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generalBetsson/Rizk

So I've got a question regarding one group taking over another. I think @Nick, @LetsGiveItASpin or @Skylined87 are best suited to answer this or check up on it and find the answer.

So about 5 years ago I self excluded from Betsafe, a site operating under the Betsson umbrella. When I went through with the self exclusion I was told I would be unable to play at any BML group casino.

Earlier this year Betsson took over Rizk, a casino I still play frequently at. 

Now I'm wondering if in a scenario like this, should self exclusions from the past carry on to new casinos opened under the Betsson umbrella? Should the exclusion carry on and stop me from playing at Rizk too? 

For information, nothing has happened. I'm still playing at Rizk. I just don't know if I really should be able to, according to licensing agreements and company policies.

What do you think?

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6 hours ago, Dave Morrison said:

Send me the sites there I can get "big ding dong"! 

Kim said grinder or something like that

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sports bettingLetsGiveItASpin Sampiyonship - Fantasy Premier Leauge

LATEST NEWS:

Gareth Bale is officially a Spurs player. Turns our Spurs have given up football and moved over to golf. Rumour has it they're gonna get rid of Mourinho and sign Tiger Woods as their new manager. 

Manchester United striker Anthony Martial says he'll score 60 goals in the Premier League this season and show Harry Kane who's boss.

 

big winsBLANCO I LOVE YOU
4 minutes ago, Blanco said:

Get the flying fudge in there mate ❤️❤️ 
Gz mate!! 

Spurs got lucky today, 2 red cards in 1 minute and a penalty for spurs, that's next level luck mate ?

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23 minutes ago, NeWbZs said:

Promotional Period: 17/09/2020 

The first 5 free spins will be on Reactoonz right after the deposit

 

It doenst say that :)

Oh.. i read the example ?

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READ THE PROMOTION! IT STARTS TOMORROW! 

casino streamersIf someone commented on Blanco's night out

If Troy Aikman commentated @Blanco's actions after a night out:

?

sports bettingLetsGiveItASpin Sampiyonship - Fantasy Premier Leauge

LATEST NEWS:

ManchesterGoldbridge is set for game week 2, and we're expecting to have the manager of the week for this round! 

Martinsen announced he placed a bet on Jose Mourinho to be the first manager to get the sack this season. 

We pulled out the wildcard to shuffle the team, and we're excited for the coming weeks.

In other news, Dele Alli is rumoured to be involved in a suggested swap deal with Real Madrid for Gareth Bale! This means there's a chance we'll see the most shocking injury prone transfer in history!

Bale just signed a deal with US president Donald Trump to look after his UK golf business, so we're expecting the move to be announced shortly.

Many punters think this might give Spuds a boost in shirt sales, as most of their 14 supporters can't fit into Dele Alli's blouse, while Bale is atleast a male player. 

Jan Verthongen says he might take a UK vacation once the Bale deal is done, so he can give Emma Rhys-Jones a warm welcome.

 

epic wins 1000x and beyondStreamer does one big bet to win almost 10k & then gets 2000x+

One could think he has tourettes tbh

casino streamersA Challenge For Streamers
2 minutes ago, Orzabot said:

i am looking forward to watch the octo stream on my phone

So watch it on a computer or stream it on a tv?

casino streamersA Challenge For Streamers

@Blanco @Slotspinner @LetsGiveItASpin @Nick 

Here's a challenge/suggestion for a stream: 

Octo DoA2 grind on October 8th at 8 o'clock! 

Think about it. It's meant to be!

Also that'll likely draw viewers like crazy lol

epic wins 1000x and beyondStreamer does one big bet to win almost 10k & then gets 2000x+

He goy lucky on that big spin for sure. Happens.

Also he seems to be a cunt

sports bettingLetsGiveItASpin Sampiyonship - Fantasy Premier Leauge
3 hours ago, LetsGiveItASpin said:

I gave you boys a head start to make it more fair but on Saturday daddy is stepping on the field and there will be no more playing around :D 

Get the fudge in buddy ?

Wonder if Lampard is running his best team this weekend against Liverpool. Against Brighton he left Ziyech, Pulisic, Chillwell and Thiago out of the squad. Would be nice to see his best starting 11.

 

sports bettingLetsGiveItASpin Sampiyonship - Fantasy Premier Leauge
2 hours ago, Blanco said:

@Asle Martinsen I can confirm the rumor!

But there is always a new game upcomming! COYS

Away to Southampton isn't gonna be an easy game though ?

