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general casino talkFake Money & UKGC Ban on Twitch Streamers
1 hour ago, SlotBoy said:

The casino streaming world has went from regular players having a bit of fun to completely out of touch with reality.

I agree with part of this statement. All those years ago, high rolling was £2 a spin!

Then it went all wrong with outdoing each other with silly giveaways (it used to be free spins, remember those days), increasing the stakes where if you stream at £1 a spin you don't get any viewers, and now you don't know who is and who isn't playing with real money.

general casino talkFake Money & UKGC Ban on Twitch Streamers

Nothing personal against Alvin, but maybe he can explain this. You are taking offence by the comments made against you (even threatening legal action) yet it was you some time ago that made a video accusing others playing with fake money and having to prove they are not by showing deposits and withdrawals? Wasn't it Rocknrolla too that made such video?

What's good for the goose and all that good stuff......

general casino talkFake Money & UKGC Ban on Twitch Streamers
12 minutes ago, slotsofun said:

Yeah, it looks like they are direct. Although I wouldn't look too much into it. 

Sponsorship deal for the amount of hits his website gets and having the casino banner on his reccomended list probably.

It's basically getting paid for doing a job, no matter what way he gets the paid.

Anyway, I'm not sure why I am even in here, I don't watch chip myself. :D 

Just don't like to see people wrongly accused I guess, better to share all the facts and get it right before shitting on someones livelihood.

But if that is the case, then be open and honest about it when challenged else you possibly going to find yourself in "Rosh" fake money streaming territory.

It has always been the unwritten rule in the Twitch casino section that you are expected to play with your own money, not money given by the casino when there is absolutely no risk attached to it.

Put it this way.... if he gets sponsored his deposit for each video created, then there will be a restriction on the amount he can cash out as it otherwise is not going to be financially sustainable for the casino. That makes those "big" wins plus the fake reactions rather not so big and exciting then if you can't cash all of it out.

general casino talkFake Money & UKGC Ban on Twitch Streamers
17 minutes ago, slotsofun said:

So your website coding expert doesn't realize people can alter the viewable URL to be different from the source URL? Having a URL with numbers/codes related to affiliation looks less attractive than the casino's normal URL. It's better to hide the affiliation code.

 

He is right though. If you look at his website:

Spinson - direct to casino website

Winstonbet - direct to casino website

Awesome Spins - direct to casino website

All the other casinos have either affiliate tags or go via a redirect on his website.

Why else would those three casinos not have an affiliate tag so no commission is made unless he gets a fixed fee for having a banner on his website or a fixed fee for each video made.

general casino talkFake Money & UKGC Ban on Twitch Streamers
On ‎22‎/‎09‎/‎2020 at 10:57, Slotspinner said:

Fake money is defined as non withdrawable. If someone gets sponsored all the deposits, but wins 50000€ and the casino has to pay it out to the player, its real money after all

Totally disagree with that statement. It is playing with casinos money. There is absolutely no risk.

Streamers that don't have such deals are the proper non fake money streamers. Yes, they get better bonus deals, yes they play with affiliate money but it is their money after all. If week upon week of lost deposits then it hits your pockets unlike the sponsored deposit streamers as you describe it.

epic wins 1000x and beyondStreamer does one big bet to win almost 10k & then gets 2000x+

What an idiot

epic wins 1000x and beyondDanger high voltage insane win

Nice one :D

complaintsRoobet -- Shady Practices/Not Displaying RTP
10 minutes ago, Slotspinner said:

i have told them immediately several times, i think they wont include them anymore

Good.....

complaintsRoobet -- Shady Practices/Not Displaying RTP
11 hours ago, Slotspinner said:

Yea on shit like Roobet should be removed ASAP.

Yet one of those streamers is featured on this site's Youtube videos!

https://www.twitch.tv/watchgamestv

general casino talkN1 Casino's stay away, ugly scammers
8 minutes ago, damson95 said:

What are they then? Why do I need to beg to close my account? 

Incompetent, bad customer service or terms to that effect

general casino talkN1 Casino's stay away, ugly scammers

Not saying that they are the best casino out there, but what you're experiencing doesn't make them scammers though, or ugly mf's!

suggestionsRTP on slots

I think we will see more and more of this. I believe it was PlayNGo that kicked this off, followed by Red Tiger and now also Netent.

It makes me think twice about gambling again, what with all of the other BS regarding source of wealth, lack of bonuses etc. and more interference by Governments to come.

suggestionsTraffic light system
8 hours ago, Writeon007 said:

when they may not always read the narrative.

