that is owned and operated by the casino itself. More than anything though, I honestly do not know how anyone watches these people and finds it entertaining. Seeing streamers with multi-million dollar balances and playing at ridiculous levels that even billionaires would struggle to sustain is not enjoyable to watch. There is no audience engagement with their community. There's either no reaction to 'big wins' or 'losses', it's put on and acted very, very poorly, or is some kid going over the top and screaming and doing crazy shit that is frankly just irritating. I genuinely believe they only get the amount of viewers that they do as they perform giveaways on stream that are financed by the casinos, and 90% of the people watching are just hoping to win a few bucks. Their own audience doesn't seem to give a shit, and the majority of people in the chat are clearly only there in the hopes of getting some free money to blow on their own crypto-casino accounts. 😴💤 3 Quote Link to comment
citikilowat Posted 1 January, 2022 Author Share Posted 1 January, 2022 10 hours ago, joshnadin said: Seeing streamers with multi-million dollar balances and playing at ridiculous levels that even billionaires would struggle to sustain is not enjoyable to watch. Exactly, I think the appeal of watching someone else gamble comes down to you identifying with the suspense they feel while playing, the thrill when they win and bitterness when they lose. It's like you are gambling yourself. If someone casually throw 4 figures away every spin, what's there to identify with? 10 hours ago, joshnadin said: I genuinely believe they only get the amount of viewers that they do as they perform giveaways on stream that are financed by the casinos, and 90% of the people watching are just hoping to win a few bucks. That's a good point I didn't think of. Maybe all these people defending him just want a place to keep winning free money. 2 Quote Link to comment
Vultre Posted 1 January, 2022 Share Posted 1 January, 2022 16 hours ago, joshnadin said: Seeing streamers with multi-million dollar balances and playing at ridiculous levels that even billionaires would struggle to sustain is not enjoyable to watch. 😴💤 It really is ridicilous that people believe the stakes are real. But here is a concrete proof that money is just going in circles and I still bet these degenerates won't believe it. It's like how today people debate science and think the earth is flat. No matter how much proof, people will believe what they want to. 3 Quote Link to comment
Ash W Posted 3 January, 2022 Share Posted 3 January, 2022 (edited) Hard to believe someone p**sing a few hundred thousand up to a mill in for a stream. Dudes an embarrassment to streaming! Edited 3 January, 2022 by Ash W 3 1 Quote Link to comment
Vultre Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 14 hours ago, Ash W said: Hard to believe someone p**sing a few hundred thousand up to a mill in for a stream. Dudes an embarrassment to streaming! Well said. No wonder he's doing so many frequent giveaways. It's the only expense on their part since they are obviously not losing money through this charade and it will also keep viewers glued to the screen in hopes of getting a few bucks. Quote Link to comment
StallCation Posted 5 January, 2022 Share Posted 5 January, 2022 On 01/01/2022 at 05:28, citikilowat said: Exactly, I think the appeal of watching someone else gamble comes down to you identifying with the suspense they feel while playing, the thrill when they win and bitterness when they lose. It's like you are gambling yourself. If someone casually throw 4 figures away every spin, what's there to identify with? I agree, it's detached from reality. And whilst this can be a narrative edge in eg. fictional works of art/entertainment, like literature or movies, it just doesn't work on a gambling stream, not for me at least. I see I'm not alone :-) 2 Quote Link to comment
citikilowat Posted 5 January, 2022 Author Share Posted 5 January, 2022 1 hour ago, StallCation said: I agree, it's detached from reality. And whilst this can be a narrative edge in eg. fictional works of art/entertainment, like literature or movies, it just doesn't work on a gambling stream, not for me at least. I see I'm not alone :-) I agree but I think the bigger issue is that they're claiming it's real life and not fiction. Like a movie that says 'based on a true story' but is actually 100% made up. And when you consider young audience who buy into this fantasy thinking they will win big like their idol AyeZee, the fakeness becomes unethical and disturbing. 3 Quote Link to comment
attybishop Posted 5 January, 2022 Share Posted 5 January, 2022 (edited) okay Edited 5 January, 2022 by attybishop 1 Quote Link to comment
damnyouwagering Posted 5 January, 2022 Share Posted 5 January, 2022 Wheres all the flat earther Ayezee fans now replying now? how do twtich still allow this ffs its a joke 5 Quote Link to comment
