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complaintsPlatinum Play- Not investigating Evolution Gaming

What?!! Can you post a screenshot of that?

complaintsEvolution Gaming scammed me for 5000 euro.

This game provider is the most scammed thing on earth. Don’t ever ever play these games. But if you really wanna do that, put small/cent/1dollar bets - that’s the only way to get some winnings. If you wanna put bigger bets, you can say goodbye to your money. Evo = SCAM. And unfortunately it’s just a tip of the iceberg and this business is so corripted.

The best customers for casinos are players who add big bets. Those will bring the money and they will hardly ever get bigger hits (except streamers). You can see it on these forums: where are all the winnings with 10000x with 20e bet? They do not exist. And trust me, there are LOTS of players betting high stakes all the time!

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1 hour ago, alphacentauri said:

In reply to the original message here about 'why Tracksino removed the number of winners and amounts': Tracksino uses specially constructed software to keep track of the various games that are tracked; unfortunately due to a oddity in how that worked, there were occasional issues recording it and it was removed due to not being consistently recorded.  Tracksino now keeps track of this information, has fixed a bug where 0x rolls were not recorded and also started keeping the video recordings of non-trivial rounds.

Can’t take Evolution Gaming seriously anymore. Actually it has affected my opinion about the whole industry, but in their games it’s so obvious.

But really interested to follow these threads. Keep on posting scam videos!

epic wins 1000x and beyondCan never get these wins on bigger stakes. Nice nonetheless

That’s the deepest problem of these games. They are rigged and won’t give you big wins with bigger bets. It’s always like that and will be. Trust me, I’ve played these 10-15 years.

if you wanna win big, deposit 10000e and play big bets. Then the machine could give you some money back and ”big win”, but probably not before you’ve played most of the money.

generalHOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU SPEND ON GAMBLING?

Exactly. Same thing. I’ve got bored to the fact that you can’t never win again after winning once. Never. I understand that casinos don’t want to take risks, but because it’s not based on luck, players get bored. That’s why I got bored. Casinos / game providers have to rig the games cause competition is tough.

Funny thing is also that what ever bet you’re playing from 40cent to 5euro and you’re lucky to win something, it’s ALWAYS around 100e. So just a hint for everybody, if you really wanna play these games, don’t ever put big bets. Forget the big wins like streams get.

Btw there are some open source slots online designed by software designers. If you try them, you realise they’re working differently than real online casino slots.

generalHOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU SPEND ON GAMBLING?

At my worst times I’ve played 500e in a week, but since I never won anything big I quit it. So happy I did that.

This business is so fishy and scammed. And the last step was after seeing all this Evolution Gaming scams etc.

Streamers winning big all the time, but the truth is that normal players hardly win anything. I’ve played most of time with bets like 5e+, but still my biggest win was on 20cent and 1200x. Tells something about how these games work. These games are so rigged. Nowadays depositing 20e now and then and then realising that it’s just absolutely bullshit. More happy to put my money on lottery & games that are really dependent on your luck.

And after over 10 years of gambling and seeing all the shit around online casino business I’m so tired of hearing people telling it’s just luck. Well let me tell you, it’s not. It’s just fucking stupid and naive believe especially knowing that Malta is one of the most corrupted countries in the world.

complaintsMonopoly Live Scam
On 25/05/2020 at 15:24, NickG said:

Is it rigged? Just looking at the amount of options on the wheel would tell you enough.

I have to agree though that it's pretty naive to trust companies and don't even start about regulatory bodies. It's a fact that Malta is in the top 10 countries that is corrupt on all levels, you can just buy a passport there so you can become a EU citizen all you have to show is money which is used to it's full potential by eastern europe shady business men. Brussel does not seem to care. Why would that be? Money.

 

History (especially last 10 years) also has more then enough proven that they will do anything for money. Just look at the so called "green energy" scam or how the ECB is handling the corona crisis in favor of the southern countries. Isn't it conveniant for france that a french woman is head of the ECB now and before her an italian?

