ban online casino streamers

[Slotplayer]

7 hours ago, TommyBhoy said:

  Guys I think you mean well but blocking software is very easily bypassed without much effort.  All you need to do is go to an online betting site through either a vpn of through an addon like hola.  The global exclusion programme will not work either as their is many sportsbooks outside the eu who dont give a toss if ur an addicted gambler or not. @Slotplayer  I understand its all about will power but honestly some people cant stop.@RyanMcSplooger  Ive read the comments on youtube after the video you made.  I dont know why the streamers cant simply turn round and say yes we are promoting casinos and there is a chance we are being viewed by minors and addicts - THE TRUTH.  Instead they get so defensive.  Yet its you that gets the hassle even though u have said that its down to the person not to gamble.  I would like to ask a streamer like @Nick why he allows known trolls to be moderators in his chat? This is a FACT  so Im not abusing anyone I just want to know why you allow this in ur supposedly reputable channel?

I am not sure exactly how that particular piece of blocking software works, but if it is anything like the one that I tested (it is now discontinued unfortunately), it sat on your computer and I couldn't uninstall it unless I did a factory reset. Even using a VPN etc. didn't work because it didn't go by IP address. It was even so sensitive that I couldn't get into my Halifax share dealing account.

As a responsible casino or steamer or affiliate, all you can do is give the tools to the problem gambler. If the problem gambler doesn't want to use those tools, then sorry but there is not anything else that can be done.

You mentioned sportsbooks outside of the EU and that they may not give a toss. I would add that they not only don't give a toss, the gambler may even find problems withdrawing if they are lucky enough to be in that position. At least with the genuine streamers, they are being directed to reputable casinos that have been researched, are secure to play at, don't have pirated games and pay reasonably quick. A fact that is often overseen by the likes of you.

[RyanMcSplooger]

6 hours ago, Nick said:

If you can message me who you believe of my mods are "trolls" then i will certainly look into it, but as far as i can see the mods do a good job of blocking vile comments from the usual trolls who pop in everyday.

I think it's quite clear who the trolls are Nick. The same ones who make fake accounts and talk to themselves on there. You must question why somebody has a spanner on every stream around. 

Not going to throw names about but it's very obvious. I would say they cause more trouble for streamers than the actual content. 

Some of them live a very sad existence. I say that without being offensive. It's probably not good for them watching these streams all day, not because of the content in their case or because they are addicts it's because they must have very little life outside YouTube. 

They watch maybe 4 hours with you, David, Rolla, Jimbo. In fact everyone who is streaming slots they are there with their spanner and the fake accounts, causing fictional drama using multiple accounts sometimes. Take away the army of around 5 or 6 of the super trolls and you would probably find things will calm down. Truth is they must be depressed, lonely or short of confidence to engage in real life activities. I let their comments slide because I know exactly who they are and why they do what they do. I feel sorry for these people as I used to be somewhat of a forum dweller, living a sad existence myself with internet 'friends'. I was a loner so can relate to them in some respect.

They will just drag everyone down in drama and it's not productive. Look, we are here talking like adults and it's relatively drama free. We have nothing more than a disagreement and a difference of opinion. These lunatics make wild accusations and make it about drama and sidetrack the real issue.

There's clear evidence out there if you look hard enough. They have probably been trolling you too under your nose. I understand this is all drama related and they are getting what they want by me even saying all this but seriously, don't be so blind. Look around at the community. 

[RyanMcSplooger]

1 minute ago, Slotplayer said:

No point having an adult conversation when the insults continue.

You must ask yourself slotplayer why these accusations keep coming up. I'm talking about the mods by the way. If you're not in the 'gang' you're silenced. It's school ground stuff it really is.

I'm not referring to your stream by the way as I don't know who your mods are. Nicks definitely has a few though, I've seen people challenge nick about this before and I guess he's oblivious to what they're doing. What I'm saying is that these rogue mods and the treatment of people angers others. If you have someone who is a troll who controls the live chat it can only end badly.