But with competitions it is important that the narrative is read as it will stipulate the terms and conditions. A traffic light system may have the opposite effect of this?

complaintsDreamvegas (Whitehatgaming) removed my winnings after i hit 1750x on Jammin Jars!
On ‎16‎/‎07‎/‎2020 at 17:25, JamminAMY said:

This may not please some people here but Twitch should ban white hat gaming group being shown on their platform until they get their house in order. Streamers can deposit with skrill/neteller and get a bonus and win massively on Jammin Jars or other slots all day long but the moment a regular person does it its not allowed. Its a bit misleading, lets see what twitch thinks about that. 

Twitch doesn't care about channels with viewbots, fake money streaming etc. so I wouldn't count on them caring let alone do something about somebody playing on a casino with a bonus depositing via Skrill / Neteller when they shouldn't have had that bonus according to the T's and Cs.

epic wins 1000x and beyondDead or Alive 2 111.111X 0,09€ Bet

Nice one - big congrats

complaintsDreamvegas (Whitehatgaming) removed my winnings after i hit 1750x on Jammin Jars!
2 hours ago, JamminAMY said:

The day someone from White Hat Gaming group comes here and declares they will refund the deposits of all the other people who this has happened to in the last 2 years+ who actually lost with the bonus using Neteller/Skrill will be the day they look like a legitimate casino and prove this was an accident and not deliberate by them.

The only way to test this is for someone that did get a bonus whilst depositing via Skrill / Neteller but didn't manage to complete the wagering, to go to the casino and claim their deposit back because they should never have had the bonus in the first place. If that request gets refused, you got a point as that particular rule should apply to all outcomes.

complaintsDreamvegas (Whitehatgaming) removed my winnings after i hit 1750x on Jammin Jars!
2 minutes ago, JamminAMY said:

Do you think the Casino should state If i deposit with Neteller what the consequences would be? As like they did when referring to breaching max bet rules or other breaches where it clearly says what would happen.. @Slotplayer 

I'm not eligible but they gave it, that's their responsibility. I never hacked them or tricked them into a bonus! I'm not sure why so many people here are negative towards my dispute with the Casino and automatically think it would lose. It is possible to resolve things, the casino is not always right or do they always win. Over here in Ireland another girl sued Bet365 for 1 Million Euros for a dispute over the T&Cs and eventually settled with a Win and that's against the biggest casino/betting operator in the world. 

What you or I think is irrelevant. You're talking taking it to Court who will decide.

What happened in another Court case is irrelevant too. Each case is unique. Not all Courts set precedents.

Good luck with your quest getting your winnings.

complaintsDreamvegas (Whitehatgaming) removed my winnings after i hit 1750x on Jammin Jars!

From you quoted T'S and C's that lists items that result in confiscating of winnings, it is made clear that this list is not an exhaustive list. It clearly says "Such breaches include, but are not limited to"

Unless the terms are unreasonable, then you may not have a case. The bonus terms are pretty straight forward and clear.... if you deposit with Neteller or Skrill you are not legible for a bonus.

I would not waste money on a solicitor or court case as you will be set to lose.

complaintsCasumo fudging up happy customer

Good luck to the OP. Casumo is an excellent casino when it comes to slot selection, smoothness of the slots etc. but when you get to the dreaded SOW point they are a nightmare to deal with. Some proper horror stories can be read on the internet.

big winsEpic run to life changing cash out
5 minutes ago, Will Martin said:

Winning bro. It can be done and this is testament. I had a similar in feb. Put in 300 of own cash and got up to 500 k. Dreams can be made bro. Enjoy. 

Yeah Ok..... £300 into £500,000

Find that hard to believe to be honest......

general casino talkChannel Two Casino Streamers???

Locking this one...... everybody has said their piece now

generalI need support

I have edited the original post to remove the email address, because:

(1) it avoids spam emails being received

(2) financial support is rarely the answer to any potential problem gambling

If the OP wants to discuss any problem gambling issues, then please feel free to share these here, where appropriate advice can be given.

complaints[RESOLVED] Voodoodreams kyc

I had some real probs with them verifying.

@Voodoodreams helped me and so did @Skylined87

big winsAnother £1000 bonus hunt

This is yesterday's result..... more of these are on my Youtube channel:

 

big winsAztec Gold Megaways big win

Left some money to play with after withdrawing:

 

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general casino talkFake Money & UKGC Ban on Twitch Streamers
1 hour ago, SlotBoy said:

The casino streaming world has went from regular players having a bit of fun to completely out of touch with reality.

