Netherlands: Dutch market online gambling regulated October 1st, 2021

[Ybezymer]

Anyone know any dutch legislated (since the new law) casino where paying with paysafecard/paypal is possible?

 

Thanks in advance

[vanHooff]

No neither is going to be allowed at any Dutch legalized casino.

Bank accounts have to be registered to the player's name and have to be European.

Funding your player casino account from different bank accounts is not forbidden by law (although it might be disallowed from the casino Terms and conditions) but you may only cashout to 1 bank account.

[vanHooff]

One more licensed casino is online now: bingoal.nl

Bingoal.nl has a (live) sportsbook and a (live) casino .

This brings the number of licensed operators that have gone live to 7 out of 10.
From the first group of licensees we are awaiting the launch of Jack's casino, Tombola and Bet365
 

[Wallstreet]

Soooo, I just won: 639,81 with a 15 euro bet on batavia casino. Now what? do i need to pay the kansspelbelasting? and when do i need to pay it? or if i just withdrawal less then 449 it will not be a problem? like a 2 times 315 withdrawal. 

[Svenix]

Nope, the casino pays the taxes. You can withdrawal it all at once. 

[Guzzie]

Which DUtch casino do you guys recommened? I tried Holland but idk... 

[TrustworthyC]

I wanted to hold off, but as a class-A degenerate gambler, seeing many of you updating here, and your experiences weren't all bad so far, i also took the plunge...

Holland Casino was a fail: the widget didn't work for my Huawei, resulting in an error each time after it was done zooming and focusing on my ID. Don't have a cam on my PC so that was the only other option. Weird they don't let you manually upload docs??

On to Betcity, i think i screwed that up myself: did everything as should, used the IDIN option, but when trying to log in afterwards, got an error message: upon checking, seems i forgotten to update my address in my Bankaccount (moved fairly recently), so that probably gave some sort of mismatch!

But no real way to open a ticket, and each time i tried chat it was either not available or two times i got a queue of more than 30 freaking peeps, lol! Gave up...

On to Fairplay, so far finally that seemed to work. Got acc. working, but after a few small deposits, got an email to re-send the back-side. Did that, and made some more tiny deposits, but still didn't hear back for 2 days, and when i checked my personal settings just now, i saw it is all still under review. So now i stopped playing until i'm sure that i'm verified. 

Not that i'm expecting issues, but i'm rather safe then sorry. (bit after the fact, but hey)

So, kind of what i had expected

Also, did anyone see the crazy low RTP's on Fairplay? Ddin't check the other ones yet, but some slots are as low as 88%!

God i miss Leo, Casumo and Unibet right now!!!

Edited 12 October, 2021 by TrustworthyC

[Janalleman]

On 12/10/2021 at 18:15, TrustworthyC said:

I wanted to hold off, but as a class-A degenerate gambler, seeing many of you updating here, and your experiences weren't all bad so far, i also took the plunge...

Holland Casino was a fail: the widget didn't work for my Huawei, resulting in an error each time after it was done zooming and focusing on my ID. Don't have a cam on my PC so that was the only other option. Weird they don't let you manually upload docs??

On to Betcity, i think i screwed that up myself: did everything as should, used the IDIN option, but when trying to log in afterwards, got an error message: upon checking, seems i forgotten to update my address in my Bankaccount (moved fairly recently), so that probably gave some sort of mismatch!

But no real way to open a ticket, and each time i tried chat it was either not available or two times i got a queue of more than 30 freaking peeps, lol! Gave up...

On to Fairplay, so far finally that seemed to work. Got acc. working, but after a few small deposits, got an email to re-send the back-side. Did that, and made some more tiny deposits, but still didn't hear back for 2 days, and when i checked my personal settings just now, i saw it is all still under review. So now i stopped playing until i'm sure that i'm verified. 

Not that i'm expecting issues, but i'm rather safe then sorry. (bit after the fact, but hey)

So, kind of what i had expected

Also, did anyone see the crazy low RTP's on Fairplay? Ddin't check the other ones yet, but some slots are as low as 88%!

God i miss Leo, Casumo and Unibet right now!!!

Right now I think bataviacasino is probably the best pick.
But yeah, compared to what we're used to it's a disaster.

I just wonder how long it's gonna take till a new NLC release like Evil Goblins hits a Dutch casino. I cannot find Mental anywhere either.. Now I really hope this is not because of the theme 😅.

I don't know if anyone plays on GGPoker, but here is an update regarding the welcome bonus. We would receive AoF SnG tickets, but that gamemode is not available to the Dutch:

''Vanwege regelgeving moesten we ons AoF Sit&Go-aanbod kort na de lancering verwijderen, wat betekende dat sommige spelers tickets overhielden die ze niet konden gebruiken.
Goed Nieuws: alle ongebruikte AoF Sit&Go-tickets die aan onze Nederlandse spelers zijn uitgegeven, worden van de spelersaccounts verwijderd en de waarde wordt uitgegeven in C$.
Dit zal enige tijd duren en het team verantwoord hiervoor heeft aangegeven dat het op 23 oktober klaar zal zijn.''

[Svenix]

@Bob_RapidCasino a bit off-topic, but: 

I'm Dutch and it's illegal for me to play on non-regulated websites. Still I'm being able to play on all of BP Group ltd. gamblingsites even though you guys clearly state in your FAQ that I should not play on your sites. It can cost me a fine of 8700€ and BP group can be fined 5% of their avenue, the only big difference: I have to pay it and you guys won't pay it. Why doesn't BP group block acces for all Dutch players? People could end up in serious trouble and it doesn't fit with 'responsible gambling' in my eyes. I asked the same to someone from the live-chat but he was quite rude and didn't want to help. 