[Slotplayer]

3 minutes ago, RyanMcSplooger said:

You must ask yourself slotplayer why these accusations keep coming up. I'm talking about the mods by the way. If you're not in the 'gang' you're silenced. It's school ground stuff it really is.

I'm not referring to your stream by the way as I don't know who your mods are. Nicks definitely has a few though, I've seen people challenge nick about this before and I guess he's oblivious to what they're doing. What I'm saying is that these rogue mods and the treatment of people angers others. If you have someone who is a troll who controls the live chat it can only end badly.

Have a discussion with all means but to call them scum and low life ? 

[Slotplayer]

As for the 'freedom of speech' argument you go by the house rules. Dont like the rules, dont visit the house.

[Slotplayer]

An update from Gamban regarding blocking my Youtube and Twitch channels. They said that it currently can't be done. I am not sure why but an opportunity missed in my opinion as problem gamblers and those that want to quit gambling should not be watching gambling related stuff on social media. This piece of software can aid with it because it apparently already successfully blocks access to the casino sites.

I am trying to get an  understanding why it can't be implemented to find a workaround. If the software for example searches the web page for certain key words and then stops it being displayed, then there is an easy solution available.

[realagentbearrrrr]

Not reading the whole thread but why should people have to give up something they enjoy i.e watching streamers and signing up getting good bonuses playing at casinos etc just because some of you can't control yourselves ? Take responsibility for yourself and mind your own business rather than trying to get up in everyone else's . Let's live in a world where everything is over regulated and controlled/limited just because you are too weak minded to refrain from dumping your rent money on a slot machine just because you saw someone win big on it on twitch . So pathetic

[TommyBhoy]

5 hours ago, realagentbearrrrr said:

Not reading the whole thread but why should people have to give up something they enjoy i.e watching streamers and signing up getting good bonuses playing at casinos etc just because some of you can't control yourselves ? Take responsibility for yourself and mind your own business rather than trying to get up in everyone else's . Let's live in a world where everything is over regulated and controlled/limited just because you are too weak minded to refrain from dumping your rent money on a slot machine just because you saw someone win big on it on twitch . So pathetic

Whats pathetic is the way the streamers draw in vulnerable people.  Its a mental ilness you plonker.  Your attitude is pathetic.

[Slotplayer]

4 hours ago, TommyBhoy said:

Whats pathetic is the way the streamers draw in vulnerable people.  Its a mental ilness you plonker.  Your attitude is pathetic.

Anything can trigger a problem gambler. Simple things as walking past a bookies, seeing a gambling advert on TV, see a gambling board watching a football match, watching ANY gambling material on Youtube. The list goes on and on.

Why are the streamers being singled out? None of the genuine ones want a problem gambler being referred to a casino. Why should those that can control their gambling and enjoy the streams suffer by streams being banned?

[realagentbearrrrr]

9 hours ago, TommyBhoy said:

Whats pathetic is the way the streamers draw in vulnerable people.  Its a mental ilness you plonker.  Your attitude is pathetic.

You want a nanny state where everything that could possibly be harmful to anyone is removed ?  People have issues , that's life , grow up . If they weren't gambling addicts they would be something else harmful to themselves . Have you seen homeless people and alcoholics and drug addicts etc You gonna solve all that as well ? How about world hunger ?

[TommyBhoy]

I just want the streamers stopped as they are luring people to casinos.  Drop the affiliate links altogether.  

[TommyBhoy]

5 hours ago, Slotplayer said:

Anything can trigger a problem gambler. Simple things as walking past a bookies, seeing a gambling advert on TV, see a gambling board watching a football match, watching ANY gambling material on Youtube. The list goes on and on.

Why are the streamers being singled out? None of the genuine ones want a problem gambler being referred to a casino. Why should those that can control their gambling and enjoy the streams suffer by streams being banned?

