How do one really quit forever?

[Andy Fox]

As above Im so sick and tired of how gambling ruined my life over and over again.

 

Finally had a good run won huge payed of some of my loans with the latest run moneys... loans that i got from gambling. Had 2000kr left after i payed all that. And still have nearly half the loans to pay back.

 

Play spacewars on casino x get crystals 1 time pays shit tils hit crystals 2 moore times on first 20kr bet then 40kr bet  all times it hits 3 crystals and thats it. Something in my head snaps and i tilt deposit 200kr 200kr 200kr. All dead spinns 20kr a spin. Goes reel rush gets bonus on 20kr a spin gives me less than 5x   on 5 diffrent bonuses i tilt and spin moore allways takes me too second last step on one ogf my last spinns then almost pays nothing over and over again.

 

I feel so sick to my stumach right now I screwed everything up again. Checking my account i spunn for 12000kr on 200kr deposits.

All deadspinns every bonuses gave less than 10x now I get the coldest run ever.

Now I gambled all rent money, food money and other bills money. Due to the previous fucksup i already sold everything of value i cant borrow from anyone cant take a loan cant do anything but now sit here and watch while i loose everything I have left.

 

I searched real help didnt work I had it under control for a great ammount of time then back then i got it under control again and now im back at it just like that.

I tried all steps of help everything.

Guess this might be it. Missing nearly 4000kr thats not much for many but there is 0 ways for me to get that money now without doing something illegal wich I wont.

 

Q1 has any long term gambler really succeed to quit fully? 

Q2 Is it moraly right in desperation after such fckup set up some sort of helpfundraiser for myself?

 

I have no clue what to do. Damnit I hate creating theese threads / fcking up so much times. Guess I wont learn untill i lost everything and have to live on the streets. Sorry for all the threads and the negativity in my life but somehow obly way for me to ventilate and everybody is so kind here and in the community.

[NudgeShuffle]

It's pretty brutal reading your posts which I've followed over the months.

It seems like cold turkey and zero gambling is your only hope. Anything else will very likely just bring you back to this place again.

In answer to your question. Yes gamblers can quit but sometimes you've got to reach the bottom so that the only way left is up. And the donation page idea - it's not morally wrong unless you used the money to gamble. But I can't see many being overly generous either.

I feel for you dude and I hope you can do something about it.

[Andy Fox]

1 hour ago, NudgeShuffle said:

It's pretty brutal reading your posts which I've followed over the months.

It seems like cold turkey and zero gambling is your only hope. Anything else will very likely just bring you back to this place again.

In answer to your question. Yes gamblers can quit but sometimes you've got to reach the bottom so that the only way left is up. And the donation page idea - it's not morally wrong unless you used the money to gamble. But I can't see many being overly generous either.

I feel for you dude and I hope you can do something about it.

Thanks to you and everyone else here for your kind words and support troughout all the hard times. Technicly I was at a point where I never had to worry about money ever again many years ago. What I mainly keep secret is how big of a down going spiral I've had with my gambling ever since I started. I lost so much and much moore than what should even be possible.

I had it under control then I slipped like I done over and over again many might recognise themself in this. Some people even gone as far as taking their own lifes over being in the same situation as I and many others am. I never truly understood why they would take their own life over something as small as a gambling issue untill now when i'm here myself. 

Every single day right now is like walking around being stabbed over and over again in the heart the anxiety that come from all of this is really so bad that it hurts for real. Can't even remember when I had a good night sleep last. And now everything is just worries exactly all the time can't concentrate on my normal life anymoore even because of this. 

I tried all the tricks tips and professional help after I got bad luck last time I tried again. and another program but none really works. Once you gamble there will allways be ways around new casinos new ways to register and play my only choise is to downgrade my phone to a phone that cannot use mobile bank id and stop using computers if anyone tried that you know that its impossible for a longer period of time since like everything today requires the use of it. 

I have no idea on what to do next what my next step is I reached that final point that I walked against every single month latly and now the next step is only a huge drop no matter how I look at it. 

Some sort of donation/funding was just a desperate tought of how to actually solve my problems. But in the end I can't see anyone willing to help like that. 