 

We live in a time where the truth is always twisted in some way that benefit certain companies and individuals in pure cash. So be skeptical about anything, do your own research and come up with your own conclusions.

Exactly. You nailed it.

big winsMONOPOLY LIVE 10x 2ROLL round canceled
10 hours ago, Evolution Gaming Official said:

Hello Players,

Regarding the game round discussed in this thread, which occurred on MONOPOLY Live on May 18, 2020 at 09:48:25 UTC time, we would like to update you.  During this round the wheel landed on Chance then Mr. Monopoly gave a 10x multiplier and on the re-spin the wheel landed on 2 Rolls.  After the building phase of the game where multipliers are placed on the properties, it was time to roll.  This is when we learned the dice shaker was broken and would not roll, and after trying repeatedly to fix the shaker the game was cancelled resulting in players getting their bets back.  Our procedures do not allow for a hand roll for obvious game integrity (ensuring randomness) reasons so this was not an option either.

For anyone betting on 2 Rolls of course this is a horrible outcome.  We are in communication with every casino partner who had players with bets on 2 Rolls in this round and and advised them of what the typical expected range of outcomes would have been based on the mathematics of the game.  We expect that they will soon be in contact with the players who have been negatively affected.

Finally, we do our best every day to minimise mistakes or equipment malfunctions, however this is live casino gaming and these things do happen on very rare occasion.  We are sorry, and we have communicated all relevant information to the site where you play, so they may bring resolution to this matter.  

Thank you,

 

Evolution Gaming

 

Well good that you immediately fixed it and it was working just fine in the next two rolls that hit just few spins after that. ?

complaintsMonopoly Live Scam
32 minutes ago, olempiaps said:

You have to realize at the END of the day any casino is still a operating business that is about efficiency and profit. 

Yes they don’t have the need to rig certain games because they have a profit Edge anyways. But your telling me if CEO STAN comes in a meeting with a way/idea to increase overall gross profit from 200m a year to 400m a year Even if illegal or rigging a certain game/slot to boost efficiency if they can legally Get away with it and you think they wont? 
 

then your just plain and simple stupid.

Don't be naive. Everybody knows it's not about that. Your thinking is stupid and narrow minded when you say that same answer we've heard million times.

Rigging the games is not about making instant more money or not letting players to win, but making players more addicted and making them to put more money on the game. Rigging the game is controlling the game and cheating players to think it's just bad luck. For example in Monopoly, as we've talked in another thread, there are sessions almost everyday that there's no 4 rolls in 250-300 spins. That's the most clever way to control this game, because people can see the spins from last 4 rolls (they check it on tracksino.com) and keep on betting and betting on 4 rolls because they think it must hit soon. If you wanna calculate the probability that 4 rolls not appearing in 300 spins, it's (53/54)^300. I can show you some math data that tell you how many times that scenario could happen in a year. If you rig the game it can happen when ever you want.

So rigging the game is like maximizing the winnings - they get lots of players, give decent winnings every now and then and finally suck all of their money. All of this well controlled without any risk for casinos.

big winsMONOPOLY LIVE 10x 2ROLL round canceled

Guys, thanks for sharing all this. I couldn't be more happy that I stopped playing these games...

complaintsMonopoly Live Scam

Hahha ??? And there are still people who think this is not a scam...

I'm sad for two reasons.

1. I've lost few thousand euros to Evolution Gaming during these years.

2. I've supported corrupted casino business. It's sad cause probably some Mafia assholes get money from those games.

It's obvious that this game is 100% scam. And this business is corrupted. Probably all these gaming authorities are corrupted as well. They've got their money to shut up. Doesn't surprise me at all. Still fun to read this forum and find something new about Evo Gaming every week. ?

Time to quit boys!

complaintsEvolution Live Roulette - Magnets Proof
9 hours ago, Rexxor420 said:

You should see gambling as Entertainment. :)

Its actually a pretty good comparison because if you watch a movie it has most of the time alot of bs in it aswell.  :)

 

 

 

 

 

Absolutely, that's exactly how it should be. But the thing is that these modern machines have technology that is cheating you by removing the "pure" randomness. Game providers have all tools to do that. And that's bullshit in my opinion.