Chairslots made a video and hes right u are in a grubby business and deserve no respect, what is the issuse with u saying im slotplayer and when i stream im advertising casinos in the hope of earning dosh through signups

[Slotplayer]

50 minutes ago, TommyBhoy said:

Chairslots made a video and hes right u are in a grubby business and deserve no respect, what is the issuse with u saying im slotplayer and when i stream im advertising casinos in the hope of earning dosh through signups

Have you even seen my streams? There is a big fuck off banner at the top of the screen welcoming people to sign up at whatever casino I am streaming.

My description on Youtube says:

"By signing up at the casino using one of my links, you will be financially supporting the stream."

My Youtube about page says:

"You can support my channel by clicking the affiliate links. By you then playing at the casino, I earn commission on your losses."

Isn't that clear enough? I make no secret that I make money off referring people to casinos and unless you're blind it is obviously clear that a casino is being advertised during the stream!

[TommyBhoy]

Have you even seen my streams? There is a big fuck off banner at the top of the screen welcoming people to sign up at whatever casino I am streaming.

u just shot urself in the foot there lol

big fuck off banner, thats so it hits viewers in the face and lures the vulnerable!

 

[Slotplayer]

34 minutes ago, TommyBhoy said:

Have you even seen my streams? There is a big fuck off banner at the top of the screen welcoming people to sign up at whatever casino I am streaming.

u just shot urself in the foot there lol

big fuck off banner, thats so it hits viewers in the face and lures the vulnerable!

 

Hardly luring them in. It is an invitation for them to sign up, no different than any other advert inviting the viewer to buy a product.

And besides, the vulnerable by which I take it you mean the problem gambler, shouldn't be watching me. Why are they and how can we stop them? Want to discuss that rather more difficult issue. You're welcome.

[Slotplayer]

Well that is me done.

I am no longer prepared to put up with the insults and violent threats.

You all got what you wanted but by total wrong means 

As for other affiliates. Don't entertain them and just mind your own business. It is not worth entering into discussion online because unfortunately it attracts the pond life of society. There are some that you can reason with but they attract the said pond life who just give you hell for daring to voice your opinion.

[RyanMcSplooger]

17 minutes ago, Slotplayer said:

Well that is me done.

I am no longer prepared to put up with the insults and violent threats.

You all got what you wanted but by total wrong means 

As for other affiliates. Don't entertain them and just mind your own business. It is not worth entering into discussion online because unfortunately it attracts the pond life of society. There are some that you can reason with but they attract the said pond life who just give you hell for daring to voice your opinion.

What you on about?

[Slotplayer]

25 minutes ago, RyanMcSplooger said:

What you on about?

The violent threats and racial insults. Not by you but  they comment in your videos so must be attracted to them or the campaign you are holding.

Police is going to be involved. I will not have my life threatened.

[RyanMcSplooger]

12 minutes ago, Slotplayer said:

The violent threats and racial insults. Not by you but  they comment in your videos so must be attracted to them or the campaign you are holding.

Police is going to be involved. I will not have my life threatened.

The trolls existed long before my videos. Unfortunately I've learnt there is a select group on both sides who take things too far for what is ultimately just a difference of opinion. 

I do not condone any type of harassment of threats and I hope whoever is doing this is caught.

[cenk]

i did read all your comments no one was talking about casinos games are fixed,all gambling are fixed,progressive jackpot,roulette,tennis,lottery,football..shortly all of it,very low percent some people wins but not big money just pocket money,who can tell me who win the big jackpot,i always see from internet that some one win huge jackpot from megamollah,they show us their pictures,very nice stories,(i spin my last money ,just 25p,i win jackpot i couldnt believe it,i m very happy my life change.lap,lap,lap)do you believe them?even goverment knows everything,goverment knows that they are cheating us but do nothing why?cos very simple,for tax,i gave the name myself,this bussiness name is legal robbery,i used the play and now i never touch or click the gambling website cos i know i wont win what i expecting,dear ladys and gentleman pls give up and stop gambling

 

sincerely

[TommyBhoy]