I used to hope to but I actually just don't know anymoore. I got to this point on my own it's all my own fault I can't blame anyone and I guess this is it I will have to take responsibility for my own stupid actions and maybe loosing everything is the only wakeup call I ever will get.

The way I feel now I never wanna touch a slot machine again I feel so sick even if I somehow manage to save myself from this most likley certain faith I don't think I could ever spend a penny on a slot machine ever again so maybe it had to reach this absolut end point before I came to realise that but I'm not sure it even matters anymoore worst part is i loose everything over a small sum. sums that I used to spinn away in like 4-8 spinns. 

In the end someone who just gamble will never win no matter how much a person win if that person keeps gambling he will loose alot and much moore in the end. 

The streamers have twitch/youtube and other income beside the gambling wich they also usually have good bonuses for themself but it will be interesting the day one of the bigger streamers ends up in my shoes no matter how much on the + side they are now I do belive that one day it will change. just like it did for me someday that cold streak will come and it wont end untill one is point zero then the worst part about gambling kicks in where you actually have to risk it to get it back because you are spending to much or lost way to much. 
 

[Slotplayer]

That is really sad to read.

I guess that will power comes first. You must want to stop gambling else nothing will work. It is the same principle as giving up smoking. No point trying all the aids if you're mentally not prepared to give it a go.

Casino blocking software is just one of the tools available. Unfortunately the one that you were not able to circumvent ( TXNoGam ) is no longer available. It was the best on the market because it not only stopped casinos loading up, you couldn't access forums such as these or Youtube videos containing gambling and, more importantly, there was no way to disable it.

There are charity and professional organisations out there that can support you. But again, you must be prepared to stop wanting to give up gambling.

Not sure if the same applies in your country, but here in the UK there are charity organisations that help you with any debt. They will speak to your debtors and set up repayment plans for you  (see: https://www.stepchange.org/ for the UK organisation )

Stop watching Youtube win videos and don't go into the big win screen shot section here or on other forums. Remember that most will not tell you how much they invested to get those big wins so it doesn't always tell the true picture.

Tell your family and close friends.

Just a few tips that may help

Good luck with it.

[Andy Fox]

It's funny I just got a text saying I have 30 freespinns in piggy riches for the first time I get a bonus in a long while 80kr from the standard 1.50kr bet   and ends up with 103kr  something.   so have to play trough theese 4000kr   40x

I star playing montezuma 3kr bets  I get deadspinns untill I get a bonus that pays 13kr then after it says bonus guarantee and I get 30kr

I keep spinning 3kr untill im down to 20kr then I get a bonus and boom 10x   10 freespins    all the standard freespins pay nothing but I get almost 50 freespins at 10x and ends up with 700kr one of the best wins I had on that casino for so so long so many thousands I spend with only getting deadspinns and shit bonuses and now on bonus BOOM Really good bonus round.

Anyway after that I get another reel rush hit im like really havent had a single bonus on that slot under all my over 500 spinns at 20kr now the past days....

And boom I have 1600kr  

I play gonzo 2kr spinns just deadspinns or nothing pays down to 1400kr.

I change to jack and beanstalk down to 1000kr

I change to sakura down to 800kr 

I change to raging rhino down to 600kr

I change to spacewars down to 400kr

I change to reel rush down to 300kr

I try almost all slots and guess what

When I have 3kr left I have 50kr still to wager.....

and then another deadspinns and I played the absolutly lowest betsize on all theese slots almost 99% deadspins and a few spinns that gave back 0.5-2x the money on all thoose slots..... Now how come its like this every time I play on a bonus? This just makes everything feels even moore rigged..... 

All thoose time I play real money I get shit wins and shit bonuses. but as soon as I taken a bonus I get huge bonus wins all slots feels hot untill im about to break even with the wager and allways ends up loosing almost everything before the wager is met in almost deadspinns.

I does not even feel like i'm just unlucky because the diffrence is allways so huge in how hot the slots are when you are on a bonus compared to just playing cash.