I agree with part of this statement. All those years ago, high rolling was £2 a spin!

Then it went all wrong with outdoing each other with silly giveaways (it used to be free spins, remember those days), increasing the stakes where if you stream at £1 a spin you don't get any viewers, and now you don't know who is and who isn't playing with real money.

general casino talkFake Money & UKGC Ban on Twitch Streamers

Nothing personal against Alvin, but maybe he can explain this. You are taking offence by the comments made against you (even threatening legal action) yet it was you some time ago that made a video accusing others playing with fake money and having to prove they are not by showing deposits and withdrawals? Wasn't it Rocknrolla too that made such video?

What's good for the goose and all that good stuff......

general casino talkFake Money & UKGC Ban on Twitch Streamers
12 minutes ago, slotsofun said:

Yeah, it looks like they are direct. Although I wouldn't look too much into it. 

Sponsorship deal for the amount of hits his website gets and having the casino banner on his reccomended list probably.

It's basically getting paid for doing a job, no matter what way he gets the paid.

Anyway, I'm not sure why I am even in here, I don't watch chip myself. :D 

Just don't like to see people wrongly accused I guess, better to share all the facts and get it right before shitting on someones livelihood.

But if that is the case, then be open and honest about it when challenged else you possibly going to find yourself in "Rosh" fake money streaming territory.

It has always been the unwritten rule in the Twitch casino section that you are expected to play with your own money, not money given by the casino when there is absolutely no risk attached to it.

Put it this way.... if he gets sponsored his deposit for each video created, then there will be a restriction on the amount he can cash out as it otherwise is not going to be financially sustainable for the casino. That makes those "big" wins plus the fake reactions rather not so big and exciting then if you can't cash all of it out.

general casino talkFake Money & UKGC Ban on Twitch Streamers
17 minutes ago, slotsofun said:

So your website coding expert doesn't realize people can alter the viewable URL to be different from the source URL? Having a URL with numbers/codes related to affiliation looks less attractive than the casino's normal URL. It's better to hide the affiliation code.

 

He is right though. If you look at his website:

Spinson - direct to casino website

Winstonbet - direct to casino website

Awesome Spins - direct to casino website

All the other casinos have either affiliate tags or go via a redirect on his website.

Why else would those three casinos not have an affiliate tag so no commission is made unless he gets a fixed fee for having a banner on his website or a fixed fee for each video made.

general casino talkFake Money & UKGC Ban on Twitch Streamers
On ‎22‎/‎09‎/‎2020 at 10:57, Slotspinner said:

Fake money is defined as non withdrawable. If someone gets sponsored all the deposits, but wins 50000€ and the casino has to pay it out to the player, its real money after all

Totally disagree with that statement. It is playing with casinos money. There is absolutely no risk.

Streamers that don't have such deals are the proper non fake money streamers. Yes, they get better bonus deals, yes they play with affiliate money but it is their money after all. If week upon week of lost deposits then it hits your pockets unlike the sponsored deposit streamers as you describe it.

epic wins 1000x and beyondStreamer does one big bet to win almost 10k & then gets 2000x+

What an idiot

epic wins 1000x and beyondDanger high voltage insane win

Nice one :D

complaintsRoobet -- Shady Practices/Not Displaying RTP
10 minutes ago, Slotspinner said:

i have told them immediately several times, i think they wont include them anymore

Good.....

complaintsRoobet -- Shady Practices/Not Displaying RTP
11 hours ago, Slotspinner said:

Yea on shit like Roobet should be removed ASAP.

Yet one of those streamers is featured on this site's Youtube videos!

https://www.twitch.tv/watchgamestv

general casino talkN1 Casino's stay away, ugly scammers
8 minutes ago, damson95 said:

What are they then? Why do I need to beg to close my account? 

Incompetent, bad customer service or terms to that effect

general casino talkN1 Casino's stay away, ugly scammers

Not saying that they are the best casino out there, but what you're experiencing doesn't make them scammers though, or ugly mf's!

suggestionsRTP on slots

I think we will see more and more of this. I believe it was PlayNGo that kicked this off, followed by Red Tiger and now also Netent.

It makes me think twice about gambling again, what with all of the other BS regarding source of wealth, lack of bonuses etc. and more interference by Governments to come.

suggestionsTraffic light system
8 hours ago, Writeon007 said:

when they may not always read the narrative.