Before the streaming culture exploded in casino scene there was few cases here in Finland that few celebrities filmed their jackpot wins in video. They were invited by casinos to play slots. And suddenly these persons won the biggest jackpots from slots and happened to film that moment in video (they started filming it before the jackpot was hit). And you're idiot if you think that it happened just by accident. I'm not saying that these slots are not random, but game providers & casinos have all the tools to control these games. But maybe it's something that is actually legal under current gambling laws if a game provider can just prove enough randomness in the games. Like Evolution Gaming Monopoly - it's random, but this randomness is still done by a computer.

complaintsEvolution Live Roulette - Magnets Proof

Yeah. I played casino games over ten years, but I had to stop it completely because this business has become too greedy and untrustworthy. I'm so happy that people have uploaded these videos online. It has really opened my eyes. Believe me - if this shit is happening in live games, it's happening in slots as well. The video you uploaded doesn't surprise me at all.

I saw this one in the other thread.

 

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37 minutes ago, ElJayDee said:

I once was playing 0 neighbours on roulette(ladbrokes roulette) and it came 0 section 5 times in a row.

i proceeded to up my bet to around £400 a spin from £70.

it came in another 5 or 6 times in a row - however those 5 or 6 spins “bet not confirmed” on the 7th spin I up to £600 spin thinking if it does come in it’s huge.

 

Well it seems that you haven't read my previous message about Monopoly variance and you didn't understand my point from mathematical perspective, I just attach one picture here and say that I'm AGAIN third time in this same day watching Evolution Gaming Sic Bo with 300 throws without one triple. It means that they have absolute control of their games and they can manipulate the variance to be bigger that it actually is. Of course it's understandable to do that on table games meaning that people keep on betting that specific number until they loose all money.

But hey, everybody can do whatever they want with their money. As much as I love casino games and understand that players will always lose, personally I don't want to be scammed.

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1 hour ago, Stevej said:

Didn’t mean to troll. Just thinking it’s a bit comical.

Right. Let’s talk about maths and variance. Today I followed Sic Bo by Evolution Gaming. I joined a session and it was immediately 300-400 rolls without triples (I know because I saw the last one). Took hours. Odds for triples is 1:36. Maybe I happened to join in a very bad moment. Btw for some reason they are not providing long term stats for this game.
 

If you wanna calculate odds for triples not appearing in 300 rolls, it works like this: (35/36)^300. That’s 0,02% probability. I even made javascript rng app to check how often that scenario could happen. It’s a pseudo rng, but it’s fair enough to show the variance. I can link it later.

According to my app, that should happen about once in 30000-100000 rolls. I’ve seen 200-300 ”cold scenarios” almost in every session that I’ve followed a bit longer. I used to play this game quite much. I’m also very interested how the variance works in this game.

Please, try it. Take three dices. Throw it on a table and try to get 300 throws without having three same numbers. Tell me if you made it.

I asked another forum if Sic Bo is animated and computer rng calculated. It looks real. Someone answered me ”why would it be rng because it’s same thing with real dices”.

Well that’s exactly the thing I’m thinking here. Why do they have make everything feel fishy and scam?? They are saying it’s live casino, but in the end it seems to be just a computer based bullshit casino hidden in a live casino environment. That’s one really big problem with Evolution and it’s enough for me to say that they are just absolute scam. It feels that they are not ready to take any risks at all, and maybe not giving massive wins to many players is the only way to keep casinos to provide Evolution’s games on their sites.

 

A little fix. 300 throws without triples happen once in 100000-300000 throws.

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Didn’t mean to troll. Just thinking it’s a bit comical.

Right. Let’s talk about maths and variance. Today I followed Sic Bo by Evolution Gaming. I joined a session and it was immediately 300-400 rolls without triples (I know because I saw the last one). Took hours. Odds for triples is 1:36. Maybe I happened to join in a very bad moment. Btw for some reason they are not providing long term stats for this game.
 

