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On 1/14/2018 at 2:33 AM, TechnoJoe said:

I'm very sorry, but if you are a gambling addict (to the point where it affects your life and disposable income adversely, family etc) then you are absolutely weak imo.

Gambling online or land based is like every other product out there - we can choose whether we purchase it or not! I enjoy that freedom of choice.

@TechnoJoe sorry you are so wrong, anyone who openly talks about gambling addiction should be applauded and not be called weak and worthless etc. I would say the opposite and applauded anyone who has a problem and is talking about it and dealing with it. Please dont tell me you stream with this attitude towards problem gamblers ? 

If so what casinos do you represent ? 

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On 1/14/2018 at 2:42 AM, TechnoJoe said:

How will this be accomplished?  Lets say the UK bans casino streaming (which they wont, because it cant be effected properly) - well the casino streamer will just stream to the other 194 countries in the world.  Banning streaming is a futile venture. Is every government on earth going to band together to ban casimo streaming world wide - no.  streaming will continue, because unless access to the internet is completely prohibited in your country then it will always be accessible.

The EU is 28 countries so that's that lot taken care off in one go. 

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On 1/14/2018 at 10:34 AM, TommyBhoy said:

I know fine well its legal, never said it wasnt.  I also know it will take a big incident to stop streamers ie someone harming themselves through gambling addiction and there parents coming out and saying yeah he watched streamers for 3 hours a day. .  Its immoral though.  Your promoting a product that is potentially causing people to end up with all types of financial problems.  If you can do that then thats upto you.    Adults make there own choices yes but your potentially drawing addicts back in. That is a fact.

@TommyBhoy you know it, This is when shit will hit the fan like never before headline news on the BBC and around the world, Personally I think then it is game over for this rubbish.

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10 hours ago, RyanMcSplooger said:

That's right Alan. I ran a website which found very low cost items from Amazon. No product cost more than £20. Can't see many people killing themselves over an 80% saving on hair straighteners and such to be fair. Unless the prices were just too incredibly low and shocked them to death. I once found a free vacuum on there after you applied a coupon and posted it. Maybe that's what finished them off.

Seriously people try to use ANYTHING against me. In this thread there is accusations of me disliking videos on multiple accounts. Yesterday I was accused of extortion (yes, you heard correctly) and telling people to report accounts using multiple aliases, I also get accused of being troll every day. I wonder who this Alan Smith is? I can guarantee that's not his name and is just another maniac troll who follows me around on the internet trying to intimidate me. Like I said, the community is toxic.

@RyanMcSplooger this has really opened my eyes up to this industry and the sorts of people involved are quite unbelievable. 

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9 hours ago, RyanMcSplooger said:

I have been campaigning behind the scenes to the relevant governing bodies about this for around 3 or 4 months. I am campaigning to protect problem gamblers yet I get a tirade of abuse and death threats sent to my immediate family, which made me take my videos down off YouTube. 

I'm also for the implementation of a gambling ID card. One which limits your deposits universally, from land based casino to bookmakers and online casinos. Call it a gateway in which you must enter ID before you place a bet/login. This to stop people depositing at various places after going over their deposit limit and self excluding from a certain bookmaker/casino.

@RyanMcSplooger that is a great idea. 

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46 minutes ago, Slotplayer said:

I am no friend of yours. Who the fuck are you to tell me I am in denial?

Sussed it out now - you are just a troll so will definitely ignore you from now on.

@Slotplayer respect your decision if you dont want to continue the discussion with me. But i do disagree that i have been a troll in any way and all the discussions i have had are about my personal opinions with other peoples personal opinions and I have had far more abuse given to me for just raising a issue that a lot of other people have with the industry. (By the way im not easily offended in any way so dont mind the abuse its more interacting)  

[Slotplayer]

25 minutes ago, TommyBhoy said:

@Casinomon plenty people have a problem with u lot, a tilting player? Like the streamers? Amazed the doughnut streamers are comparing amazon afilliation to casino affiliation!

@Slotplayershowing ur true colours with ur bad language!

I think I asked you before to look in the mirror. Clearly you haven't done that as yet.

I will now leave this topic to die. I was almost the only streamer to contribute and willing to make changes but will now retreat and mind my own business.

Adios all.

[TechnoJoe]

7 hours ago, Ban online casinostreaming said:

The EU is 28 countries so that's that lot taken care off in one go. 

