Casino update. Still a joke
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700 euros down the drain for me within last 2 weeks with 0,2-0,6 bets. Not one single slot paid, think highest win was like 150x. Pretty much 80% of bonuses I had were 1-20x.
For the worst experience I once accidentally played 2x 90 euro max bet on a slot. Of course both of the spins paid 0. (played on mobile, was playing minimum bet and for some funny reason hitting the lower bet option once more goes to max...)
For the worst experience I once accidentally played 2x 90 euro max bet on a slot. Of course both of the spins paid 0. (played on mobile, was playing minimum bet and for some funny reason hitting the lower bet option once more goes to max...)
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CrazyDuck4
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I was doing 10€ a spin on roulette black or red, lost 12 spins in a row i mean what are the odds in that
For me, it really depends from day to day. Some days i only seem to get big hits, however some days... Last week i lost 1k in El Paso, simply because i won 2,3k in a regular spin. Normally i know when to stop when the slot's not hot, but here i was convinced it would pay again 
oh well, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose! 
oh well, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose! Watching all these big streamers hitting 1000x daily is just frustrating. I want to belive that its just bad luck but watching roshstein/classybeef and all the others playing Raw balance and still winning and withdrawing. I understand that they need to make good commercial but cmon be real. 1000x pretty much everyday? my last 1000x was 6 month ago and i play pretty much.
ts999777
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CGDL
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A big chunk of the larger wins you see on stream are derived from bonus buys. Quite a few of the titles being played has a higher RTP stated in the bonus game vs the base game, or a higher RTP due to the feature buy itself. The "x bet win"-factor also becomes skewed as you can't compare someone winning 1000x via a bonus buy, versus an organic (non-bought) bonus that results in a 1000x. That's when you consider specific scenarios though, but in the long run, the RTP evens out the more spins that are played through.
And then there's the difference between legitimate real money streamers, and pure marketers, where the latter does not represent a true player experience because the individual doing the marketing is paid X for doing Y, which is completely separated from wins/losses.
As for my worst/best experience, there are many. One of my favorites is when I went APE on the Roulette table in Portomaso casino with friends. We stayed til early morning, could barely stand. When the manager offered us rides home, that's when we knew we fucked up (our own "bankrolls", that is).
Archer Haddon
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dirtystack
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Probably been woken up in an airport waiting lounge by a large woman standing over me, straddling, lifting and shaking me by my Armani lapels.
“WTF are you doing?” I said.
”I thought you were dead!”
Oh shit, I thought to myself, scrambled to my feet whilst searching my pockets for my ticket home, running to the check in, arriving just in time to be told “that flight left 3 hours ago.”
The night before comes flooding back, a casino, losing so much the owner invited me for drinks, endless whisky - the drink that usually results in my arrest, vaguely remember chasing a waitress around the casino with a fully extended lipstick, don’t remember if I ever got to paint her.
What can you do? I stumble to the cash machine and check balance: £16.35
Shit.
No choice, have to call mum.
“Hi mum.”
”Hi, how is the U.K. croupier of the year competition going?”
”Ummmm”
”Oh don’t worry son, always next year”
No point lying, may as well let her have it:
“Ah, I’m not actually at the croupier of the year competition in Plymouth - I went to Praque and lost all my money gambling and missed my flight, can you transfer me some money for a ticket?”
I don’t know if all mothers can conjure such a terrifying silence, how can silence carry such a furious tone?
After what seemed like an eternity:
”Ok, I’ll pick you up at the airport”
”It’s ok mum, I have enough for the train.”
”I’LL PICK YOU UP FROM THE AIRPORT.”
shit
”ok tha...”
phone slams down
”...nks”
Hmmm, she seemed disappointed.
Then it dawned on me, sweet! Mums picking me up so I don’t need to keep money for train fare, they have Blackjack at the airport! This combination of circumstance is to uncanny, let’s fucking go. Got out £10.
Lost it all in the first hand.
Boring wait, money arrived from mum, boring flight. She is there waiting for me when I arrive to London.
”Hi mum.”
She doesn’t say a word.
She doesn’t say a word the whole hour plus drive.
As we arrive home and pull into the driveway I notice there is jagged pieces of something cream coloured strewn all over the front lawn.
She still hasn’t said a word so I’m not about to ask.
I go to my room and my PC is missing. Apparently she took it outside and smashed it to pieces with a sledgehammer. She knows my gambling started with online poker. She got a joint mortgage with me and the plan was to renovate and sell, setting me up and getting me on the property ladder. I paid the first months mortgage payment but had gambled away the last couple of years of payments so she had to take the whole thing on herself.
I try to make amends for the past these days, every now and then I deposit £2k into her bank, she usually notices and asks
”What is this money for?”
”Hi mum, that’s just some money for my past sins“
”Where is the rest?”
She replies.
I’ll take it, anything is preferable to the silence.
The end.
“WTF are you doing?” I said.
”I thought you were dead!”
Oh shit, I thought to myself, scrambled to my feet whilst searching my pockets for my ticket home, running to the check in, arriving just in time to be told “that flight left 3 hours ago.”
The night before comes flooding back, a casino, losing so much the owner invited me for drinks, endless whisky - the drink that usually results in my arrest, vaguely remember chasing a waitress around the casino with a fully extended lipstick, don’t remember if I ever got to paint her.
