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general casino talkTrada Casino - Dodgy RTP

well I got banned from CM for asking questions about Trada 2M ago.. 

@SlotspinnerDM me his contact info if possible, thanks. The gloves are off, trust me ? Dublin has become quite criminal so I've heared. 

general casino talkTrada Casino - Dodgy RTP

Well they are misleading players for a long time. Fortunately, individual charges are being filed against this ' Rachael' and 'Conor' ( we've had contact with legislators from Ireland, so potentially even criminal, that's what they deserve) , they can also expect a call from my lawyer for a future civil charge, as I;ve been given the green light by local authorities. 

They. just tried to screw over the wrong guy.. and this will have impact on their future, that is for sure. 

general casino talkAskGamblers - Player friendly or Casino friendly??

Everything on AG (even the name) implies a player driven site, while it is an extended marketing tool. It is real tradecraft.. I've posted a forum thopic on AG regarding multiple fake reviews ( duplicates within same operation brand, more reviews from same user on 1 joint,  single accounts  inactive after that did only 1 thing: post review . Supported with screens.. Got banned from the site.  

Lol.. they are a joke

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general casino talkAskGamblers - Player friendly or Casino friendly??

@BoracicLint There is not such a thing as being partially independent while claiming unbiased.. I totally agree with Trada casino, they are fraudulent, scamming people, but they maintain 1st place as recommending operations. 

These sites should give a full disclosure regarding financing structure, and potential conflict of interest. They do not do that, while if they are independent, its information that would only emphasise and proof this claim.. Not the case.. zero logic not to provide this.. unless there are terms/services in exchange for funding operations, not to be disclosed by public. 

introduce yourselfFiekie247 - New Here

@copyyzz You are right, I will leave it with this. Its a bit of frustration coming out, caused by interactions with similar named account elsewhere. 

However, I do propagate that new users report any conflict of interest, if there is one. Don't know if this is the case for Fieke247, I'm also not suggestion. Maybe I'm overreacting, but in general, such information can put things in perspective.

But anyway, welcome again, ?

introduce yourselfHenkka1986

Hi, and welcome indeed!

 

general casino talkAskGamblers - Player friendly or Casino friendly??

@J_B_T Catena Media, a company that has strong connection with gambling operations, and in fact runs several, is current owner of Askgamblers.. They even state the 'use of the site for marketing at request by customer'.  To my knowledge its role/ownership, is anything but clearly presented on the site.. nor do they report any conflict of interest.. Real tradecraft, in my opinion, and many gamers will not be aware of this.. 

Nothing wrong in using this as a marketing tool, but it should be made clear for visitors, as they claim 'player driven'.. 

below is copy past of section, that can be fined here: https://www.catenamedia.com/app/uploads/2019/08/Catena_Media_Interim_Report_Q2_2019.pdf

"

WHAT BROUGHT REVENUE
DOWN IN THE SECOND QUARTER

Second quarter revenue turned out below our expectations. There are four primary causes:

  • May and June are traditionally weak months for sports

  • New, rapidly implemented regulations in the UK

  • Regulatory impact in France

  • Large player winnings at casino, which had a negative

    impact on the revenue sharing

  • Still no improvements in Sweden

 "

generalSpinia casino

Best way to check is contacting your local governing body..  And don't play if illegal.

Spinia for instance, also allows players from holland, while this is illegal by dutch law, and in fact in breach of T&C.. As long as casino profit is +, they will even pay out ( again breaching own terms), but if e.g. you win the 1M jackpot: they pull the card ' you breached terms, as gambling from country were forbidden.'.  This of course being ludicrous, as they actively block several countries from even making an account: countries that have strong enforcement and monitoring in place.. They have a clear profits vs. chance of being detected/fined by government model, misleading players, putting them at risk..  Watch out..

introduce yourselfFiekie247 - New Here

Welcome Fiekie247would love you reaction on open topics discussion, however - this time with valid arguments that are supported by evidence-, this is not Askgamblers. Attempts to discredit critical posters (me for instance), without providing any evidence, and more importantly`; doing this without even providing arguments on topic. ( or maybe instead of?) will receive appropriate (unbiased) public ruling. 