I finally felt like yes maybe this can save my month when I reached 1600kr then nope. as allways. 

this gambling just keeps crushing me haha  never had such a brutal sessions as the past days. allways bonus tease or close to very huge win when im about to loose the last of the account money teases with crystals on spacewars taht just payed shit premium symbols that payed shit. 

Of all deposits the past days I havent even reached 400kr  any of all thoose 200kr deposits I made. and that includes a ton of bonuses on 20kr bet crystals at 40kr bet and so on. GG WP.


 

[Skylined87]

@Andy Fox you seem to be experiencing a serious gambling issue. Stop it. Now. I've warned you on previous post you made regarding the winnings where I asked you "didn't you stop?". Either quit gambling all together (cold turkey) or gamble your life away (what you're doing right now). Choice is simple really. This is your wake the f*** up call. That's all I'll say.

[the_68]

@Andy Fox  Skylined87 may sound harsh, but everything he says is true. I hope you sort it out, best of luck!!

[spiker1977]

Not to be harsh, but if you do 60 deposit, 200kr every time then the gambling devil have you in a massive grip.

When this is not your first rodeo, i was expecting that you had put deposit limits on the casino you play on every 2 weeks. Seem the only way is to go cold turkey and stop all gambling. I hope you sort it out and get your life back on track.   

It can be done, dont know if you seen these but take a look. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDXyRpLSwjGYAmbb_IQ8blg

[Ziggy]

Hey, I am very sorry to hear that you have such a huge huge issue. Gambling is a silent drug and a very very dangerous one.

You need to seek professional help immediately and please please remember, you will never win your money back; as I am guessing that's what you are hoping to do. 

My friend told me a story about a guy who used to go to our local casino. He was a successful local business owner who played blackjack 2-3 times a week. He started with small bets and played it for fun with his friends until two years later he had to close the business, sell his house and all the remaining assets to re-pay his debts. 

As I understand, you can still quit and please do that while it is not too late. Ignore all the text messages and calls from casino providers. Stop visiting these forums and stop watching Youtube videos/Streams altogether. I would suggest you talk to Kim or Paul, they will tell you more on how to handle this disgusting disease. 

 

All the best buddy

[Andy Fox]

15 hours ago, Skylined87 said:

@Andy Fox you seem to be experiencing a serious gambling issue. Stop it. Now. I've warned you on previous post you made regarding the winnings where I asked you "didn't you stop?". Either quit gambling all together (cold turkey) or gamble your life away (what you're doing right now). Choice is simple really. This is your wake the f*** up call. That's all I'll say.

Exactly this. I tried to stop so many times I searched help at diffrent occasions by diffrent help organisations but none could really help me their advices one of them was comunal help and the advices I got there was just horrible and bad and they had no clue what a gambling issue really meant.  The other one I tried last helped me on my way but that was it not really that good of advices either sadly. also there are allways ways around I had it under controll and felt happy about is but it is easy to make excuses and be stupid and keep going like I have. I'm quitting forever this is what I keep telling me and keep doing time after time after time then I get like now.  1500kr bonus with 3x wager when I deposit 500kr....   
 

15 hours ago, the_68 said:

@Andy Fox  Skylined87 may sound harsh, but everything he says is true. I hope you sort it out, best of luck!!

I know I'm happy for skylineds advices And I do need that to maybe realise somewhere deep inside how serious this is. 

Gambling can be good and gambling can be bad, and im now part of the bad side of gambling. I really want to quit I don't seek confirmation by theese threads I seek some sort of support too realise its time to quit. and so far I've got alot of it so thank you all once again.

My promisse right now wich might not mean that much since I failed so many times. But my promisse mainly to myself is I will quit dead cold now won't touch a casino again. 

8 hours ago, Ziggy said:

Hey, I am very sorry to hear that you have such a huge huge issue. Gambling is a silent drug and a very very dangerous one.

You need to seek professional help immediately and please please remember, you will never win your money back; as I am guessing that's what you are hoping to do. 

My friend told me a story about a guy who used to go to our local casino. He was a successful local business owner who played blackjack 2-3 times a week. He started with small bets and played it for fun with his friends until two years later he had to close the business, sell his house and all the remaining assets to re-pay his debts. 

