[COMPETITION & STREAMER TOURNAMENT] Volatile Vikings & Dead Man's Trail (Relax Gaming)

[780xFTW]

not all bet sizes are vaild for entrys so its just 4 nl players

[LaTeRzuk]

grats winners!

[Jesse Broersma]

On 08/10/2021 at 17:44, Skylined87 said:

The initial draw has been made:

Seeing as it's unique situation, the random prizes and the prize crediting will have to wait until next week so I can discuss this situation how to handle it best. Do note that crediting any prizes for NL players cannot partake at any alternative casino. I will keep you posted, until then have a nice weekend everyone!

@Skylined87 I could possibly give you my bank details by e-mail or chat. Then you can transfer it to my bank account. But as I said before, we can cash out but not deposit money. So I don't know if it is possible for you to deposit the money into our LeoVegas account, but otherwise you could transfer it to my bank account. 😀

Edited 10 October, 2021 by Jesse Broersma

[Skylined87]

On 09/10/2021 at 01:18, Jesse Broersma said:

Heyy, how does it go now? Because i 5th but i don't win now? In The Netherlands we still can withdraw on LeoVegas but we just can't deposit if that's the problem. 

Still much love for the promo❤ and i'll hope really much that it can be fixed cause i finally won big hahah😅

 

On 09/10/2021 at 05:55, mosmagic said:

This sucks having country related restrictions. It's like the currency thing we have to pay 2.5x (min bet) more then what Euro players have to pay. So $100 gets me 2 chances when buying bonuses when Euro players get 5 chances.  Just have to ride the hard luck train because there's not much else to be done

Maybe they could do vouchers or CG merch for some of the high scorers from the Netherlands?

Congrats to the winners??? I think?

 

On 09/10/2021 at 16:57, mrclean said:

wow 6 out of 14 winners are from Netherland. I absolutely give them the prizes one more last time. Later promotions we, players from not restricted countries have way better chances to win 😉

 

16 hours ago, Jesse Broersma said:

@Skylined87 I could possibly give you my bank details by e-mail or chat. Then you can transfer it to my bank account. But as I said before, we can cash out but not deposit money. So I don't know if it is possible for you to deposit the money into our LeoVegas account, but otherwise you could transfer it to my bank account. 😀

I do appreciate the feedback regarding this matter, however it was made clear to me that no crediting of the prizes can occur. We'd never accept anyone's bank details.

I'll come with an update later today.

[Svenix]

Some more feedback: I can understand it’s not your fault Skylined, but you can’t let people spent or waist their money on this slot at Leo and just kick them out in the middle of the tournament. Let Leo be more creative and if they can’t pay it in cash due to the new rules, just spent the money on merch, a trip or give it to Kim and let him do a bonus buy from the money and sent the winnings to the dutch players their skrill or neteller. I appreciate Leo doing giveaways, but the new Dutch rules isn’t something they invented after the 20th of september. 

[780xFTW]

1 hour ago, Svenix said:

Some more feedback: I can understand it’s not your fault Skylined, but you can’t let people spent or waist their money on this slot at Leo and just kick them out in the middle of the tournament. Let Leo be more creative and if they can’t pay it in cash due to the new rules, just spent the money on merch, a trip or give it to Kim and let him do a bonus buy from the money and sent the winnings to the dutch players their skrill or neteller. I appreciate Leo doing giveaways, but the new Dutch rules isn’t something they invented after the 20th of september. 

dutch players knew what was coming so it was their risk/fault to participate.

skylined is no lawyer who keeps up to date with the worldwide casino regulations

Edited 11 October, 2021 by 780xFTW

[Svenix]

10 minutes ago, 780xFTW said:

dutch players knew what was coming so it was their risk/fault to participate.

skylined is no lawyer who keeps up to date with the worldwide casino regulations

Easy to say when you win 400€ instead of the 150€ you deserve mate. 

