Playngo same provider different game??

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troypersonaltrainer

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Hi guys.

Curious how playngo games 96.5 Rtp version is supplied by the same provider but yet can play so differently on each casino. For example i can rip 200euro on Reactoonz , 80p stake with literally not hitting 3 bars? then i deposit immediately on a different casino and hit 2 gargies in 10 spins? Can casinos log your deposits and withdrawals to manipulate the play?  Can they manipulate the Rtp? My point is surely a game from same provider should play the same in a similar period of time? I guess you will tell me im running cold on a certain casino blaa blaa lol Any info or wisdom would be appreciated :) good day

 
My opinion if I should write it in my own words i would say you are running cold on a certain casino blaa blaa

 
troypersonaltrainer said:
Hi guys.

Curious how playngo games 96.5 Rtp version is supplied by the same provider but yet can play so differently on each casino. 
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Conventional wisdom is that you cannot project back the RTP and variance numbers, which are derived from billion(s) of spins, to small sample sizes such as 500 spins. Also there are a few 'ask me anything' threads to be found on the internet where people who have been or are involved in making slots, explain that the legit casino's cannot tamper with the games and that the games from the providers are certified and tested.  

If you want to get a feel for how hot or cold slots run, there are a few places on the internet where to find such information.
Some of these are affiliate sites that I won't mention or link. You might try https://www.videoslots.com/payout-ratios/ 

What would also be mildly interesting in my opinion, is to compare how different RTP versions of a game run in simulations,
for example the 96.5% version of Reactoonz with a 94.5% version of the same game.
I think that this can be done with the rights (variance) numbers and a spreadsheet or online simulation tool such as used for poker variance.

In my personal opinion the games that are on offer on Unibet at their special 98% RTP rate run much better than the same games on standard RTP,
while I should not notice the difference according to conventional wisdom. Admitted, these games are mostly low-med volatility.

In any case, good luck with the slots, make sure which RTP versions you are playing and play where you feel lucky.  

 
troypersonaltrainer said:
Hi guys.

Curious how playngo games 96.5 Rtp version is supplied by the same provider but yet can play so differently on each casino. For example i can rip 200euro on Reactoonz , 80p stake with literally not hitting 3 bars? then i deposit immediately on a different casino and hit 2 gargies in 10 spins? Can casinos log your deposits and withdrawals to manipulate the play?  Can they manipulate the Rtp? My point is surely a game from same provider should play the same in a similar period of time? I guess you will tell me im running cold on a certain casino blaa blaa lol Any info or wisdom would be appreciated :) good day
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It is just the way random works, the odds of hitting a Garge is 1/333 if I recall correctly. Ripping £200 at £0.80 without a Garga is something you should get used to if you plan to play Reactoonz a lot. You can expect sometimes to go thousands of spins without a Garga, if you think about it, it should happen quite frequently considering there is only a 0.3% chance that he shows up in any given spin. sometimes thousands of spins without, sometimes several Garga within a hundred spins. I think the best I've had was 4 Garga's in 10 spins, the worst is 4 Gargas in 15 000 spins. 

They don't track your individual deposits or whether or not you have won or lost, they don't adjust the outcome based on what has happened to previously, they don't have custom results tailored for you based on how you have been doing. To do so would mean they would quickly lose their licence. It would be a violation of a lot of laws I imagine.

If they do manipulate anything it wouldn't be personal, for example, they would just lower the RTP for a while or block big wins across the board, it wouldn't be just to you personally so they can recoup the £200 you won the other day. I don't think they do this but I've had such a bad streak that I find myself speculating all kinds of conspiracy theories recently. I work in the business too lol.

 
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