To be honest, I think Jose will be the first manager to get sacked this season ?

general slot talkIsn't it enough with bonus buys slots?

Let's put it this way: if they removed bonus buys right now, I wouldn't moss them. I know most streamers agree. 

Bonus buys was an interesting concept originally, but when you really think about it, you're better off putting your money on roulette at that point.

Here's my argument: you pay 100x stake for a bonus. Bonus pays 500x, which is fairly rare and a decent bonus. But when you think about it, you just won 5 times your bet. 

Not to mention these new bpnus buy games have options to pay what, 700x stake to buy a bonus? This shouldn't be legal. It's gone way too far. 

I prefer spinning for the bonuses, cus there's a chance I get a 5 euro bonus within 20 spins, rather than buying a 1 euro stake bonus for 100-700 euros. 

Bonus buys should be removed for everyone. It was an intriguing concept, but it's just not fun anymore

complaints[RESOLVED] LeoVegas Problems please help me :-(
On 12/09/2020 at 12:38, jane86 said:

everything is done, i got payed 5 minutes ago

Nice ? glad you got it sorted ?

sports bettingLetsGiveItASpin Sampiyonship - Fantasy Premier Leauge

BREAKING NEWS! 

Dele Alli was subbed off at half time for crying over her breakup. Jose Mourinho figured he might as well turn Spurs into Norwich in the second half and sub off London's favourite male lesbian.

Rumour has it @Blanco cried a little bit when he got the news. 

Everton looked like a great and exciting team with James Rodriguez. Now they just need to get rid of the fake b-tech brazilian Jamie Vardy, also known as Richarlison.

In other news, Calvert-Lewin of ManchesterGoldbridge netted the points against a terrible Spurs side! 

casino streamersHas someone had problem with Caxino ?

Are you sure you didn't deposit instead of withdraw?

@LetsGiveItASpin @Slotspinner @Skylined87 one of you have a look at this? Sounds weird, I can't figure this out

epic wins 1000x and beyondMoney Train 2 Max Win 50.000X

Holy motherdosser get the actual fudge in there! Now that's what you wanna hit @Slotspinner

sports bettingLetsGiveItASpin Sampiyonship - Fantasy Premier Leauge

Latest News from ManchesterGoldbridge:

All players are in top shape before the first round and will be starting. 

The fan favourites are set to take the lead from day 1, and will likely win by a landslide come May 23rd.

Most Punters seem to agree that ManchesterGoldbridge are clear favourites to win the league.

When asked who the best manager in the fantasy league is, Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Klopp replied in tandem "It's definitely Asle 'Big PP' Martinsen", before they followed with "We'd both step down to assistant managers for the sake of our clubs if Martinsen offered to take over".

Tune back in for the summary of the first round!

general casino talkMonopoly lowered the RTP
On 09/09/2020 at 00:49, Soeop said:

I've lost shit tons of money on gambling and I will regret it for the rest of my short life. That being said let me state this:

1) in 2020 there's enough technology to rig everything, literally.

2) Evolution gaming have their license on the line meaning their whole multi million dollars business.

3) "Profitability Operating profit amounted to EUR 74,2 million (36,6), corresponding to an increase of 103 percent. The operating margin was 57,8 percent (42,7). The EBITDA margin was 63,2 percent (49,8)." You can find this yourself on their website, so yeah they can easily afford live games 24/7/365 and paying huge wins.

4) Roulette balls now days are made of ivory, resin, teflon and even ceramic and yes you can easily tell that one ball can bounce way more than another. Also depends on the size of it (18mm or 21mm) and depends on the size of the wheel. Plus, as I'm expecting from "expert" gambler, nobody here talked about the deceleration factor which is actually a big deal for the landbase casino meaning that YES, online casino and offline casino HAVE DIFFERENT OUTCOME IN TERMS OF BOUNCY/CHANGE OF DIRECTIONS BALLS.

That being said I'm not taking any part, as matter of fact I've stop highrolling on ANY evolution game after this 2 videos:

Do I think evolution gaming is rigged? Hell no

Do I think evolution gaming control bonuses outcome such as 4 rolls, pachinko, crazy time etc? Hell yes. Can I prove it? Hell no.

Please refrain from replying without any proof/solid argument.

P.S. Don't gamble kids

They can't nail the outcome, but they can 'control' the area on the wheel where it will stop. There's a reason why the top slot on CT spins after the wheel is in motion and the empliyee no longer touches the wheel. I believe this to be the case anyway, but the games are always gonna make the casino win in the long run, and that's what's important to remember. They don't need to rig anything, and if they do, it will get leaked, and we'd have some insider tell us about it. 