What can you do? I stumble to the cash machine and check balance: £16.35
Shit.
No choice, have to call mum.
“Hi mum.”
”Hi, how is the U.K. croupier of the year competition going?”
”Ummmm”
”Oh don’t worry son, always next year”
No point lying, may as well let her have it:
“Ah, I’m not actually at the croupier of the year competition in Plymouth - I went to Praque and lost all my money gambling and missed my flight, can you transfer me some money for a ticket?”
I don’t know if all mothers can conjure such a terrifying silence, how can silence carry such a furious tone?
After what seemed like an eternity:
”Ok, I’ll pick you up at the airport”
”It’s ok mum, I have enough for the train.”
”I’LL PICK YOU UP FROM THE AIRPORT.”
shit
”ok tha...”
phone slams down
”...nks”
Hmmm, she seemed disappointed.
Then it dawned on me, sweet! Mums picking me up so I don’t need to keep money for train fare, they have Blackjack at the airport! This combination of circumstance is to uncanny, let’s fucking go. Got out £10.
Lost it all in the first hand.
Boring wait, money arrived from mum, boring flight. She is there waiting for me when I arrive to London.
”Hi mum.”
She doesn’t say a word.
She doesn’t say a word the whole hour plus drive.
As we arrive home and pull into the driveway I notice there is jagged pieces of something cream coloured strewn all over the front lawn.
She still hasn’t said a word so I’m not about to ask.
I go to my room and my PC is missing. Apparently she took it outside and smashed it to pieces with a sledgehammer. She knows my gambling started with online poker. She got a joint mortgage with me and the plan was to renovate and sell, setting me up and getting me on the property ladder. I paid the first months mortgage payment but had gambled away the last couple of years of payments so she had to take the whole thing on herself.
I try to make amends for the past these days, every now and then I deposit £2k into her bank, she usually notices and asks
”What is this money for?”
”Hi mum, that’s just some money for my past sins
“”Where is the rest?”
She replies.
I’ll take it, anything is preferable to the silence.
The end.
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Derpthederp
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Streamers can't influence the RTP which is controlled by the provider. As someone else mentioned though bonus buys is a big part of it but also roshtein legitimately streams 12 hours every day of constantly spinning slots often several at a time. And streamers run bad as well.
Anyway to answer the topic as well for me in particular. When I started out gambling I ran ridiculously bad (I calculated my RTP and it was something like 60-70% over like $10k in losses doing bets mostly $2). Then I had two insane days where I won everything back and a little bit more hitting a 2k x on $5 and several other big-ish hits, and since then I have mostly been losing again.
One way I like to think about it is for every big hit or maxwin, you or someone HAS to lose at least the amount of the max win. So say you are playing fruit party $2 bets. To be able to provide the money for 1 maxwin of $10k, the slot first has to eat $10k so someone needs to run bad for $10k before it has the RTP to pay out 1 max win (to be clear I'm not saying works in this way, just that statistically it works out in this way.)
And that is only if you run average, if you run below average you could lose $20k or $30k or $50k before you see anything close to a max win.
The way slots are set up is that you mostly just get shafted, and then very rarely you get a big hit, which is why you should always just assume anything you deposit and put into slots is lost, and then one day you might eventually get a big win.
96.5% RTP is also really bad, I think it is a lot more than what it sounds like to most people intuitively.
Maybe the streamer can't infuence the Rtp but the provider of the account on that casino can for sure. i have my opinion and you have yours. im watching them play while i play the same games and from my pov its not even close to what they do.
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Derpthederp
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Did you happen to watch Train who is down like $2.3 million the last few months? =p I will admit Rosh is running insanely hot these last few weeks but thats just how gambling crumbles.
Interesting fact is that if I deposit with welcome bonus or any kind of deposit bonus, 99% of times I get big hit in first 50 spins...
Almost every time (9.5/10) that session ends with me loosing everything before wager is done...
BUT in those extremely rare occasions when I finish wager, my withdrawal will wait for approval for 5-10 days and I would cancel it and loose without one middle or big hit... LOL
In last 6 months I had same number of 0x or 1x bonus wins, as I had in first 5 years of online/normal gambling...
That feeling when you finally hit bonus after 300 spins, and it pays 1,6e on 5e bet... Priceless... 10 bonus spins, 9.5 of them dead... LOL
First 10 times this happened, it could have been coincidence... But today, after many many of this bullshit I've seen, I can say only well done, congrats, again you found so awesome way to fuck me over...
I'm out.
Almost every time (9.5/10) that session ends with me loosing everything before wager is done...
BUT in those extremely rare occasions when I finish wager, my withdrawal will wait for approval for 5-10 days and I would cancel it and loose without one middle or big hit... LOL
In last 6 months I had same number of 0x or 1x bonus wins, as I had in first 5 years of online/normal gambling...
That feeling when you finally hit bonus after 300 spins, and it pays 1,6e on 5e bet... Priceless... 10 bonus spins, 9.5 of them dead... LOL
First 10 times this happened, it could have been coincidence... But today, after many many of this bullshit I've seen, I can say only well done, congrats, again you found so awesome way to fuck me over...
I'm out.