On 2/28/2018 at 22:47, cenk said:

i did read all your comments no one was talking about casinos games are fixed,all gambling are fixed,progressive jackpot,roulette,tennis,lottery,football..shortly all of it,very low percent some people wins but not big money just pocket money,who can tell me who win the big jackpot,i always see from internet that some one win huge jackpot from megamollah,they show us their pictures,very nice stories,(i spin my last money ,just 25p,i win jackpot i couldnt believe it,i m very happy my life change.lap,lap,lap)do you believe them?even goverment knows everything,goverment knows that they are cheating us but do nothing why?cos very simple,for tax,i gave the name myself,this bussiness name is legal robbery,i used the play and now i never touch or click the gambling website cos i know i wont win what i expecting,dear ladys and gentleman pls give up and stop gambling

 

sincerely

There is a reason why gambling is called a MUGS game

In my opinion some of the streamers are getting out of control now and it is clear as day they are addicted to gambling.

The streamers are so concerned about problem gamblers yet some of them have started doing £500+ spins on roulette.  They call Roulette the Devils wheel for a good reason.  Would love to hear @Slotplayer trying to argue this is acceptable.

Its hilarious why streamers such as @Nick have started releasing fail videos.  The heat is well and truly on as people are starting to see that yes everything you lot are doing is legal but its immoral and a shady business you are involved in.

[Slotplayer]

If people want to do £500 a spin on roulette and they can afford to do so and are prepared to lose it, then what is me or anybody else to stop them.

No genuine streamer ever said or says gambling is something you should do in order to make money. All of them go out of their way to say that long term you are set to lose money.

Nothing shady about it at all.

[NudgeShuffle]

9 hours ago, Slotplayer said:

No genuine streamer ever said or says gambling is something you should do in order to make money. All of them go out of their way to say that long term you are set to lose money.

Nothing shady about it at all.

A genuine streamer can make a genuine living out of winning and losing at gambling. There are plenty of professional gambling streamers who use their streams to a.) Generate affiliate income using their streams as the conduit for that affiliation b.) Negotiate non-standard bonuses and terms and conditions for promoting casinos which in some cases can be +EV.

For some people streaming is just a part time hobby / bit of fun. For others it's a professional business setup to make money. They are not mutually exclusive.

 

[Slotplayer]

1 hour ago, NudgeShuffle said:

A genuine streamer can make a genuine living out of winning and losing at gambling. There are plenty of professional gambling streamers who use their streams to a.) Generate affiliate income using their streams as the conduit for that affiliation b.) Negotiate non-standard bonuses and terms and conditions for promoting casinos which in some cases can be +EV.

For some people streaming is just a part time hobby / bit of fun. For others it's a professional business setup to make money. They are not mutually exclusive.

 

I was talking about people doing £500 roulette spins and the connection with responsible gambling.

£500 spins are not exclusively done by streamers. It is probably low rolling compared to proper high rollers.

If people object to what they consider irresponsible bets, then knock on the door of the casinos that let players bet so high. Don't blame the gambler who can afford to do such bets, irrespective where they obtained their legally earned money from.

[cenk]

ok,there are some affiliate people at here too,they aim is pulling the people to casinos,if you click their link what they sent you and deposit they will get some commission from casinos,they try to make money from you,anyway, i played 15 years at online casinos, i win nothing,i lost more than what i win,i tired too many online casinos and all same nothing is different,they are big fox people,random generation ? is it?of course not,non of them is random and all fixed,for example football is a big scam,especially premier league,all matches are fixed (it depends how much money people bet on the teams)you cant win big money,horse racing fixed,bingo is a fixed,lottory fixed too,finally all of them are fixed,keep far a way from online casino or any gambling,if i were you i wouldnt spent even 1 p for these people,think your family,your kids,your wife,mother and father,too many people has got problem with their family cos of the gambling,as i said before that goverment let them do this,so,if goverment let them then where is the human right?why gov dosent save people who has gambling problem even i believe gambling commission works together with betting office,think again when you lost all your money gambling commission do nothing,gamb commission try to help you just that how to stop gambling,its bullshit,..2 one is if casinos has got licence how still cheating us,why gamb commission do nothing,they are just watching how we are cheated by casinosshortly i m very interesting who is going to stop these people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!