When it comes to that Pachinko video, the ball clearly lands where there was a 7x, and the payout said 10x, so there's obviously a computer problem or human error, and not predetermined rigged stuff there.

general casino talkMonopoly lowered the RTP
On 08/09/2020 at 13:29, Slotspinner said:

Yea, i believed the same but i sent it to the guys in vegas who watched roulette spins for over 30 years, they said theyve seen it many times and even worse things happen with the ball
That netent ball was ultra light btw, its jumping like a crazy frog

Also this is what i meant saying more experience. I trust their opinion more than my own

Exactly! Sure, there has been rigged games in the past, but those providers have been revealed.

Imagine how many people have worked at Evolution, who no longer work in the industry, who we can confirm has worked there from seeing them on camera. What are the chances the tens if not hundreds of ex employees don't rat them out if they are cheating? There are too many people involved for this to be some great conspiracy that doesn't get leaked with proof.

One of the biggest flaws of humanity is that so many won't take responsibility for their own actions unless their actions have positive outcomes. It's so easy to push the responsibility over to others and claim the system is rigged against you, but as long as you do this you'll never learn from your own mistakes, and you'll remain at the low level you're at, instead of progressing and becoming a better you.

 

general casino talkThe real advantage casino streamers have!
On 29/06/2020 at 12:32, Aviad said:

So I know there is a lot of talk out there about casino streamers and how they win all the time and how some don't even use their own money.

First of all it's ridiculous to think streamers have any advantage  with slots. Slots are not rigged for streamers in anyway. 

Second I am not going to talk about streamers who play with fake money and we all know there are quite a few of them out there.

But I do think there is one very important advantage which streamers do have and do use which the average player barely has which is the DEPOSIT MATCH BONUS. This is grossly understated and gives streamers a huge advantage over the normal player.  

I know some streamers don't ever take bonuses (like the Bandit) but the vast majority of streamers including the casino grounds streamers have an infinite amount of 100% deposit match bonuses which can go up to the thousands if they wish. Even though they would normally have the same wagering requirements as normal players a lot of the time they are allowed do over the usual max bet (normally 2£-5£ ) sometimes with no max bet what so ever. 

So when the normal player has a bank roll which he needs to normally fund 100% , and if loses it he will lose all his money, streamers need to only fund 50% of their usual bank roll so their lost is half of what the normal player loses.

The amount of time streamers ended up taking huge wins when they manage to finish the wagering requirements gives them a real advantage over everyone. 

So even though legit streamers keep saying they play with their own money and not fake, which is very true and I dont dispute that, and they do lose sometimes a lot of money streaming, they manage to come on top of all of us by far, all thanks to the huge advantage they have with deposit bonuses. 

If any streamer disputes this I would be happy to hear their side.

This is fair enough and true. 

What people need to keep in mind is that for the hours of entertainment the streamers put out week after week, it's necessary for them to habe these bonuses. Most of the time these bonuses is the difference between them being able to provide the entertainment and run their business with a profit, and the business model not working. 

Streamers play more than most of us. If anyone tries to keep playing as much as streamers on a hobby basis, they've likely got a problem. Streamers like Letsgiveitaspin, slotspinner and nickslots are always pointing these things out. They're encouraging viewers to be as responsible as possible at all times, evem though they make more the more you gamble through their links. They offer help whenever they can, and they're giving back to the community in so many ways. Not to mention the fact they wanna meet most of us when possible. 

I think the streamers I mentioned deserve all the success possible, and people need to stop being jealous of them, and realise that expecting to play as much as streamers do on their stakes is impossible in the long run. Keep in mind they played at way lower stakes in the beginning too, and built a following doing it.

 

sports bettingLetsGiveItASpin Sampiyonship - Fantasy Premier Leauge

NEWS JUST IN!

Harry Kane is suffering a hairloss injury, and will likely not play the first round, says Jose Mourinho.

Dele Alli's boyfriend broke up with her, according to anonymous sources. Alli is the highest paid "male" lesbian in the world, which has sparked outrage from female lesbians.

Inter's Christian Eriksen has revealed that he has a big one and he used it on all the spurs wags during his last season in the London club, and says that's why he didn't play much. He was too tired. Anonymous wag confirms.

More news to come in thr following days!

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So I've got a question regarding one group taking over another. I think @Nick, @LetsGiveItASpin or @Skylined87 are best suited to answer this or check up on it and find the answer.