As I understand, you can still quit and please do that while it is not too late. Ignore all the text messages and calls from casino providers. Stop visiting these forums and stop watching Youtube videos/Streams altogether. I would suggest you talk to Kim or Paul, they will tell you more on how to handle this disgusting disease. 

 

All the best buddy

Sadly it is and the brain works from that. That story about the guy I heard in many shapes and forms but it happens and thats where i'm heading. I closed my buisness long ago luckily or this could have gone really bad. My buisness was a good profit when I shut it down but who knows what kind of messed up crap one could have done if i still ran it while being in this situation. When you see rocknrolla tilt a few thousand pounds just like that and redeposit or just end it with tears in his eyes same with kim when he had a long long deadstreak was it last summer? he was also devistated but kept going and got lucky and won big shortly after. If their deadstreaks where like mine it wouldnt have ended there it would have kept going and what would have happened then? 

Would they have been able to stop or would they have kept going just like i did? This is the hardest question there is. When one lost so much nothing really matters anymoore and you know you gonna win back sooner or later and just keeps going but that day might not come. and then it's over. 

Thank you Ziggy.
 

10 hours ago, spiker1977 said:

Not to be harsh, but if you do 60 deposit, 200kr every time then the gambling devil have you in a massive grip.

When this is not your first rodeo, i was expecting that you had put deposit limits on the casino you play on every 2 weeks. Seem the only way is to go cold turkey and stop all gambling. I hope you sort it out and get your life back on track.   

It can be done, dont know if you seen these but take a look.

 

The thing is once you start deposit small like this you will pretty fast loose track of how many times or how much you deposited. 

I had shut down like every single casino there was then It took a while and I got this really really great offer from a casino wich I had forgott i even was a member at and i did a final deposit won alot again and then boom back in the shit again. 

Shortly after I won nearly 10K € from a total of 3 x 20€ deposits wich payed alot of my gambling debt. 

Then after that the cold streak started with theese insane teeses I got bonus after bonus that payed less than 5x on 2€ bets.  I got crystals on space wars wich didnt pay anything I got all theese massive premium symbol teases in a way I never seen before Like full screen crystals on spacewars 5 times with the middle reel missing. so no win. 

I got bonuses on reel rush that was just plain dead and I had already lost so much so it just kept going. Every time I took a bonus I won massive got bonuses that paid alot like 500x on 3kr bet and massive basegame wins and all the bonuses payed huge when it just been that cold on real money and as soon as the wager was about to be met I lost it all before it was done every single time. Never felt as rigged as that moment when it just happened over and over again. 

 

[realagentbearrrrr]

You're obviously just throwing your life away . Get some hope/ambitions beyond gambling . Go travelling , get ripped at the gym . learn chinese like just find something that gives you hope for a better life -  because there is no skill in gambling and you will never win because even if you somehow do win financially you will have nothing to spend the money on except more gambling until you lose it all again .

I love playing slots too but it's a really sad life when you have nothing else except gambling hope . Because the games only exist to take money from people like yourself . Someone sits there and designs a slot thinking "how can we get this guy to give us his money ? We obviously have to let him win occasionally or he will stop playing but as long as we let him win often enough to give him a bit of hope then we can continue to milk him of all his money" And you're the mug who falls for it every time . Maybe because your life feels pointless/hopeless so you look to gambling as a way out ? Well it's a deadend unfortunately because like I said even if you win you will only gamble it back anyway

there's always this  -http://foreignlegion.info/joining/

[Original Jase]

Only way you'll ever stop is by doing it yourself no matter how much advice you get if you ask my opinion. Getting advice helps but only you holdshould the key. Good luck bud, hope you make it

[Kowita]

After following your posts I have decided to quit gambling all together. I'm going to watch streams etc, but I have contacted different institutes where I live, and they have permanently blocked me. I also blocked myself from all sites I played on, permanently. 

I found out that I managed to spend alot more money than I thought, and reading your post just made me realize how bad it can end.
I feel bad for you my friend, and I really hope you figure it out. PM me if you feel like talking together. 