Eh, not for long - Brrrrrexit

[TechnoJoe]

7 hours ago, Ban online casinostreaming said:

@TechnoJoe sorry you are so wrong, anyone who openly talks about gambling addiction should be applauded and not be called weak and worthless etc. I would say the opposite and applauded anyone who has a problem and is talking about it and dealing with it. Please dont tell me you stream with this attitude towards problem gamblers ? 

If so what casinos do you represent ? 

I dont stream

I dont rep any casino's

I didnt say worthless, please don't put words in my mouth 

Allowing gambling to become an addiction is weak minded (in my opinion)

[TechnoJoe]

7 hours ago, Slotplayer said:

I am no friend of yours. Who the fuck are you to tell me I am in denial?

Sussed it out now - you are just a troll so will definitely ignore you from now on.

I've said from the start - this guy is a troll 100%

[TechnoJoe]

4 hours ago, TommyBhoy said:

@Casinomon plenty people have a problem with u lot, a tilting player? Like the streamers? Amazed the doughnut streamers are comparing amazon afilliation to casino affiliation!

@Slotplayershowing ur true colours with ur bad language!

Tell me this TommyBHOY - are you boycotting the Celtic with their numerous ties to betting (dafabet etc)?

Their current sponsors include ....

Dafabet

Mr Green

Ladbrokes

Dear oh dear

Bit of a contradiction having BHOY in your name here when they HEAVILY promote gambling, and reach far more people than any casino streamer will do. What a hypocrite u are.

 

[TechnoJoe]

Bet you've never been on a Celtic forum insisting that Celtic are banned because of their casino and gambling promotion.

 

How many kids are running around with Dafabat imprinted across their chest eh mate.  Lets start a 'crusade' on the hoopy board rofl.

[HADTOCHANGE]

15 hours ago, RyanMcSplooger said:

I certainly don't mind this opinion at all. The streamers are being allowed to do this so the issue really isn't with them, they have just been taken over by greed and once they started to see the money to be made its easy to be very defensive and to shut their eyes and pretend that addicts are not watching. 

I take issue with number 2 though. For me personally I was gamble free for 3 and a half years and only deposited again after viewing these videos. I won't be alone. I do accept responsibility for my own actions but this type of content to an addict is extremely destructive. 

I wish you well to stop gambling (if that's what you're hoping to achieve)

I put a recent post up and kind of admitted about my failings and I am with you.... I did and still do whack a 20 (sometimes a lot more) on after watching streams and videos after over 5 years not gambling at all. I am in control of gambling but at same time these videos are destructive as I now have that urge to gamble again. I keep within my means and I am torn cause these guys do need a platform but I guarantee my addiction is no where near as bad as others but people do also need to man up and take responsibility; hope their is a middle ground as after a few months there are certain streamers who are taking the piss.

[HADTOCHANGE]

14 hours ago, Ban online casinostreaming said:

@TechnoJoe sorry you are so wrong, anyone who openly talks about gambling addiction should be applauded and not be called weak and worthless etc. I would say the opposite and applauded anyone who has a problem and is talking about it and dealing with it. Please dont tell me you stream with this attitude towards problem gamblers ? 

If so what casinos do you represent ? 

here here

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On 1/16/2018 at 2:48 AM, TechnoJoe said:

Bet you've never been on a Celtic forum insisting that Celtic are banned because of their casino and gambling promotion.

 

How many kids are running around with Dafabat imprinted across their chest eh mate.  Lets start a 'crusade' on the hoopy board rofl.

@TechnoJoeIt was banned over 10 years ago children football replica shirts are not allowed to have gambling advertising/content on them. 

 

Also if TV gambling advertising isnt allowed until after 9pm why do we have streamers putting up live gambling content during the day ? just not acceptable. 

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-473951/Gambling-sponsors-erased-childrens-replica-football-shirts.html

 

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Please see a reply from the UK Gambling commission, If you have a issue and want to log a complaint about the streamers please do so using the information below. 

 

Also a interesting read on tighter affiliate regulations coming into affect so things are moving forward but please get involved. 

 

Affiliate Marketing

 

You have also expressed concerns regarding gambling advertisements, particular those relating to affiliate marketing. You believe that the frequency of advertisements across media platforms is having a negative impact and is targeting vulnerable people.