So about 5 years ago I self excluded from Betsafe, a site operating under the Betsson umbrella. When I went through with the self exclusion I was told I would be unable to play at any BML group casino.

Earlier this year Betsson took over Rizk, a casino I still play frequently at. 

Now I'm wondering if in a scenario like this, should self exclusions from the past carry on to new casinos opened under the Betsson umbrella? Should the exclusion carry on and stop me from playing at Rizk too? 

For information, nothing has happened. I'm still playing at Rizk. I just don't know if I really should be able to, according to licensing agreements and company policies.

What do you think?

casino streamersHappy Birthday Slotspinner!
6 hours ago, Dave Morrison said:

Send me the sites there I can get "big ding dong"! 

Kim said grinder or something like that

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32323x

sports bettingLetsGiveItASpin Sampiyonship - Fantasy Premier Leauge

LATEST NEWS:

Gareth Bale is officially a Spurs player. Turns our Spurs have given up football and moved over to golf. Rumour has it they're gonna get rid of Mourinho and sign Tiger Woods as their new manager. 

Manchester United striker Anthony Martial says he'll score 60 goals in the Premier League this season and show Harry Kane who's boss.

 

big winsBLANCO I LOVE YOU
4 minutes ago, Blanco said:

Get the flying fudge in there mate ❤️❤️ 
Gz mate!! 

Spurs got lucky today, 2 red cards in 1 minute and a penalty for spurs, that's next level luck mate ?

casinogrounds promotions[EXCLUSIVE] Ultra Casino €20,000 Giveaway
23 minutes ago, NeWbZs said:

Promotional Period: 17/09/2020 

The first 5 free spins will be on Reactoonz right after the deposit

 

It doenst say that :)

Oh.. i read the example ?

casinogrounds promotions[EXCLUSIVE] Ultra Casino €20,000 Giveaway

READ THE PROMOTION! IT STARTS TOMORROW! 

casino streamersIf someone commented on Blanco's night out

If Troy Aikman commentated @Blanco's actions after a night out:

?

sports bettingLetsGiveItASpin Sampiyonship - Fantasy Premier Leauge

LATEST NEWS:

ManchesterGoldbridge is set for game week 2, and we're expecting to have the manager of the week for this round! 

Martinsen announced he placed a bet on Jose Mourinho to be the first manager to get the sack this season. 

We pulled out the wildcard to shuffle the team, and we're excited for the coming weeks.

In other news, Dele Alli is rumoured to be involved in a suggested swap deal with Real Madrid for Gareth Bale! This means there's a chance we'll see the most shocking injury prone transfer in history!

Bale just signed a deal with US president Donald Trump to look after his UK golf business, so we're expecting the move to be announced shortly.

Many punters think this might give Spuds a boost in shirt sales, as most of their 14 supporters can't fit into Dele Alli's blouse, while Bale is atleast a male player. 

Jan Verthongen says he might take a UK vacation once the Bale deal is done, so he can give Emma Rhys-Jones a warm welcome.

 

epic wins 1000x and beyondStreamer does one big bet to win almost 10k & then gets 2000x+

One could think he has tourettes tbh

casino streamersA Challenge For Streamers
2 minutes ago, Orzabot said:

i am looking forward to watch the octo stream on my phone

So watch it on a computer or stream it on a tv?

casino streamersA Challenge For Streamers

@Blanco @Slotspinner @LetsGiveItASpin @Nick 

Here's a challenge/suggestion for a stream: 

Octo DoA2 grind on October 8th at 8 o'clock! 

Think about it. It's meant to be!

Also that'll likely draw viewers like crazy lol

epic wins 1000x and beyondStreamer does one big bet to win almost 10k & then gets 2000x+

He goy lucky on that big spin for sure. Happens.

Also he seems to be a cunt

sports bettingLetsGiveItASpin Sampiyonship - Fantasy Premier Leauge
3 hours ago, LetsGiveItASpin said:

I gave you boys a head start to make it more fair but on Saturday daddy is stepping on the field and there will be no more playing around :D 

Get the fudge in buddy ?

Wonder if Lampard is running his best team this weekend against Liverpool. Against Brighton he left Ziyech, Pulisic, Chillwell and Thiago out of the squad. Would be nice to see his best starting 11.

 

sports bettingLetsGiveItASpin Sampiyonship - Fantasy Premier Leauge
2 hours ago, Blanco said:

@Asle Martinsen I can confirm the rumor!