 

😉

[780xFTW]

well i only bought some bonuses after the news that the dutchies arent eligible anymore ^^

 

skylined will handle this as well as he always does

[BoudewijnB]

50 minutes ago, 780xFTW said:

dutch players knew what was coming so it was their risk/fault to participate.

skylined is no lawyer who keeps up to date with the worldwide casino regulations

Sorry all friendly but your arguments are a little weak haha 

1. Casinogrounds does kind of have to keep up to date with worldwilde casino regulations considering they are promoting casinos whereby NL is quite popular with gambling 😜

2. Do you know how many proposed acts are put through to the NL government on a weekly basis? I’ll tell you it’s a lot 😂 even the avid casino gamblers didn’t know what was going to happen with the new regulations 

either way, seeing some bonus buys on stream for NL winners would be super nice content 😀

 

[780xFTW]

ad 1: u request a lot

ad 2: ofc i dont know since i am not from the netherlands

 

bit stronger argument: "This promotion is subject to change at any time"

[BoudewijnB]

4 hours ago, 780xFTW said:

ad 1: u request a lot

ad 2: ofc i dont know since i am not from the netherlands

 

bit stronger argument: "This promotion is subject to change at any time"

Being the devils advocate for my Dutchies here because the money is not important for me but fairness is.

My request is that they do bonus buys or such with the amounts NL players won. They have the same method for Crazy time/gonzo’s giveaways whereby they send the winnings to Skrill so not really much different.
 

P.s. Casinogrounds footer = This website is aimed to provide a reliable and friendly Casino Streaming Community.

How reliable are you really if you decide to exclude players mid-tournament while they already gambled their money and not come to a compromise? 😜

[vanHooff]

My stance on this:
we all know according to the T&C that promo's can be subject to change and  we all knew or could have known that the new legislation for the Dutch would come into effect on October 1st.

I started a very lively thread on Casinogrounds about this on September 23rd .
In the OP of that thread I mentioned that the stopping of ongoing operations for the Dutch market for unlicensed operators per October 1st was rather sudden and that " I expect the Dutch to have far fewer decent places to play online for at least half a year, and not being able or allowed to participate in the CG promo's anymore from next week onwards. "
https://casinogrounds.com/forum/topic/41465-netherlands-dutch-market-online-gambling-regulated-october-1st-2021/?tab=comments#comment-210980

Only on September 21st our government announced that the fines for operating without a license were after October 1st were to be increased 4% of annual revenue or EUR 600.000, whichever is greater, and that violations of the rules were to be enforced.
Before September 21st there were rumours that operating without a license would be condoned.
 
So to me it is no surprise that Leovegas is not taking any risks here and that Dutch people are simply excluded from the promo.  Hence also the score for the leaderboard that I submitted of 'merely' 500x.

I assume that the prize money from Casinogrounds is sponsored by Leovegas for at least a large part. We shouldn't put Skylined/CG to any difficult decisions by asking for alternative ways to get any prize money.

I for one don't need anything, if up to me just make a leaderboard and random draw for all non-Dutch people.

And a huge thanks for having being able to compete for years in CG promo's in a privileged position. 
Before us, The Swedish, Danish, German, Belgian and UK people all have had their possibilities to join promo's restricted.

Much love 💗  

[Janalleman]

Could make this a big argument, but let’s give @Skylined87 a chance to solve it first.

I would suggest something like an Amazon voucher (valued at leaderboard rank). Can’t be spend on gambling though, so that’s pretty responsible 😂.

For future promo’s let’s hope we can compete again next year! 💪

[Jesse Broersma]

On 11/10/2021 at 11:48, 780xFTW said:

dutch players knew what was coming so it was their risk/fault to participate.

skylined is no lawyer who keeps up to date with the worldwide casino regulations

I didn't know all of this

[Gyoza]

@Skylined87So.. when we are expecting the results this week?  😁

[Skylined87]

Apologies for the delay on this one. 

These are the final results:

Random draw can be seen here: https://www.randomresult.com/ticket.php?t=2686608BGSTY

 

 

[BoudewijnB]

@Skylined87do you have an update for the NL players? Or did i miss a final conclusion?

[Skylined87]

16 hours ago, BoudewijnB said:

@Skylined87do you have an update for the NL players? Or did i miss a final conclusion?

Unfortunately due to unexpected regulatory changes/requirement NL players got excluded from the promotion. This is covered in our T&Cs as its something outside of our control.

Due to the unfortunate exclusion of NL players making them ineligible to participate in the promotion, CasinoGrounds decided to give something to show our appreciation for being active in the CG community as a token of goodwill.

We hope you understand that these things can happen from time to time, but we naturally do our best to avoid having changes made during a promotion.