If there is any conflict of interest, please report this ( no problem, but others should be aware of this).

 

Again welcome!

general casino talkGeneral warning for players from Holland ( Tradacasino.com, N1 and many more)

No they are based on my own experience, Bwin-Unibet-Pokerstarts already got a 500K fine. 

I agree on you statement, this is typically dutch, turning a blind eye sometimes.  But times are changing, and getting closer to big fines, also for minor operations, you might not want to risk this.  Deny payout vs loosing income after as result, is shifting radically as enforcement picks up.. Several operations have even added NL to restricted already, probably because of this, and ofcourse aiming for valid license applications coming year. Operations that have received complaints/reports from players to the KSA, regardless of  KSA warning or fine, showing violations will be handled similar.

general casino talkGeneral warning for players from Holland ( Tradacasino.com, N1 and many more)

If location based restricting law  is entirely up to the player: no problem, so they should also not restrict US, Belgium, Italy, ect...  Should not make a difference right? 

 

And offering a service within a country, doesnt mean this is legit by proxy in neighbouring entities.

general casino talkGeneral warning for players from Holland ( Tradacasino.com, N1 and many more)

If a player knows the operation is illegal, he can be fined and even face criminal charges. And targeted advertising and IDEAL formulated primary candidates to investigate, willingly offering play to Holland ( should be restricted from) is also enough. Certainly if reported. 

But what I'm talking about is I: every win can be potentialy  confiscated by the casino, as are account funds, as you are in breach of T &C.

II: If they would payout ( violating own terms) players are at risk of getting everything confiscated ( regardless of paying tax).. 

Don't get your hand trapped in one of these operations, trying to milk players without major risk from there side.. Trada and N1 will be banned from official licensing btw coming years, application cool off for 2 years, as they violate right now. 

 

introduce yourselfIntro

No problemo, just checked you site, also started twitter today? 

introduce yourselfIntro

Hi Peter, 

You can make your own topic, for introduction, this is replying to mine. Fine by me, but just letting you know.

1987 date of birth? 

general casino talkGeneral warning for players from Holland ( Tradacasino.com, N1 and many more)

Dear all,

With dutch Gambling authority, finally starting to enforce the illegal offering to gambling to Dutch players ( see here), I would like to warn players from Holland falling in this trap, until legislation is up to date. I filed an official complaint to Trada Casino months ago, requisition proof of dutch licensing, after It became apparent to me that my play could be illegal.

Trada blocked my account, funds gone... Official reply

"

Having reviewed your case we shall not be processing your request for a refund. As per our terms and conditions ,it is the responsibility of our customers to ensure that online gaming is legal in the country which they reside. All bets between Trada Casino and yourself were accepted in good faith and had you won, you would have received your winnings

"

A bizar statement as countries are actively blocked ( e.g US, Belgium ect) and  following there own T&C, my verified account should not be possible.

Quote

 

  1. You agree to use the Services only for lawful purposes and in a way that does not infringe the rights of, restrict or inhibit anyone else's use and enjoyment of the Services. 
  2. The Services are not provided for use by:
    1. The Services are not provided for use by:
      1. Individuals under the legal age limit in the jurisdiction of their residence; 
      2. Individuals under the legal gambling age in the jurisdiction of their residence or the country in which they are accessing the Website; or
      3. Individuals accessing the Website from jurisdictions that regard it to be illegal to do so.

 

Having a verified account as dutch player, willingly allowing play, although in violation of terms and claiming payment to a potential winner, that violate own terms is a scam. This is putting players willingly at risk for own profit: and if they would win the jackpot say violation in terms.

Yes, as a player you are accountable to a certain level, I agree.. But restricting play for other countries ( as should be the case in Holland - government warning-), and claiming Dutch players are allowed by license, even though in direct violation of both law and own T & C, is deceptive and does not player protect.