[Ragoon4swe]

I don't know if this has been said alredy but this is how I do when I feel my gambling is getting out of hand and im close to the "bottom".

Talk with the support at ALL the casinos you have an account in and I mean ALL. Tell them to block your account for atleast 3 months. I read you got a text messesage from one casino, tell them to block that as well. Also block every casino from your e-mail or change password to something like "gkglflwö38rlgnxk" so you won't remember it and it will get you a chance to rethink what your doining if you try to change it back. If your using a creditcard to deposit call your bank and make them block any outgoining money from your card. 

Also you should stop watching streams if you get tilted or eager to play at all. Don't watch tv(they include lots of casino commercials) instead watch netflix or online series instead with ad-blocks wich removes the casino adds. 

Thats pretty much all what I do when I enter the "dark side of gambling". 

Wish you all the luck!

[Kowita]

I would also recommend getting the necessary psychological help. My uncle, who was addicted to gambling, got himself into so much debt that he didn't see another way out, than to kill himself. If you ever reach to this point, you need to contact some kind of hotline. 

How are you now my friend? Can we hear from you?

[ivan3011]

You really need to stop, Andy.

Get some psychological help or a Self-Help Gambling Group.

Delete all your accounts you have, and stop thinking about what you could do with possible winnings. Dont use your freespins either! Theese will trigger you into real money.

Dont be shy, to open your heart do some Psychologist. You are not the first and not the last one.

[Andy Fox]

On 2017-05-01 at 9:48 PM, Kowita said:

After following your posts I have decided to quit gambling all together. I'm going to watch streams etc, but I have contacted different institutes where I live, and they have permanently blocked me. I also blocked myself from all sites I played on, permanently. 

I found out that I managed to spend alot more money than I thought, and reading your post just made me realize how bad it can end.
I feel bad for you my friend, and I really hope you figure it out. PM me if you feel like talking together. 

Great it's the devils work. Just look at the streamers they also tilting badly been pretty many moments now I've seen or heard off stream tilts of upwards to 50K€ My biggest downstreak myself is over 76K€ in a short while....

On 2017-05-03 at 9:19 AM, Kowita said:

I would also recommend getting the necessary psychological help. My uncle, who was addicted to gambling, got himself into so much debt that he didn't see another way out, than to kill himself. If you ever reach to this point, you need to contact some kind of hotline. 

How are you now my friend? Can we hear from you?

Thank you, ofcourse I took a break from life litterally my down was so huge I have no words for it and its just theese tilts so close but so far away all the time. I tried hotlines I tried psychologist I tried help programs nothing really works when your whole life been and allways was gambling.

I had so much from gambling that I got blind everything seemed so easy then boom all gone.

In the end it's just money and there is so much moore to live for but the anxiety eats me up every day as it is. 

On 2017-05-03 at 10:16 AM, ivan3011 said:

You really need to stop, Andy.

Get some psychological help or a Self-Help Gambling Group.

Delete all your accounts you have, and stop thinking about what you could do with possible winnings. Dont use your freespins either! Theese will trigger you into real money.

Dont be shy, to open your heart do some Psychologist. You are not the first and not the last one.

Like I written a few times I got professional help a few times now tried some programs tried hotlines and tried psychologi. 

Nothing works it's not even about the money anymoore what i've lost what i win all about that little thrill feeling alive one last time.

I really must thank every single one that commented on this post it means so much to me and it's of big help.

I had a few sessions now limited myself to 200kr per week it works so well untill theese tilts just start showing and 9/10 spinns is just deadspinns.

Sadly I must do my best to just not touch slot machines anymoore atleast the threads seems to have helped alot of other people.

The only problem in my life now thanks to gambling is im stuck where I am, I don't have any money left i work part time and can't even move to get a full time job since noboy rents to people in debt in sweden. 

Every day is filled with anxiety and sadness and anger wondering what i've done how could i do this and so on.

I really wish I'd never touched the slots to start with and lived a poor and calm life but I hit the major jackpot and that was it GG life.  

I hope anyone who reads this find it in your heart to stop gamble for your own sake it's a fun and short thrill.... Saying this on a gambling forum seems wrong but trust me I rather save someone from this.