But there is always a new game upcomming! COYS

Away to Southampton isn't gonna be an easy game though ?

To be honest, I think Jose will be the first manager to get sacked this season ?

general slot talkIsn't it enough with bonus buys slots?

Let's put it this way: if they removed bonus buys right now, I wouldn't moss them. I know most streamers agree. 

Bonus buys was an interesting concept originally, but when you really think about it, you're better off putting your money on roulette at that point.

Here's my argument: you pay 100x stake for a bonus. Bonus pays 500x, which is fairly rare and a decent bonus. But when you think about it, you just won 5 times your bet. 

Not to mention these new bpnus buy games have options to pay what, 700x stake to buy a bonus? This shouldn't be legal. It's gone way too far. 

I prefer spinning for the bonuses, cus there's a chance I get a 5 euro bonus within 20 spins, rather than buying a 1 euro stake bonus for 100-700 euros. 

Bonus buys should be removed for everyone. It was an intriguing concept, but it's just not fun anymore

complaints[RESOLVED] LeoVegas Problems please help me :-(
On 12/09/2020 at 12:38, jane86 said:

everything is done, i got payed 5 minutes ago

Nice ? glad you got it sorted ?

sports bettingLetsGiveItASpin Sampiyonship - Fantasy Premier Leauge

BREAKING NEWS! 

Dele Alli was subbed off at half time for crying over her breakup. Jose Mourinho figured he might as well turn Spurs into Norwich in the second half and sub off London's favourite male lesbian.

Rumour has it @Blanco cried a little bit when he got the news. 

Everton looked like a great and exciting team with James Rodriguez. Now they just need to get rid of the fake b-tech brazilian Jamie Vardy, also known as Richarlison.

In other news, Calvert-Lewin of ManchesterGoldbridge netted the points against a terrible Spurs side! 

casino streamersHas someone had problem with Caxino ?

Are you sure you didn't deposit instead of withdraw?

@LetsGiveItASpin @Slotspinner @Skylined87 one of you have a look at this? Sounds weird, I can't figure this out

epic wins 1000x and beyondMoney Train 2 Max Win 50.000X

Holy motherdosser get the actual fudge in there! Now that's what you wanna hit @Slotspinner

sports bettingLetsGiveItASpin Sampiyonship - Fantasy Premier Leauge

Latest News from ManchesterGoldbridge:

All players are in top shape before the first round and will be starting. 

The fan favourites are set to take the lead from day 1, and will likely win by a landslide come May 23rd.

Most Punters seem to agree that ManchesterGoldbridge are clear favourites to win the league.

When asked who the best manager in the fantasy league is, Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Klopp replied in tandem "It's definitely Asle 'Big PP' Martinsen", before they followed with "We'd both step down to assistant managers for the sake of our clubs if Martinsen offered to take over".

Tune back in for the summary of the first round!

general casino talkMonopoly lowered the RTP
On 09/09/2020 at 00:49, Soeop said:

I've lost shit tons of money on gambling and I will regret it for the rest of my short life. That being said let me state this:

1) in 2020 there's enough technology to rig everything, literally.

2) Evolution gaming have their license on the line meaning their whole multi million dollars business.

3) "Profitability Operating profit amounted to EUR 74,2 million (36,6), corresponding to an increase of 103 percent. The operating margin was 57,8 percent (42,7). The EBITDA margin was 63,2 percent (49,8)." You can find this yourself on their website, so yeah they can easily afford live games 24/7/365 and paying huge wins.

4) Roulette balls now days are made of ivory, resin, teflon and even ceramic and yes you can easily tell that one ball can bounce way more than another. Also depends on the size of it (18mm or 21mm) and depends on the size of the wheel. Plus, as I'm expecting from "expert" gambler, nobody here talked about the deceleration factor which is actually a big deal for the landbase casino meaning that YES, online casino and offline casino HAVE DIFFERENT OUTCOME IN TERMS OF BOUNCY/CHANGE OF DIRECTIONS BALLS.

That being said I'm not taking any part, as matter of fact I've stop highrolling on ANY evolution game after this 2 videos:

Do I think evolution gaming is rigged? Hell no

Do I think evolution gaming control bonuses outcome such as 4 rolls, pachinko, crazy time etc? Hell yes. Can I prove it? Hell no.

Please refrain from replying without any proof/solid argument.