If you wanna calculate odds for triples not appearing in 300 rolls, it works like this: (35/36)^300. That’s 0,02% probability. I even made javascript rng app to check how often that scenario could happen. It’s a pseudo rng, but it’s fair enough to show the variance. I can link it later.

According to my app, that should happen about once in 30000-100000 rolls. I’ve seen 200-300 ”cold scenarios” almost in every session that I’ve followed a bit longer. I used to play this game quite much. I’m also very interested how the variance works in this game.

Please, try it. Take three dices. Throw it on a table and try to get 300 throws without having three same numbers. Tell me if you made it.

I asked another forum if Sic Bo is animated and computer rng calculated. It looks real. Someone answered me ”why would it be rng because it’s same thing with real dices”.

Well that’s exactly the thing I’m thinking here. Why do they have make everything feel fishy and scam?? They are saying it’s live casino, but in the end it seems to be just a computer based bullshit casino hidden in a live casino environment. That’s one really big problem with Evolution and it’s enough for me to say that they are just absolute scam. It feels that they are not ready to take any risks at all, and maybe not giving massive wins to many players is the only way to keep casinos to provide Evolution’s games on their sites.

 

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3 minutes ago, ivanas69 said:

It is strange but LIVE MONOPOLY stared give big prizes which we not seen long time after this 9600x.

Yesterday evening was 10x4R with result 480x total players 1335,amount won 1.2million euros.

Today morning was 8x5x2R with result 800x total players 721,amount won 0.86million euros.

Today evening 10x4R with result 970x total players 1457,amount won 2.5million euros.

Yes. That is exactly what I meant in my last message. They have absolutely control on this game.

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Ofc it's impossible to bring any actual proof. And in the end, nobody really cares. Whatever you show to people there will always be 3000 players in Monopoly. Btw today there's been 5x8x2rolls and another 10x4rolls. I'm not surprised at all. Hopefully somebody got good money!

Started thinking. Where's a game provider that could show what's inside these games, I mean, show what's really "under the hood"? There has to be a reason why Monopoly gets so much negative feedback. I'm a software designer and loved to see some deep technical data about these games. Like open source slots! ?There's nothing special and classified inside the games. It's just basic rng stuff, right? 

Youtube is full of these infinitely spinning wheel videos and all weird shit related to Monopoly. And it's hosted from 90's love-ferry looking casino room in some eastern country, though Evo is a Swedish company. ? Why does it have to be like that? I'm sorry but my personal trust for this provider is pure zero.

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Yeah. I saw this 9600x and had to look for this topic. This game and provider is the biggest legal scam on internet. Somehow I understand that they have to control it not giving 9600x to 2000 players, but that's not how it should be. And btw the big hit before that was 6400x and it happened few months back approximately the same time and low amount of players.

In Tracksino.com you can follow the stats of this game. It's hosted by Evolution as well. There's no public API for Evolution Games so it means that they give the information to Tracksino.com. It's good advertising for online casinos.

They used to have stats for "amount of players", but like someone here said they've removed it. Now we know why.

You can also see on Tracksino how many spins between 4 rolls i.e. I've noticed that in rush hours (with many players) there's over 400 spins between 4 rolls continuously. Happens in every week, or at least I've happened to see that many times already in last 2 months after I've realized it. That's because everyone's playing 4 rolls with big bets and waiting for the next rolls. If you wanna calculate the probability for one number of 54 numbers not appearing in 400 spins is (53/54)^400. That probability is ridiculous. You can calculate that should only happen approximately 5 times in one year. That mathematical fact proves that this game is controlled - don't care if it's motor, guy behind the wheel, whatever - but it's 100% controlled and scam. The players who have been in this "cold session" know that wheel is avoiding the rolls with all cost! It looks bit funny actually cause it's so obvious...  I attached few screenshots I took along the way. These all were over 400 spins before hitting 4 rolls again.

And now if someone thinks that stats still show that 4 rolls appearing 1/54% in long run. Well, it hits continuously when there's low amount of players (when you've gone to sleep).

It's sad to see casino business going corrupted.

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complaintsPlatinum Play- Not investigating Evolution Gaming

What?!! Can you post a screenshot of that?

complaintsEvolution Gaming scammed me for 5000 euro.

This game provider is the most scammed thing on earth. Don’t ever ever play these games. But if you really wanna do that, put small/cent/1dollar bets - that’s the only way to get some winnings. If you wanna put bigger bets, you can say goodbye to your money. Evo = SCAM. And unfortunately it’s just a tip of the iceberg and this business is so corripted.

The best customers for casinos are players who add big bets. Those will bring the money and they will hardly ever get bigger hits (except streamers). You can see it on these forums: where are all the winnings with 10000x with 20e bet? They do not exist. And trust me, there are LOTS of players betting high stakes all the time!

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1 hour ago, alphacentauri said:

In reply to the original message here about 'why Tracksino removed the number of winners and amounts': Tracksino uses specially constructed software to keep track of the various games that are tracked; unfortunately due to a oddity in how that worked, there were occasional issues recording it and it was removed due to not being consistently recorded.  Tracksino now keeps track of this information, has fixed a bug where 0x rolls were not recorded and also started keeping the video recordings of non-trivial rounds.

Can’t take Evolution Gaming seriously anymore. Actually it has affected my opinion about the whole industry, but in their games it’s so obvious.

But really interested to follow these threads. Keep on posting scam videos!

epic wins 1000x and beyondCan never get these wins on bigger stakes. Nice nonetheless

That’s the deepest problem of these games. They are rigged and won’t give you big wins with bigger bets. It’s always like that and will be. Trust me, I’ve played these 10-15 years.

if you wanna win big, deposit 10000e and play big bets. Then the machine could give you some money back and ”big win”, but probably not before you’ve played most of the money.

generalHOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU SPEND ON GAMBLING?

Exactly. Same thing. I’ve got bored to the fact that you can’t never win again after winning once. Never. I understand that casinos don’t want to take risks, but because it’s not based on luck, players get bored. That’s why I got bored. Casinos / game providers have to rig the games cause competition is tough.

Funny thing is also that what ever bet you’re playing from 40cent to 5euro and you’re lucky to win something, it’s ALWAYS around 100e. So just a hint for everybody, if you really wanna play these games, don’t ever put big bets. Forget the big wins like streams get.

Btw there are some open source slots online designed by software designers. If you try them, you realise they’re working differently than real online casino slots.

generalHOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU SPEND ON GAMBLING?

At my worst times I’ve played 500e in a week, but since I never won anything big I quit it. So happy I did that.

This business is so fishy and scammed. And the last step was after seeing all this Evolution Gaming scams etc.

Streamers winning big all the time, but the truth is that normal players hardly win anything. I’ve played most of time with bets like 5e+, but still my biggest win was on 20cent and 1200x. Tells something about how these games work. These games are so rigged. Nowadays depositing 20e now and then and then realising that it’s just absolutely bullshit. More happy to put my money on lottery & games that are really dependent on your luck.

And after over 10 years of gambling and seeing all the shit around online casino business I’m so tired of hearing people telling it’s just luck. Well let me tell you, it’s not. It’s just fucking stupid and naive believe especially knowing that Malta is one of the most corrupted countries in the world.

complaintsMonopoly Live Scam
On 25/05/2020 at 15:24, NickG said:

Is it rigged? Just looking at the amount of options on the wheel would tell you enough.

I have to agree though that it's pretty naive to trust companies and don't even start about regulatory bodies. It's a fact that Malta is in the top 10 countries that is corrupt on all levels, you can just buy a passport there so you can become a EU citizen all you have to show is money which is used to it's full potential by eastern europe shady business men. Brussel does not seem to care. Why would that be? Money.

 

History (especially last 10 years) also has more then enough proven that they will do anything for money. Just look at the so called "green energy" scam or how the ECB is handling the corona crisis in favor of the southern countries. Isn't it conveniant for france that a french woman is head of the ECB now and before her an italian?