[NeWbZs]

Any news on:

https://www.livescorebet.com/

http://bet365.nl/

 

[SteveKent]

Bet365.nl is aiming to be live on October 19

[vanHooff]

For Livescore I only have some second-hand information from another (affiliate) website that says Q1 2022.

 

[NeWbZs]

1 hour ago, SteveKent said:

Bet365.nl is aiming to be live on October 19

Awesome, where did you here that?

 

1 hour ago, vanHooff said:

For Livescore I only have some second-hand information from another (affiliate) website that says Q1 2022.

 

Strange that a company can go 6 months without a lot of competitors but still wait that long to go online

[Kreezymind]

15 hours ago, Svenix said:

@Bob_RapidCasino a bit off-topic, but: 

I'm Dutch and it's illegal for me to play on non-regulated websites. Still I'm being able to play on all of BP Group ltd. gamblingsites even though you guys clearly state in your FAQ that I should not play on your sites. It can cost me a fine of 8700€ and BP group can be fined 5% of their avenue, the only big difference: I have to pay it and you guys won't pay it. Why doesn't BP group block acces for all Dutch players? People could end up in serious trouble and it doesn't fit with 'responsible gambling' in my eyes. I asked the same to someone from the live-chat but he was quite rude and didn't want to help. 

You are absolutely right... altho i wouldnt worry too much, i dont honestly believe they will enforce on this and fine players who are playing illegaly, too much time and money which they dont have. More chance they will go after the casino's that make it possible for you to play.

Edited 18 October, 2021 by Kreezymind

[Svenix]

44 minutes ago, Kreezymind said:

You are absolutely right... altho i wouldnt worry too much, i dont honestly believe they will enforce on this and fine players who are playing illegaly, too much time and money which they dont have. More chance they will go after the casino's that make it possible for you to play.

I don't know what to expect from KSA. I don't think they will take action indeed, until you win big (10k+) and the bank has to pass the transaction details to the 'Belastingdienst'. If the casino's will pay you out by the way, They can easily say that Dutch players are not allowed to play on their websites and simply won't pay you out because of their T&C. The rubbish part? Most of the people who will go to the illegal websites are addicted, signed up at cruks and than will go down the illegal way to gamble and can end up into more sh*t . 

[puntzak]

Play n go is added at batavia.Normal rtp. 😃

[Dennisgr92]

6 hours ago, puntzak said:

Play n go is added at batavia.Normal rtp. 😃

None of their newer slots sadly.

[SteveKent]

Update on Livescorebet and Bet365

Livescorebet: will be online in 2022 (they did not expect the permit so quick and were not ready to go live so soon)

Bet365: They will be online in a week from today (casinonieuws.nl)

[NeWbZs]

Asked them directly, got an email within 5 minutes so thats already great. 

They will open in the very near future so that seems to in line with what casinonieuws.nl says.

[Ybezymer]

I just contacted Holland casino about their Welcome bonus, since i did not get the option to apply the welcome bonus when i deposited. They said i denied the bonus when i deposited and that it's my own fault and that im all out of luck and can not get the bonus again. Very unfriendly customer support and will not deposit a penny there again.

[NeWbZs]

10 hours ago, Ybezymer said:

I just contacted Holland casino about their Welcome bonus, since i did not get the option to apply the welcome bonus when i deposited. They said i denied the bonus when i deposited and that it's my own fault and that im all out of luck and can not get the bonus again. Very unfriendly customer support and will not deposit a penny there again.

I send them an email over a week ago, no reply yet. Also the sportsbetting bonus is very poor. 

Avoid Hollandcasino online! Not a place for real gamblers. 

[Ybezymer]

7 hours ago, NeWbZs said:

I send them an email over a week ago, no reply yet. Also the sportsbetting bonus is very poor. 

Avoid Hollandcasino online! Not a place for real gamblers. 

Not surprising, i tried to use the 'chat' and 'mailing' system they have and also had no reply in 7 days. I'm pretty sure the casino is run by some corporate shmuck who knows nothing about online casino's and player retention. Their loss. I'm hoping to find a dutch legislated casino with fast cashouts and regular bonuses and good customer support. Then they will have a new regular. For now im just flying around gambling everywhere when i get the urge.

[Dennisgr92]

On 23/10/2021 at 17:42, Ybezymer said:

Not surprising, i tried to use the 'chat' and 'mailing' system they have and also had no reply in 7 days. I'm pretty sure the casino is run by some corporate shmuck who knows nothing about online casino's and player retention. Their loss. I'm hoping to find a dutch legislated casino with fast cashouts and regular bonuses and good customer support. Then they will have a new regular. For now im just flying around gambling everywhere when i get the urge.

Batavia gives the good RTP options, cashouts are promoted to be quick, I made 1 withdrawal and it was accepted within 10 minutes and recieved it on my bank account 1 hour later so thats all good. No comment on their customer support since I did not contact them.

[Ybezymer]

19 hours ago, Dennisgr92 said:

Batavia gives the good RTP options, cashouts are promoted to be quick, I made 1 withdrawal and it was accepted within 10 minutes and recieved it on my bank account 1 hour later so thats all good. No comment on their customer support since I did not contact them.

Sounds good, will give them a bash in my next session. 

[Kurdy]

Hi,

I just made a deposit on batavia, money went out of my bank account, but still 0 balance.
In the transaction page its saying pending...
Anyone having the same problem?