P.S. Don't gamble kids

They can't nail the outcome, but they can 'control' the area on the wheel where it will stop. There's a reason why the top slot on CT spins after the wheel is in motion and the empliyee no longer touches the wheel. I believe this to be the case anyway, but the games are always gonna make the casino win in the long run, and that's what's important to remember. They don't need to rig anything, and if they do, it will get leaked, and we'd have some insider tell us about it. 

When it comes to that Pachinko video, the ball clearly lands where there was a 7x, and the payout said 10x, so there's obviously a computer problem or human error, and not predetermined rigged stuff there.

general casino talkMonopoly lowered the RTP
On 08/09/2020 at 13:29, Slotspinner said:

Yea, i believed the same but i sent it to the guys in vegas who watched roulette spins for over 30 years, they said theyve seen it many times and even worse things happen with the ball
That netent ball was ultra light btw, its jumping like a crazy frog

Also this is what i meant saying more experience. I trust their opinion more than my own

Exactly! Sure, there has been rigged games in the past, but those providers have been revealed.

Imagine how many people have worked at Evolution, who no longer work in the industry, who we can confirm has worked there from seeing them on camera. What are the chances the tens if not hundreds of ex employees don't rat them out if they are cheating? There are too many people involved for this to be some great conspiracy that doesn't get leaked with proof.

One of the biggest flaws of humanity is that so many won't take responsibility for their own actions unless their actions have positive outcomes. It's so easy to push the responsibility over to others and claim the system is rigged against you, but as long as you do this you'll never learn from your own mistakes, and you'll remain at the low level you're at, instead of progressing and becoming a better you.

 

general casino talkThe real advantage casino streamers have!
On 29/06/2020 at 12:32, Aviad said:

So I know there is a lot of talk out there about casino streamers and how they win all the time and how some don't even use their own money.

First of all it's ridiculous to think streamers have any advantage  with slots. Slots are not rigged for streamers in anyway. 

Second I am not going to talk about streamers who play with fake money and we all know there are quite a few of them out there.

But I do think there is one very important advantage which streamers do have and do use which the average player barely has which is the DEPOSIT MATCH BONUS. This is grossly understated and gives streamers a huge advantage over the normal player.  

I know some streamers don't ever take bonuses (like the Bandit) but the vast majority of streamers including the casino grounds streamers have an infinite amount of 100% deposit match bonuses which can go up to the thousands if they wish. Even though they would normally have the same wagering requirements as normal players a lot of the time they are allowed do over the usual max bet (normally 2£-5£ ) sometimes with no max bet what so ever. 

So when the normal player has a bank roll which he needs to normally fund 100% , and if loses it he will lose all his money, streamers need to only fund 50% of their usual bank roll so their lost is half of what the normal player loses.

The amount of time streamers ended up taking huge wins when they manage to finish the wagering requirements gives them a real advantage over everyone. 

So even though legit streamers keep saying they play with their own money and not fake, which is very true and I dont dispute that, and they do lose sometimes a lot of money streaming, they manage to come on top of all of us by far, all thanks to the huge advantage they have with deposit bonuses. 

If any streamer disputes this I would be happy to hear their side.

This is fair enough and true. 

What people need to keep in mind is that for the hours of entertainment the streamers put out week after week, it's necessary for them to habe these bonuses. Most of the time these bonuses is the difference between them being able to provide the entertainment and run their business with a profit, and the business model not working. 

Streamers play more than most of us. If anyone tries to keep playing as much as streamers on a hobby basis, they've likely got a problem. Streamers like Letsgiveitaspin, slotspinner and nickslots are always pointing these things out. They're encouraging viewers to be as responsible as possible at all times, evem though they make more the more you gamble through their links. They offer help whenever they can, and they're giving back to the community in so many ways. Not to mention the fact they wanna meet most of us when possible. 

I think the streamers I mentioned deserve all the success possible, and people need to stop being jealous of them, and realise that expecting to play as much as streamers do on their stakes is impossible in the long run. Keep in mind they played at way lower stakes in the beginning too, and built a following doing it.

 

sports bettingLetsGiveItASpin Sampiyonship - Fantasy Premier Leauge

NEWS JUST IN!

Harry Kane is suffering a hairloss injury, and will likely not play the first round, says Jose Mourinho.

Dele Alli's boyfriend broke up with her, according to anonymous sources. Alli is the highest paid "male" lesbian in the world, which has sparked outrage from female lesbians.

Inter's Christian Eriksen has revealed that he has a big one and he used it on all the spurs wags during his last season in the London club, and says that's why he didn't play much. He was too tired. Anonymous wag confirms.

More news to come in thr following days!