 

We live in a time where the truth is always twisted in some way that benefit certain companies and individuals in pure cash. So be skeptical about anything, do your own research and come up with your own conclusions.

Exactly. You nailed it.

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10 hours ago, Evolution Gaming Official said:

Hello Players,

Regarding the game round discussed in this thread, which occurred on MONOPOLY Live on May 18, 2020 at 09:48:25 UTC time, we would like to update you.  During this round the wheel landed on Chance then Mr. Monopoly gave a 10x multiplier and on the re-spin the wheel landed on 2 Rolls.  After the building phase of the game where multipliers are placed on the properties, it was time to roll.  This is when we learned the dice shaker was broken and would not roll, and after trying repeatedly to fix the shaker the game was cancelled resulting in players getting their bets back.  Our procedures do not allow for a hand roll for obvious game integrity (ensuring randomness) reasons so this was not an option either.

For anyone betting on 2 Rolls of course this is a horrible outcome.  We are in communication with every casino partner who had players with bets on 2 Rolls in this round and and advised them of what the typical expected range of outcomes would have been based on the mathematics of the game.  We expect that they will soon be in contact with the players who have been negatively affected.

Finally, we do our best every day to minimise mistakes or equipment malfunctions, however this is live casino gaming and these things do happen on very rare occasion.  We are sorry, and we have communicated all relevant information to the site where you play, so they may bring resolution to this matter.  

Thank you,

 

Evolution Gaming

 

Well good that you immediately fixed it and it was working just fine in the next two rolls that hit just few spins after that. ?

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32 minutes ago, olempiaps said:

You have to realize at the END of the day any casino is still a operating business that is about efficiency and profit. 

Yes they don’t have the need to rig certain games because they have a profit Edge anyways. But your telling me if CEO STAN comes in a meeting with a way/idea to increase overall gross profit from 200m a year to 400m a year Even if illegal or rigging a certain game/slot to boost efficiency if they can legally Get away with it and you think they wont? 
 

then your just plain and simple stupid.

Don't be naive. Everybody knows it's not about that. Your thinking is stupid and narrow minded when you say that same answer we've heard million times.

Rigging the games is not about making instant more money or not letting players to win, but making players more addicted and making them to put more money on the game. Rigging the game is controlling the game and cheating players to think it's just bad luck. For example in Monopoly, as we've talked in another thread, there are sessions almost everyday that there's no 4 rolls in 250-300 spins. That's the most clever way to control this game, because people can see the spins from last 4 rolls (they check it on tracksino.com) and keep on betting and betting on 4 rolls because they think it must hit soon. If you wanna calculate the probability that 4 rolls not appearing in 300 spins, it's (53/54)^300. I can show you some math data that tell you how many times that scenario could happen in a year. If you rig the game it can happen when ever you want.

So rigging the game is like maximizing the winnings - they get lots of players, give decent winnings every now and then and finally suck all of their money. All of this well controlled without any risk for casinos.

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Guys, thanks for sharing all this. I couldn't be more happy that I stopped playing these games...

complaintsMonopoly Live Scam

Hahha ??? And there are still people who think this is not a scam...

I'm sad for two reasons.

1. I've lost few thousand euros to Evolution Gaming during these years.

2. I've supported corrupted casino business. It's sad cause probably some Mafia assholes get money from those games.

It's obvious that this game is 100% scam. And this business is corrupted. Probably all these gaming authorities are corrupted as well. They've got their money to shut up. Doesn't surprise me at all. Still fun to read this forum and find something new about Evo Gaming every week. ?

Time to quit boys!

complaintsEvolution Live Roulette - Magnets Proof
9 hours ago, Rexxor420 said:

You should see gambling as Entertainment. :)

Its actually a pretty good comparison because if you watch a movie it has most of the time alot of bs in it aswell.  :)

 

 

 

 

 

Absolutely, that's exactly how it should be. But the thing is that these modern machines have technology that is cheating you by removing the "pure" randomness. Game providers have all tools to do that. And that's bullshit in my opinion.