 

 

 

    1.  
introduce yourselfIntro

Merci all, I already feel more at home then 'other places' where  the bias in play induced by higher powers  is so obvious, it reminded me of the novel ' Animal Farm' -G. Orwell-.

complaintsBetamo.com, spinia.com, scam ??

I could not agree more.. T&C are in place for scamming players, not protection, in 95% of the operations. 

complaintsBetamo.com, spinia.com, scam ??

I mixed in addition arguments surrounding own experience, but against the same Operation. But both raise questions about this operations, that is for sure, and we have common objectives.. 

complaintsBetamo.com, spinia.com, scam ??

Agreed, its bizar wagering can be possible before verification anyway.. You cannot enter a casino if you're under age,  you will be denied access.  These things are obviously in place for only one reason..  

complaintsBetamo.com, spinia.com, scam ??

Well its not only about support team acknowledging the fact that 'terms have not be changed, while having the same update date.  This 'fault', changing terms without updating the date, is at the very core of Casino integrity. Of course, errors can me made, but they made it clear that no update was done. Its also obvious that they changed this after filing my complaint.

The date, is about the most crucial thing on any legal document. And not admitting, if they made an unintentional error, again makes no sense.  Its a criminal offence to back date terms, and another red flag for this operation. Moreover, current T&C version number is wrong, it should be 1.8, not 1.7, again showing gross incompetence and handeling player rights. 

 

introduce yourselfIntro

Thanks a bunch, @Skylined87 if you request, I will provide confirmation of ID, living residence ect. I'm in not a troll, as I was falsely banned for at Casinomeister, I just asked the wrong questions. 

Let me know, I've got nothing to hide, and will share this. 

general casino talkAskGamblers - Player friendly or Casino friendly??

Yup... Strong accusations should always be backed up with strong evidence. I can of course live with moderators holding members to this, and prevent 'fake news/claims'  . But as Xxxxwildingxxxx also noticed: there is obvious bias in play, and valid arguments -supported by evidence- potentially damaging for casino are often censored.

general slot talkWho Wants to be a Millionaire
18 minutes ago, MrGumbOoO said:

If it shows 90% on A and 13% on C then that's 103% already without B and D involved hence contact the legal department for them scamming the hell out of you :) 

I suspect they weren't accurate numbers though

Are the  A B C D  related? if not.

And current  RTP percentage of account , does not indicate improved chances of winning in the short term what so ever.  You might win next 100 rounds so in increases, bit is can also take 1000+ bets after it goes up. After infinite rounds, it should be what they claim. 

Please note that RTP % is for every single bet, and does not relate or change between bets.  Previous outcome, does not affect next bet. ( if they play by the rules)

introduce yourselfIntro

Hi all,

My introduction:

Player from holland, born in the '80, working as MD, received PhD in fundamental and clinical research.

Critical, but always persuaded by valid arguments support by proper evidence.

Strong moral standpoints regarding player protection and fraudulent operations.. 

general slot talkWho Wants to be a Millionaire
On 11/03/2019 at 14:07, Guest said:

So, wondered if @Big Time Gaming official could explain the maths behind these gambles. So many players losing regularly at 90+% from audience/phone lifelines. An explanation would be great.

Please extend your knowledge on this subject: theory of infinite numbers..

RTP is the percentage that is returned after infinite plays.

Practical example (in valid casino, with correct odds)  if playing roulette, betting either red or black, after 99 times consecutive hitting red, would you increase chances by gambling on black? Again if odds are genuine ( no tempering ect)

No.. stil 50/50. It can hit a million times red consecutive, but if played infinite amount of times, it will show equal odds eventually, it might only appear to have different odds, within timeframe observered.  If a player hits the jackpot after first spin, his RTP can be 1000x then wagered, but if you would continue play for years, its likely to drop. 

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general casino talkTrada Casino - Dodgy RTP

well I got banned from CM for asking questions about Trada 2M ago.. 

@SlotspinnerDM me his contact info if possible, thanks. The gloves are off, trust me ? Dublin has become quite criminal so I've heared. 

general casino talkTrada Casino - Dodgy RTP

Well they are misleading players for a long time. Fortunately, individual charges are being filed against this ' Rachael' and 'Conor' ( we've had contact with legislators from Ireland, so potentially even criminal, that's what they deserve) , they can also expect a call from my lawyer for a future civil charge, as I;ve been given the green light by local authorities. 

They. just tried to screw over the wrong guy.. and this will have impact on their future, that is for sure. 

general casino talkAskGamblers - Player friendly or Casino friendly??

Everything on AG (even the name) implies a player driven site, while it is an extended marketing tool. It is real tradecraft.. I've posted a forum thopic on AG regarding multiple fake reviews ( duplicates within same operation brand, more reviews from same user on 1 joint,  single accounts  inactive after that did only 1 thing: post review . Supported with screens.. Got banned from the site.  

Lol.. they are a joke

Screenshot 2019-11-11 at 18.16.19.png

Screenshot 2019-11-11 at 18.16.30.png

Screenshot 2019-11-11 at 18.16.37.png

Screenshot 2019-11-11 at 18.16.44.png

Screenshot 2019-11-11 at 18.16.54.png

Screenshot 2019-11-11 at 18.30.39.png

Screenshot 2019-11-11 at 18.30.45.png

Screenshot 2019-11-11 at 18.31.44.png

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Screenshot 2019-10-06 at 04.59.29.png

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general casino talkAskGamblers - Player friendly or Casino friendly??

@BoracicLint There is not such a thing as being partially independent while claiming unbiased.. I totally agree with Trada casino, they are fraudulent, scamming people, but they maintain 1st place as recommending operations. 

These sites should give a full disclosure regarding financing structure, and potential conflict of interest. They do not do that, while if they are independent, its information that would only emphasise and proof this claim.. Not the case.. zero logic not to provide this.. unless there are terms/services in exchange for funding operations, not to be disclosed by public. 

introduce yourselfFiekie247 - New Here

@copyyzz You are right, I will leave it with this. Its a bit of frustration coming out, caused by interactions with similar named account elsewhere. 

However, I do propagate that new users report any conflict of interest, if there is one. Don't know if this is the case for Fieke247, I'm also not suggestion. Maybe I'm overreacting, but in general, such information can put things in perspective.

But anyway, welcome again, ?

introduce yourselfHenkka1986

Hi, and welcome indeed!

 

general casino talkAskGamblers - Player friendly or Casino friendly??

@J_B_T Catena Media, a company that has strong connection with gambling operations, and in fact runs several, is current owner of Askgamblers.. They even state the 'use of the site for marketing at request by customer'.  To my knowledge its role/ownership, is anything but clearly presented on the site.. nor do they report any conflict of interest.. Real tradecraft, in my opinion, and many gamers will not be aware of this.. 

Nothing wrong in using this as a marketing tool, but it should be made clear for visitors, as they claim 'player driven'.. 

below is copy past of section, that can be fined here: https://www.catenamedia.com/app/uploads/2019/08/Catena_Media_Interim_Report_Q2_2019.pdf

"

WHAT BROUGHT REVENUE
DOWN IN THE SECOND QUARTER

Second quarter revenue turned out below our expectations. There are four primary causes:

  • May and June are traditionally weak months for sports

  • New, rapidly implemented regulations in the UK

  • Regulatory impact in France

  • Large player winnings at casino, which had a negative

    impact on the revenue sharing

  • Still no improvements in Sweden

 "

generalSpinia casino

Best way to check is contacting your local governing body..  And don't play if illegal.

Spinia for instance, also allows players from holland, while this is illegal by dutch law, and in fact in breach of T&C.. As long as casino profit is +, they will even pay out ( again breaching own terms), but if e.g. you win the 1M jackpot: they pull the card ' you breached terms, as gambling from country were forbidden.'.  This of course being ludicrous, as they actively block several countries from even making an account: countries that have strong enforcement and monitoring in place.. They have a clear profits vs. chance of being detected/fined by government model, misleading players, putting them at risk..  Watch out..

introduce yourselfFiekie247 - New Here

Welcome Fiekie247would love you reaction on open topics discussion, however - this time with valid arguments that are supported by evidence-, this is not Askgamblers. Attempts to discredit critical posters (me for instance), without providing any evidence, and more importantly`; doing this without even providing arguments on topic. ( or maybe instead of?) will receive appropriate (unbiased) public ruling. 