 

Regulations governing gambling marketing and advertising are shared between a number of bodies, including the Commission, Ofcom, the Committees of Advertising Practice (CAP), the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) and the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO). In order to have some consistency and to avoid confusion, we work with these other bodies on the basis that whereas we lead primarily on the regulation of gambling, other bodies lead on marketing and advertising.

 

The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) is the UK’s independent regulator of advertising. If you have a concerns regarding gambling advertisements online you should visit the ASA website and complain to them directly. They have a complaint form on their web-site here. They also have further information on how to protect children from targeting advertisements online on their website, here. If serious or repeated breaches of the codes occur, the ASA may refer licence holders to the Gambling Commission or Ofcom.

 

Furthermore if you believe that a licence holder is carrying out marketing activity that contravenes the industry code of practice on advertising you could also contact the Remote Gambling Association, who chair the Review Group for Socially Responsible Advertising.  We have provided their link to their web-site below:

 

http://argo.org.uk/

 

More recently, as regulatory pressure builds from the Gambling Commission, Advertising Standards Authority and Information Commissioners Office, a new trade body for affiliates is to be established: the International Gaming Affiliate Association (IGAA).

A group of leading affiliates and gaming legal experts are setting up the trade body to help the affiliate sector tackle the increasing regulatory scrutiny it is facing.

The new body, to be named the International Gaming Affiliate Association (iGAA), aims to establish a code of practice to ensure affiliates are promoting gambling in a responsible way and acting in compliance with all local laws.

Further articles relating to this are below:

https://calvinayre.com/2017/09/16/business/igaming-affiliates-circle-wagons-arrows-fly/

https://www.gamblinginsider.com/trafficology/pdf/trafficology-2017-august.pdf

 

We hope that we have responded to all your questions and provided you with reassurance that we will continue to look at ways to make gambling fairer and safer for all.

 

We would like to take this opportunity to thank you for bring your concerns to our attention.  We rely on consumers sharing their experiences in order to provide a valuable insight into the industry and to help drive improvements going forward.  The information that we gather forms part of the dialogue that we have in a wider arena including with both operators and our DCMS.

 

You can also raise the matters yourself with the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) or your local Member of Parliament (MP).

[Ziggy]

On 1/15/2018 at 2:36 PM, Slotplayer said:

Well that card and the global self exclusion database coming up will certainly help those that can't control their gambling and the sooner either or both are implemented the better as far as I am concerned.

I am all for protecting the problem gambler but I don't believe those that can control their gambling should suffer because of it.

Not a single person on this forum is in control of their gambling. And if you are trying to tell yourself that, you are lying or being ignorant. Even the majority of streamers have accepted and confirmed that they are gambling addicts. 

[Ziggy]

3 hours ago, Ban online casinostreaming said:

Please see a reply from the UK Gambling commission, If you have a issue and want to log a complaint about the streamers please do so using the information below. 

 

Also a interesting read on tighter affiliate regulations coming into affect so things are moving forward but please get involved. 

 

Affiliate Marketing

 

You have also expressed concerns regarding gambling advertisements, particular those relating to affiliate marketing. You believe that the frequency of advertisements across media platforms is having a negative impact and is targeting vulnerable people.

 

Regulations governing gambling marketing and advertising are shared between a number of bodies, including the Commission, Ofcom, the Committees of Advertising Practice (CAP), the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) and the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO). In order to have some consistency and to avoid confusion, we work with these other bodies on the basis that whereas we lead primarily on the regulation of gambling, other bodies lead on marketing and advertising.

 

The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) is the UK’s independent regulator of advertising. If you have a concerns regarding gambling advertisements online you should visit the ASA website and complain to them directly. They have a complaint form on their web-site here. They also have further information on how to protect children from targeting advertisements online on their website, here. If serious or repeated breaches of the codes occur, the ASA may refer licence holders to the Gambling Commission or Ofcom.

 

Furthermore if you believe that a licence holder is carrying out marketing activity that contravenes the industry code of practice on advertising you could also contact the Remote Gambling Association, who chair the Review Group for Socially Responsible Advertising.  We have provided their link to their web-site below:

 

http://argo.org.uk/

 

More recently, as regulatory pressure builds from the Gambling Commission, Advertising Standards Authority and Information Commissioners Office, a new trade body for affiliates is to be established: the International Gaming Affiliate Association (IGAA).

A group of leading affiliates and gaming legal experts are setting up the trade body to help the affiliate sector tackle the increasing regulatory scrutiny it is facing.