Before the streaming culture exploded in casino scene there was few cases here in Finland that few celebrities filmed their jackpot wins in video. They were invited by casinos to play slots. And suddenly these persons won the biggest jackpots from slots and happened to film that moment in video (they started filming it before the jackpot was hit). And you're idiot if you think that it happened just by accident. I'm not saying that these slots are not random, but game providers & casinos have all the tools to control these games. But maybe it's something that is actually legal under current gambling laws if a game provider can just prove enough randomness in the games. Like Evolution Gaming Monopoly - it's random, but this randomness is still done by a computer.

complaintsEvolution Live Roulette - Magnets Proof

Yeah. I played casino games over ten years, but I had to stop it completely because this business has become too greedy and untrustworthy. I'm so happy that people have uploaded these videos online. It has really opened my eyes. Believe me - if this shit is happening in live games, it's happening in slots as well. The video you uploaded doesn't surprise me at all.

I saw this one in the other thread.

 

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37 minutes ago, ElJayDee said:

I once was playing 0 neighbours on roulette(ladbrokes roulette) and it came 0 section 5 times in a row.

i proceeded to up my bet to around £400 a spin from £70.

it came in another 5 or 6 times in a row - however those 5 or 6 spins “bet not confirmed” on the 7th spin I up to £600 spin thinking if it does come in it’s huge.

 

Well it seems that you haven't read my previous message about Monopoly variance and you didn't understand my point from mathematical perspective, I just attach one picture here and say that I'm AGAIN third time in this same day watching Evolution Gaming Sic Bo with 300 throws without one triple. It means that they have absolute control of their games and they can manipulate the variance to be bigger that it actually is. Of course it's understandable to do that on table games meaning that people keep on betting that specific number until they loose all money.

But hey, everybody can do whatever they want with their money. As much as I love casino games and understand that players will always lose, personally I don't want to be scammed.

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1 hour ago, Stevej said:

Didn’t mean to troll. Just thinking it’s a bit comical.

Right. Let’s talk about maths and variance. Today I followed Sic Bo by Evolution Gaming. I joined a session and it was immediately 300-400 rolls without triples (I know because I saw the last one). Took hours. Odds for triples is 1:36. Maybe I happened to join in a very bad moment. Btw for some reason they are not providing long term stats for this game.
 

If you wanna calculate odds for triples not appearing in 300 rolls, it works like this: (35/36)^300. That’s 0,02% probability. I even made javascript rng app to check how often that scenario could happen. It’s a pseudo rng, but it’s fair enough to show the variance. I can link it later.

According to my app, that should happen about once in 30000-100000 rolls. I’ve seen 200-300 ”cold scenarios” almost in every session that I’ve followed a bit longer. I used to play this game quite much. I’m also very interested how the variance works in this game.

Please, try it. Take three dices. Throw it on a table and try to get 300 throws without having three same numbers. Tell me if you made it.

I asked another forum if Sic Bo is animated and computer rng calculated. It looks real. Someone answered me ”why would it be rng because it’s same thing with real dices”.

Well that’s exactly the thing I’m thinking here. Why do they have make everything feel fishy and scam?? They are saying it’s live casino, but in the end it seems to be just a computer based bullshit casino hidden in a live casino environment. That’s one really big problem with Evolution and it’s enough for me to say that they are just absolute scam. It feels that they are not ready to take any risks at all, and maybe not giving massive wins to many players is the only way to keep casinos to provide Evolution’s games on their sites.

 

A little fix. 300 throws without triples happen once in 100000-300000 throws.

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Didn’t mean to troll. Just thinking it’s a bit comical.

Right. Let’s talk about maths and variance. Today I followed Sic Bo by Evolution Gaming. I joined a session and it was immediately 300-400 rolls without triples (I know because I saw the last one). Took hours. Odds for triples is 1:36. Maybe I happened to join in a very bad moment. Btw for some reason they are not providing long term stats for this game.
 