If there is any conflict of interest, please report this ( no problem, but others should be aware of this).

 

Again welcome!

general casino talkGeneral warning for players from Holland ( Tradacasino.com, N1 and many more)

No they are based on my own experience, Bwin-Unibet-Pokerstarts already got a 500K fine. 

I agree on you statement, this is typically dutch, turning a blind eye sometimes.  But times are changing, and getting closer to big fines, also for minor operations, you might not want to risk this.  Deny payout vs loosing income after as result, is shifting radically as enforcement picks up.. Several operations have even added NL to restricted already, probably because of this, and ofcourse aiming for valid license applications coming year. Operations that have received complaints/reports from players to the KSA, regardless of  KSA warning or fine, showing violations will be handled similar.

general casino talkGeneral warning for players from Holland ( Tradacasino.com, N1 and many more)

If location based restricting law  is entirely up to the player: no problem, so they should also not restrict US, Belgium, Italy, ect...  Should not make a difference right? 

 

And offering a service within a country, doesnt mean this is legit by proxy in neighbouring entities.

general casino talkGeneral warning for players from Holland ( Tradacasino.com, N1 and many more)

If a player knows the operation is illegal, he can be fined and even face criminal charges. And targeted advertising and IDEAL formulated primary candidates to investigate, willingly offering play to Holland ( should be restricted from) is also enough. Certainly if reported. 

But what I'm talking about is I: every win can be potentialy  confiscated by the casino, as are account funds, as you are in breach of T &C.

II: If they would payout ( violating own terms) players are at risk of getting everything confiscated ( regardless of paying tax).. 

Don't get your hand trapped in one of these operations, trying to milk players without major risk from there side.. Trada and N1 will be banned from official licensing btw coming years, application cool off for 2 years, as they violate right now. 

 

introduce yourselfIntro

No problemo, just checked you site, also started twitter today? 

introduce yourselfIntro

Hi Peter, 

You can make your own topic, for introduction, this is replying to mine. Fine by me, but just letting you know.

1987 date of birth? 

general casino talkGeneral warning for players from Holland ( Tradacasino.com, N1 and many more)

Dear all,

With dutch Gambling authority, finally starting to enforce the illegal offering to gambling to Dutch players ( see here), I would like to warn players from Holland falling in this trap, until legislation is up to date. I filed an official complaint to Trada Casino months ago, requisition proof of dutch licensing, after It became apparent to me that my play could be illegal.

Trada blocked my account, funds gone... Official reply

"

Having reviewed your case we shall not be processing your request for a refund. As per our terms and conditions ,it is the responsibility of our customers to ensure that online gaming is legal in the country which they reside. All bets between Trada Casino and yourself were accepted in good faith and had you won, you would have received your winnings

"

A bizar statement as countries are actively blocked ( e.g US, Belgium ect) and  following there own T&C, my verified account should not be possible.

Quote

 

  1. You agree to use the Services only for lawful purposes and in a way that does not infringe the rights of, restrict or inhibit anyone else's use and enjoyment of the Services. 
  2. The Services are not provided for use by:
    1. The Services are not provided for use by:
      1. Individuals under the legal age limit in the jurisdiction of their residence; 
      2. Individuals under the legal gambling age in the jurisdiction of their residence or the country in which they are accessing the Website; or
      3. Individuals accessing the Website from jurisdictions that regard it to be illegal to do so.

 

Having a verified account as dutch player, willingly allowing play, although in violation of terms and claiming payment to a potential winner, that violate own terms is a scam. This is putting players willingly at risk for own profit: and if they would win the jackpot say violation in terms.