The new body, to be named the International Gaming Affiliate Association (iGAA), aims to establish a code of practice to ensure affiliates are promoting gambling in a responsible way and acting in compliance with all local laws.

Further articles relating to this are below:

https://calvinayre.com/2017/09/16/business/igaming-affiliates-circle-wagons-arrows-fly/

https://www.gamblinginsider.com/trafficology/pdf/trafficology-2017-august.pdf

 

We hope that we have responded to all your questions and provided you with reassurance that we will continue to look at ways to make gambling fairer and safer for all.

 

We would like to take this opportunity to thank you for bring your concerns to our attention.  We rely on consumers sharing their experiences in order to provide a valuable insight into the industry and to help drive improvements going forward.  The information that we gather forms part of the dialogue that we have in a wider arena including with both operators and our DCMS.

 

You can also raise the matters yourself with the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) or your local Member of Parliament (MP).

UKGC is hopeless. They have no power nor the influence to control gambling in the UK. All they can do is refuse someone a license, which they rarely do. 

[RyanMcSplooger]

5 minutes ago, Ziggy said:

Not a single person on this forum is in control of their gambling. And if you are trying to tell yourself that, you are lying or being ignorant. Even the majority of streamers have accepted and confirmed that they are gambling addicts. 

I find it very worrying that streamers are addicts and are allowed to promote casinos. Most are self confessed addicts but now say they are okay. Of course they are okay when the viewers are paying for them to gamble. In no other industry would this happen. Alcoholics would not be allowed to promote alcohol, 'reformed' or not.

[RyanMcSplooger]

6 minutes ago, Ziggy said:

UKGC is hopeless. They have no power nor the influence to control gambling in the UK. All they can do is refuse someone a license, which they rarely do. 

I've had success with UKGC in the past. Although this was in relation to illegal giveaways and raffles. Those who push giveaways which require you to sign up and deposit should be reported to them as they are doing this without a license. They are not the ones to contact about streamers in general though

[Slotplayer]

30 minutes ago, Ziggy said:

Not a single person on this forum is in control of their gambling. And if you are trying to tell yourself that, you are lying or being ignorant. Even the majority of streamers have accepted and confirmed that they are gambling addicts. 

Laughable comment at best.

All on this forum like playing slots but then to say not a single person is in control of their gambling is just an idiotic statement.

And if you dare to say different you are either ignorant of it, in denial or lying. Yeah right.

Absolutely clueless.

Because you were silly enough to blow your money, doesn't mean others are as silly as you are.

[slotsofun]

8 hours ago, Slotplayer said:

Laughable comment at best.

All on this forum like playing slots but then to say not a single person is in control of their gambling is just an idiotic statement.

And if you dare to say different you are either ignorant of it, in denial or lying. Yeah right.

Absolutely clueless.

Because you were silly enough to blow your money, doesn't mean others are as silly as you are.

He also cannot say that about someone for which he has no financial evidence to support. To me, uncontrollable gambling is losing what you can't afford to lose, so unless Ryan has the streamers financial information, he has no evidence to support that claim.

[TommyBhoy]

@TechnoJoe I dont even support celtic, never watch Scottish football so you have made yourself look like a GRADE A plonker

@SlotplayerI dont think everyone has a gambling problem but I think there are alot of people on this forum and viewing streams that do.

I personally dont think streamers will be banned but maybe regulated.  Things like not streaming before 9pm etc etc.  Streaming at 9am in the morning is a effin joke.  All the casino grounds streamers have it so they are streaming nearly the full day.

[TommyBhoy]

1 hour ago, slotsofun said:

He also cannot say that about someone for which he has no financial evidence to support. To me, uncontrollable gambling is losing what you can't afford to lose, so unless Ryan has the streamers financial information, he has no evidence to support that claim.

Exactly the same goes with whether the streamers money is real or not, unless u have a streamers bank statements u have not got a shred  of evidence that the money is real.  Yet anyone who dares question anyone is abused rotten on this forum.  

[RyanMcSplooger]

2 hours ago, slotsofun said:

He also cannot say that about someone for which he has no financial evidence to support. To me, uncontrollable gambling is losing what you can't afford to lose, so unless Ryan has the streamers financial information, he has no evidence to support that claim.

I'm confused. You don't need streamers financial information if they have said they have an addiction? Many of them have admitted it already.