If you wanna calculate odds for triples not appearing in 300 rolls, it works like this: (35/36)^300. That’s 0,02% probability. I even made javascript rng app to check how often that scenario could happen. It’s a pseudo rng, but it’s fair enough to show the variance. I can link it later.

According to my app, that should happen about once in 30000-100000 rolls. I’ve seen 200-300 ”cold scenarios” almost in every session that I’ve followed a bit longer. I used to play this game quite much. I’m also very interested how the variance works in this game.

Please, try it. Take three dices. Throw it on a table and try to get 300 throws without having three same numbers. Tell me if you made it.

I asked another forum if Sic Bo is animated and computer rng calculated. It looks real. Someone answered me ”why would it be rng because it’s same thing with real dices”.

Well that’s exactly the thing I’m thinking here. Why do they have make everything feel fishy and scam?? They are saying it’s live casino, but in the end it seems to be just a computer based bullshit casino hidden in a live casino environment. That’s one really big problem with Evolution and it’s enough for me to say that they are just absolute scam. It feels that they are not ready to take any risks at all, and maybe not giving massive wins to many players is the only way to keep casinos to provide Evolution’s games on their sites.

 

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3 minutes ago, ivanas69 said:

It is strange but LIVE MONOPOLY stared give big prizes which we not seen long time after this 9600x.

Yesterday evening was 10x4R with result 480x total players 1335,amount won 1.2million euros.

Today morning was 8x5x2R with result 800x total players 721,amount won 0.86million euros.

Today evening 10x4R with result 970x total players 1457,amount won 2.5million euros.

Yes. That is exactly what I meant in my last message. They have absolutely control on this game.

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Ofc it's impossible to bring any actual proof. And in the end, nobody really cares. Whatever you show to people there will always be 3000 players in Monopoly. Btw today there's been 5x8x2rolls and another 10x4rolls. I'm not surprised at all. Hopefully somebody got good money!

Started thinking. Where's a game provider that could show what's inside these games, I mean, show what's really "under the hood"? There has to be a reason why Monopoly gets so much negative feedback. I'm a software designer and loved to see some deep technical data about these games. Like open source slots! ?There's nothing special and classified inside the games. It's just basic rng stuff, right? 

Youtube is full of these infinitely spinning wheel videos and all weird shit related to Monopoly. And it's hosted from 90's love-ferry looking casino room in some eastern country, though Evo is a Swedish company. ? Why does it have to be like that? I'm sorry but my personal trust for this provider is pure zero.

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Yeah. I saw this 9600x and had to look for this topic. This game and provider is the biggest legal scam on internet. Somehow I understand that they have to control it not giving 9600x to 2000 players, but that's not how it should be. And btw the big hit before that was 6400x and it happened few months back approximately the same time and low amount of players.

In Tracksino.com you can follow the stats of this game. It's hosted by Evolution as well. There's no public API for Evolution Games so it means that they give the information to Tracksino.com. It's good advertising for online casinos.

They used to have stats for "amount of players", but like someone here said they've removed it. Now we know why.

You can also see on Tracksino how many spins between 4 rolls i.e. I've noticed that in rush hours (with many players) there's over 400 spins between 4 rolls continuously. Happens in every week, or at least I've happened to see that many times already in last 2 months after I've realized it. That's because everyone's playing 4 rolls with big bets and waiting for the next rolls. If you wanna calculate the probability for one number of 54 numbers not appearing in 400 spins is (53/54)^400. That probability is ridiculous. You can calculate that should only happen approximately 5 times in one year. That mathematical fact proves that this game is controlled - don't care if it's motor, guy behind the wheel, whatever - but it's 100% controlled and scam. The players who have been in this "cold session" know that wheel is avoiding the rolls with all cost! It looks bit funny actually cause it's so obvious...  I attached few screenshots I took along the way. These all were over 400 spins before hitting 4 rolls again.

And now if someone thinks that stats still show that 4 rolls appearing 1/54% in long run. Well, it hits continuously when there's low amount of players (when you've gone to sleep).

It's sad to see casino business going corrupted.

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