But with competitions it is important that the narrative is read as it will stipulate the terms and conditions. A traffic light system may have the opposite effect of this?

complaintsDreamvegas (Whitehatgaming) removed my winnings after i hit 1750x on Jammin Jars!
On ‎16‎/‎07‎/‎2020 at 17:25, JamminAMY said:

This may not please some people here but Twitch should ban white hat gaming group being shown on their platform until they get their house in order. Streamers can deposit with skrill/neteller and get a bonus and win massively on Jammin Jars or other slots all day long but the moment a regular person does it its not allowed. Its a bit misleading, lets see what twitch thinks about that. 

Twitch doesn't care about channels with viewbots, fake money streaming etc. so I wouldn't count on them caring let alone do something about somebody playing on a casino with a bonus depositing via Skrill / Neteller when they shouldn't have had that bonus according to the T's and Cs.

epic wins 1000x and beyondDead or Alive 2 111.111X 0,09€ Bet

Nice one - big congrats

complaintsDreamvegas (Whitehatgaming) removed my winnings after i hit 1750x on Jammin Jars!
2 hours ago, JamminAMY said:

The day someone from White Hat Gaming group comes here and declares they will refund the deposits of all the other people who this has happened to in the last 2 years+ who actually lost with the bonus using Neteller/Skrill will be the day they look like a legitimate casino and prove this was an accident and not deliberate by them.

The only way to test this is for someone that did get a bonus whilst depositing via Skrill / Neteller but didn't manage to complete the wagering, to go to the casino and claim their deposit back because they should never have had the bonus in the first place. If that request gets refused, you got a point as that particular rule should apply to all outcomes.

complaintsDreamvegas (Whitehatgaming) removed my winnings after i hit 1750x on Jammin Jars!
2 minutes ago, JamminAMY said:

Do you think the Casino should state If i deposit with Neteller what the consequences would be? As like they did when referring to breaching max bet rules or other breaches where it clearly says what would happen.. @Slotplayer 

I'm not eligible but they gave it, that's their responsibility. I never hacked them or tricked them into a bonus! I'm not sure why so many people here are negative towards my dispute with the Casino and automatically think it would lose. It is possible to resolve things, the casino is not always right or do they always win. Over here in Ireland another girl sued Bet365 for 1 Million Euros for a dispute over the T&Cs and eventually settled with a Win and that's against the biggest casino/betting operator in the world. 

What you or I think is irrelevant. You're talking taking it to Court who will decide.

What happened in another Court case is irrelevant too. Each case is unique. Not all Courts set precedents.

Good luck with your quest getting your winnings.

complaintsDreamvegas (Whitehatgaming) removed my winnings after i hit 1750x on Jammin Jars!

From you quoted T'S and C's that lists items that result in confiscating of winnings, it is made clear that this list is not an exhaustive list. It clearly says "Such breaches include, but are not limited to"

Unless the terms are unreasonable, then you may not have a case. The bonus terms are pretty straight forward and clear.... if you deposit with Neteller or Skrill you are not legible for a bonus.

I would not waste money on a solicitor or court case as you will be set to lose.

complaintsCasumo fudging up happy customer

Good luck to the OP. Casumo is an excellent casino when it comes to slot selection, smoothness of the slots etc. but when you get to the dreaded SOW point they are a nightmare to deal with. Some proper horror stories can be read on the internet.

big winsEpic run to life changing cash out
5 minutes ago, Will Martin said:

Winning bro. It can be done and this is testament. I had a similar in feb. Put in 300 of own cash and got up to 500 k. Dreams can be made bro. Enjoy. 

Yeah Ok..... £300 into £500,000

Find that hard to believe to be honest......

general casino talkChannel Two Casino Streamers???

Locking this one...... everybody has said their piece now

generalI need support

I have edited the original post to remove the email address, because:

(1) it avoids spam emails being received

(2) financial support is rarely the answer to any potential problem gambling

If the OP wants to discuss any problem gambling issues, then please feel free to share these here, where appropriate advice can be given.

complaints[RESOLVED] Voodoodreams kyc

I had some real probs with them verifying.

@Voodoodreams helped me and so did @Skylined87

big winsAnother £1000 bonus hunt

This is yesterday's result..... more of these are on my Youtube channel:

 

big winsAztec Gold Megaways big win

Left some money to play with after withdrawing: