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general casino talkWhy do people think RTP matters? (Slot machines)

You are both right and wrong. Let me explain this mathematically.

You have mentioned billions of spins. Let alone billions, even in millions of spins, RTP can not jump from %50 to %98, even with max. allowed wins. This can only happen during the first tens of thousands of spins. After a certain number of spins played, the RTP travels around +-%1 of the final declared RTP.

After billions of spins, this travel becomes something like +-%0,0001 which indicates it is safe to declare the RTP.

So, you are right that it does not significantly matter if you are going to play a couple of hundered or i.e. 2000 spins but you are wrong that you need to spin billions to see the real RTP

What should matter more is the volatility. 

To be honest, real question here should be if the RTP is calculated globally or casino-based? As you know, it is casino-based in land casinos. If, for online slots,  it is calculated globally, the RTP would be more insignifacant for short term players.

 

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RTP is calculated after millions of spins, 4000 buys is not that significant to prove anything when you make your case against authorities. Yet it is absurd that you haven't got a proper win among 4000 buys.

Please correct me if i am wrong but RTP in bonus buys and RTP in bonuses won in the base game are also different.

epic wins 1000x and beyondFrom $10 to $35,900...the amazing journey to the Tesla

What a nice gesture.

Drive safe buddy...

general casino talkHow often do you win big?

This is interesting. I was thinking i am out of luck but i get a 1000x at least once a month.

I guess it depends on how much you play slots but with the amounts you mentioned above, there is no chance you would be in profit with gambling.

casinogrounds promotions[CG ADVENT CALENDAR] General thread

I participated every day and did not win a single thing, neither in daily nor in the grand raffle. Now it feels more "casino grounds" to me :):)

congrats to everyone

casinogrounds promotions[GIVEAWAY] Ankh Of Anubis (Play'N'Go)
17 hours ago, Nelan said:

Bonus can potentially give fullscreen wilds. That would be 576 times 20x so 11.520x.

 

You basically need fullscreen wilds plus almost fullscreen wilds for the max win of 15.000x. Will that ever happen? Hell no, lol. 
 

Even though you only get 3/4/5 spins on retrigger (1 spin for each scatter starting at a minimum of 3), this game could also potentially give hundreds of spins in one bonus so small wins can add up. Are you ever going to hit the max win of 15.000x on that way? Hell no! :D

 

The pragmatic max wins will never happen either so just don’t believe what they are saying, max win also doesn’t mean it has to happen, max win just means the slot will never pay more than that, even of a miracle happens that would give you a bigger win.

 

There are slots that say you can win xxx in one spin and there are slots that say you can win xxx at max, that’s the difference on book of dead for example, where you can technically get multiple fullscreens of Explorer during one bonus and this slot where you can never get the max win in only 1 spin.

 

500-1000x is already like a Jackpot on this game of you ask me, already need to get close to fullscreen wilds for that.

As far as i know, full screen wilds give 5000x. So in order to achieve 15000x, you need full screen wilds three times during the bonus round.

It seems far fetched but 5000x is not. I am pretty sure we will see a 5000x here soon.

epic wins 1000x and beyondInferno Star - 2500x

Finally 5 stars!

 

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general casino talkWhat is the name of the slot that is like Viking Clash?
10 hours ago, Orius said:

I cannot find it... it is a slot quite similar to Viking Clash... but what is it called? Thanks

It is possibly Age of Asgard

introduce yourselfNew here - Money train 9464x :)

That's crazy, double gun.

I got a 1600x today from the same game and i thought i was the lucky one. Congratz buddy

epic wins 1000x and beyondDanger High Voltage TACOS/KEBABS 1250X

I don't think you have seen a kebab before

general slot talkPlay and go rigged?

No Garga in 1000 spins is possible, so does two consecutive Garga rounds. Both happened to me, so i think you are on the wrong side of the lucky train today. That's gambling brother.

epic wins 1000x and beyondVampires vs Wolves, 1543x & 543x!

My version (i am not sure if there is more than one) says max. win is 1000x.

epic wins 1000x and beyondDOA 2 - Finally i got it too - 29774x
9 minutes ago, Slotspinner said:

HOW DARE YOU CONGRATZZZ :DDDD

You know the funny thing, i was playing with higher stakes but then i watched your win and lowered my stake exactly the same amount with you even though the currencies are different. And then BAM....

Many thanks for the inspiration :)

epic wins 1000x and beyondDOA 2 - Finally i got it too - 29774x

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epic wins 1000x and beyondRise of Merlin! All symbols in free spins?

You may have missed my post from last week. I unlocked all symbols.

 

general casino talkHow many freespins on DoA2

i have played hundreds without a wildline or a decent win. This game should be listed under scratch card games.

general casino talkTesting a theory.

I don't think it is possible to lower RTP once it passes the gambling authority test and confirmation. It can not be touched. Lower RTP versions of certain games for certain casinos are certified seperately as far as i know. 

 

epic wins 1000x and beyondRise of Merlin - 2322x

All symbols unlocked with a whopping 72 spins. Unfortunately Bandicam failed me at the end when 2 spins were left, so i am sharing both the video and the missing final result as a picture below.

 

1133728810_Adsz.jpg.610eec20a850f4cf82e14b58bb4e4cdc.jpg

epic wins 1000x and beyondClean 1000x on Sabaton
33 minutes ago, JeeJee said:

Yeah indeed x1000 for full is... and the funniest thing is the promotion: Win up to 5000x of your stake.. how?

All 5 freespins should land "all wilds" for 5000x

general slot talkMonopoly Live - 2 mishaps in a row

LOL, i am not sure if you see these often but was very interesting to wait for it to be resolved and happened only in 30 seconds in between. What are the odds?

 

 

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general casino talkOdds of getting 10000 megaways and 15 spins on Temple of treasure?

All of the Leander Megaways games are predefined. Most of the slot games are. Selection is just an illusion that they make you think you are deciding your outcome.

For temple of treasure, if max spins with min. 10k ways means a 1000x+ win for sure then it makes sense that it is so seldom. It's a volatile game afterall. So i will appreciate if anybody can share their outcome with 10k max spins.

epic wins 1000x and beyondWhat a month!
3 hours ago, Huggehugg said:

Big congratulations! Remember not to gamble away the winnings ❤️

 

Ohh no worries, it's already in my bank account.

epic wins 1000x and beyondWhat a month!
9 minutes ago, Nick said:

Well you've been busy!!

Cracking wins mate :D

Cheers Nick!

epic wins 1000x and beyondWhat a month!

It's been hell of a ride this month with several 1000x+ wins, let alone relatively smaller big wins. The biggest suprise was Ice Ice Yeti. Also after years of slot spinning finally a wild line on DOA and 300x on 300 shields.

Note: Before you ask, TL is Turkish Liras

 

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300 shields.jpg

general casino talkFirst time i see 5 scatters on Viking Clash
5 hours ago, Schnuggels21 said:

Had 4 once... i think it should give +1 freespin for every extra Scatter but in the trigger it does not

Yes, it was same 6 spins. 

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general casino talkWhy do people think RTP matters? (Slot machines)

You are both right and wrong. Let me explain this mathematically.

You have mentioned billions of spins. Let alone billions, even in millions of spins, RTP can not jump from %50 to %98, even with max. allowed wins. This can only happen during the first tens of thousands of spins. After a certain number of spins played, the RTP travels around +-%1 of the final declared RTP.

After billions of spins, this travel becomes something like +-%0,0001 which indicates it is safe to declare the RTP.

So, you are right that it does not significantly matter if you are going to play a couple of hundered or i.e. 2000 spins but you are wrong that you need to spin billions to see the real RTP

What should matter more is the volatility. 

To be honest, real question here should be if the RTP is calculated globally or casino-based? As you know, it is casino-based in land casinos. If, for online slots,  it is calculated globally, the RTP would be more insignifacant for short term players.

 

complaintsLooking for streamers with a decent amount of followers

RTP is calculated after millions of spins, 4000 buys is not that significant to prove anything when you make your case against authorities. Yet it is absurd that you haven't got a proper win among 4000 buys.

Please correct me if i am wrong but RTP in bonus buys and RTP in bonuses won in the base game are also different.

epic wins 1000x and beyondFrom $10 to $35,900...the amazing journey to the Tesla

What a nice gesture.

Drive safe buddy...

general casino talkHow often do you win big?

This is interesting. I was thinking i am out of luck but i get a 1000x at least once a month.

I guess it depends on how much you play slots but with the amounts you mentioned above, there is no chance you would be in profit with gambling.

casinogrounds promotions[CG ADVENT CALENDAR] General thread

I participated every day and did not win a single thing, neither in daily nor in the grand raffle. Now it feels more "casino grounds" to me :):)

congrats to everyone

casinogrounds promotions[GIVEAWAY] Ankh Of Anubis (Play'N'Go)
17 hours ago, Nelan said:

Bonus can potentially give fullscreen wilds. That would be 576 times 20x so 11.520x.

 

You basically need fullscreen wilds plus almost fullscreen wilds for the max win of 15.000x. Will that ever happen? Hell no, lol. 
 

Even though you only get 3/4/5 spins on retrigger (1 spin for each scatter starting at a minimum of 3), this game could also potentially give hundreds of spins in one bonus so small wins can add up. Are you ever going to hit the max win of 15.000x on that way? Hell no! :D

 

The pragmatic max wins will never happen either so just don’t believe what they are saying, max win also doesn’t mean it has to happen, max win just means the slot will never pay more than that, even of a miracle happens that would give you a bigger win.