Yes, as a player you are accountable to a certain level, I agree.. But restricting play for other countries ( as should be the case in Holland - government warning-), and claiming Dutch players are allowed by license, even though in direct violation of both law and own T & C, is deceptive and does not player protect.

 

 

 

    1.  
introduce yourselfIntro

Merci all, I already feel more at home then 'other places' where  the bias in play induced by higher powers  is so obvious, it reminded me of the novel ' Animal Farm' -G. Orwell-.

complaintsBetamo.com, spinia.com, scam ??

I could not agree more.. T&C are in place for scamming players, not protection, in 95% of the operations. 

complaintsBetamo.com, spinia.com, scam ??

I mixed in addition arguments surrounding own experience, but against the same Operation. But both raise questions about this operations, that is for sure, and we have common objectives.. 

complaintsBetamo.com, spinia.com, scam ??

Agreed, its bizar wagering can be possible before verification anyway.. You cannot enter a casino if you're under age,  you will be denied access.  These things are obviously in place for only one reason..  

complaintsBetamo.com, spinia.com, scam ??

Well its not only about support team acknowledging the fact that 'terms have not be changed, while having the same update date.  This 'fault', changing terms without updating the date, is at the very core of Casino integrity. Of course, errors can me made, but they made it clear that no update was done. Its also obvious that they changed this after filing my complaint.

The date, is about the most crucial thing on any legal document. And not admitting, if they made an unintentional error, again makes no sense.  Its a criminal offence to back date terms, and another red flag for this operation. Moreover, current T&C version number is wrong, it should be 1.8, not 1.7, again showing gross incompetence and handeling player rights. 

 

introduce yourselfIntro

Thanks a bunch, @Skylined87 if you request, I will provide confirmation of ID, living residence ect. I'm in not a troll, as I was falsely banned for at Casinomeister, I just asked the wrong questions. 

Let me know, I've got nothing to hide, and will share this. 

general casino talkAskGamblers - Player friendly or Casino friendly??

Yup... Strong accusations should always be backed up with strong evidence. I can of course live with moderators holding members to this, and prevent 'fake news/claims'  . But as Xxxxwildingxxxx also noticed: there is obvious bias in play, and valid arguments -supported by evidence- potentially damaging for casino are often censored.

general slot talkWho Wants to be a Millionaire
18 minutes ago, MrGumbOoO said:

If it shows 90% on A and 13% on C then that's 103% already without B and D involved hence contact the legal department for them scamming the hell out of you :) 

I suspect they weren't accurate numbers though

Are the  A B C D  related? if not.

And current  RTP percentage of account , does not indicate improved chances of winning in the short term what so ever.  You might win next 100 rounds so in increases, bit is can also take 1000+ bets after it goes up. After infinite rounds, it should be what they claim. 

Please note that RTP % is for every single bet, and does not relate or change between bets.  Previous outcome, does not affect next bet. ( if they play by the rules)

introduce yourselfIntro

Hi all,

My introduction:

Player from holland, born in the '80, working as MD, received PhD in fundamental and clinical research.

Critical, but always persuaded by valid arguments support by proper evidence.

Strong moral standpoints regarding player protection and fraudulent operations.. 

general slot talkWho Wants to be a Millionaire
On 11/03/2019 at 14:07, Guest said:

So, wondered if @Big Time Gaming official could explain the maths behind these gambles. So many players losing regularly at 90+% from audience/phone lifelines. An explanation would be great.

Please extend your knowledge on this subject: theory of infinite numbers..

RTP is the percentage that is returned after infinite plays.

Practical example (in valid casino, with correct odds)  if playing roulette, betting either red or black, after 99 times consecutive hitting red, would you increase chances by gambling on black? Again if odds are genuine ( no tempering ect)

No.. stil 50/50. It can hit a million times red consecutive, but if played infinite amount of times, it will show equal odds eventually, it might only appear to have different odds, within timeframe observered.  If a player hits the jackpot after first spin, his RTP can be 1000x then wagered, but if you would continue play for years, its likely to drop.