Vultre Posted 6 January, 2022 Share Posted 6 January, 2022 16 hours ago, damnyouwagering said: Wheres all the flat earther Ayezee fans now replying now? how do twtich still allow this ffs its a joke No doubt Twitch should step in. Now they have proof. I don't see why would they want him on their website unless they just like collecting the ad rev and sub money from his channel. Quote Link to comment
citikilowat Posted 6 January, 2022 Author Share Posted 6 January, 2022 17 hours ago, damnyouwagering said: Wheres all the flat earther Ayezee fans now replying now? how do twtich still allow this ffs its a joke Twitch is too busy collecting their checks. No corporation is reliable to be the judge of ethics imo. Quote Link to comment
joshnadin Posted 6 January, 2022 Share Posted 6 January, 2022 On 05/01/2022 at 15:25, citikilowat said: I agree but I think the bigger issue is that they're claiming it's real life and not fiction. Like a movie that says 'based on a true story' but is actually 100% made up. And when you consider young audience who buy into this fantasy thinking they will win big like their idol AyeZee, the fakeness becomes unethical and disturbing. The ethical issue is exposing your audience to a potentially harmful and addictive activity, without exposing yourself to any of the risk involved, whilst giving the impression that you are. The ethics get even more questionable when you're actively promoting certain platforms, and actually benefiting financially from everyone that uses your referral code. Even more so considering the platforms in question have no responsible gambling features, no ability to self exclude, don't follow AML and KYC (unless it's in their interest to not pay out), can easily be accessed and used by underage people, and are generally the worst places for anyone that could develop a problematic gambling disorder, or already has one. 9 hours ago, Vultre said: No doubt Twitch should step in. Now they have proof. I don't see why would they want him on their website unless they just like collecting the ad rev and sub money from his channel. Twitch generate lots of revenue from these streamers with the amount of viewers and subscribers they get. With some of them even accepting donations, this further boosts their revenue. If Twitch do eventually give in to the pressure to do something about these streamers, I'm 99% sure they will just ban all forms of gambling on the platform as it's too difficult to moderate who is 'legit' and who is not. Which is sad because even though 98% of the casino streamer section is full of nothing but fake money crypto streamers, the vast minority that aren't pieces of shit will also end up suffering and losing out on being able to use the platform. 1 Quote Link to comment
JFlorence23 Posted 6 January, 2022 Share Posted 6 January, 2022 Dont see the point in doing this, giving people false sense of high stakes wins on slots, should be banned 1 Quote Link to comment
Springo Posted 7 January, 2022 Share Posted 7 January, 2022 Not surprised tbh, noone can sustain the large deposits that he was making.... 1 Quote Link to comment
citikilowat Posted 7 January, 2022 Author Share Posted 7 January, 2022 10 hours ago, Springo said: Not surprised tbh, noone can sustain the large deposits that he was making.... Yeah people have always had their suspicion since this guy was spinning just a few dollars less than 2 years ago. I'm glad we now have proof. 15 hours ago, joshnadin said: even though 98% of the casino streamer section is full of nothing but fake money crypto streamers, the vast minority that aren't pieces of shit will also end up suffering and losing out on being able to use the platform. I would be sooo pissed if my channel (potentially my livelihood) suddenly evaporated because of other people's fault. 1 Quote Link to comment
Vultre Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 On 07/01/2022 at 02:31, joshnadin said: If Twitch do eventually give in to the pressure to do something about these streamers, I'm 99% sure they will just ban all forms of gambling on the platform as it's too difficult to moderate who is 'legit' and who is not. It's definitely hard to differentiate but in this case the proof is there. Remember in the similar scandal with Phantom Lord they just banned him without banning csgo gambling at all because they had proof from his skype messages. This video needs to get more exposure so Twitch can see it and finally take action. Quote Link to comment
Kijanauk Posted 19 January, 2022 Share Posted 19 January, 2022 Who’s ever watching that shady streams … first view and you know is a cheat Quote Link to comment
damnyouwagering Posted 1 February, 2022 Share Posted 1 February, 2022 still nothing done about this idiot Quote Link to comment
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