 

There are slots that say you can win xxx in one spin and there are slots that say you can win xxx at max, that’s the difference on book of dead for example, where you can technically get multiple fullscreens of Explorer during one bonus and this slot where you can never get the max win in only 1 spin.

 

500-1000x is already like a Jackpot on this game of you ask me, already need to get close to fullscreen wilds for that.

As far as i know, full screen wilds give 5000x. So in order to achieve 15000x, you need full screen wilds three times during the bonus round.

It seems far fetched but 5000x is not. I am pretty sure we will see a 5000x here soon.

epic wins 1000x and beyondInferno Star - 2500x

Finally 5 stars!

 

Screenshot_20191205-111003_Bets10.jpg

general casino talkWhat is the name of the slot that is like Viking Clash?
10 hours ago, Orius said:

I cannot find it... it is a slot quite similar to Viking Clash... but what is it called? Thanks

It is possibly Age of Asgard

introduce yourselfNew here - Money train 9464x :)

That's crazy, double gun.

I got a 1600x today from the same game and i thought i was the lucky one. Congratz buddy

epic wins 1000x and beyondDanger High Voltage TACOS/KEBABS 1250X

I don't think you have seen a kebab before

general slot talkPlay and go rigged?

No Garga in 1000 spins is possible, so does two consecutive Garga rounds. Both happened to me, so i think you are on the wrong side of the lucky train today. That's gambling brother.

epic wins 1000x and beyondVampires vs Wolves, 1543x & 543x!

My version (i am not sure if there is more than one) says max. win is 1000x.

epic wins 1000x and beyondDOA 2 - Finally i got it too - 29774x
9 minutes ago, Slotspinner said:

HOW DARE YOU CONGRATZZZ :DDDD

You know the funny thing, i was playing with higher stakes but then i watched your win and lowered my stake exactly the same amount with you even though the currencies are different. And then BAM....

Many thanks for the inspiration :)

epic wins 1000x and beyondDOA 2 - Finally i got it too - 29774x

20190815_153438.thumb.jpg.fa6bca20ccbe87f1aa4f35d0ea45d304.jpg

epic wins 1000x and beyondRise of Merlin! All symbols in free spins?

You may have missed my post from last week. I unlocked all symbols.

 

general casino talkHow many freespins on DoA2

i have played hundreds without a wildline or a decent win. This game should be listed under scratch card games.

general casino talkTesting a theory.

I don't think it is possible to lower RTP once it passes the gambling authority test and confirmation. It can not be touched. Lower RTP versions of certain games for certain casinos are certified seperately as far as i know. 

 

epic wins 1000x and beyondRise of Merlin - 2322x

All symbols unlocked with a whopping 72 spins. Unfortunately Bandicam failed me at the end when 2 spins were left, so i am sharing both the video and the missing final result as a picture below.

 

1133728810_Adsz.jpg.610eec20a850f4cf82e14b58bb4e4cdc.jpg

epic wins 1000x and beyondClean 1000x on Sabaton
33 minutes ago, JeeJee said:

Yeah indeed x1000 for full is... and the funniest thing is the promotion: Win up to 5000x of your stake.. how?

All 5 freespins should land "all wilds" for 5000x

general slot talkMonopoly Live - 2 mishaps in a row

LOL, i am not sure if you see these often but was very interesting to wait for it to be resolved and happened only in 30 seconds in between. What are the odds?

 

 

Adsız.jpg

Adsız2.jpg

general casino talkOdds of getting 10000 megaways and 15 spins on Temple of treasure?

All of the Leander Megaways games are predefined. Most of the slot games are. Selection is just an illusion that they make you think you are deciding your outcome.

For temple of treasure, if max spins with min. 10k ways means a 1000x+ win for sure then it makes sense that it is so seldom. It's a volatile game afterall. So i will appreciate if anybody can share their outcome with 10k max spins.

epic wins 1000x and beyondWhat a month!
3 hours ago, Huggehugg said:

Big congratulations! Remember not to gamble away the winnings ❤️

 

Ohh no worries, it's already in my bank account.

epic wins 1000x and beyondWhat a month!
9 minutes ago, Nick said:

Well you've been busy!!

Cracking wins mate :D

Cheers Nick!

epic wins 1000x and beyondWhat a month!

It's been hell of a ride this month with several 1000x+ wins, let alone relatively smaller big wins. The biggest suprise was Ice Ice Yeti. Also after years of slot spinning finally a wild line on DOA and 300x on 300 shields.

Note: Before you ask, TL is Turkish Liras

 

dead_or_alive.jpg

extrachili.jpg

ice_ice_yeti.jpg

jammin_jars.jpg

300 shields.jpg

general casino talkFirst time i see 5 scatters on Viking Clash
5 hours ago, Schnuggels21 said:

Had 4 once... i think it should give +1 freespin for every extra Scatter but in the trigger it does not

Yes, it was same 6 spins.