Streamers Like Ayezee Are Going To Ruin it For Everyone

[TommyBhoy]

First of all I have nothing personal against these Crypto Casino Streamers.    I genuinely believe the negativity caused by these guys will eventually make Youtube and Twitch ban any forms of gambling streams which will kill off the hard working genuine streamers.

Take Ayezee for example, this guy is betting millions and millions using sponsored money(He exclusively gambles at a crypto casino, he would need 100,000 depositors a week to play on their commission amounts).

The streaming world is now so out of touch with reality and its going to come crashing down.

Ayezee is now making people think they can become millionaires playing slots as he is allegedly cashing out millions.  Its so dangerous! 
 

Id love to hear some @Casinogrounds streamers opinions because these streamers are potentially going to ruin their livelyhoods. 

[thrust]

There is a difference between how much someone is wagering and "betting millions and millions". On top of that he does not use sponsored money. You can actually check out the block chain and see every transaction he does. He has been in the crypto game before the last two runs lol. 

I don't think the streaming world is out of touch with reality. You have the same type of people doing this stuff and land based casinos. It is just getting more viewership and becoming more main stream thanks to twitch and YouTube.  

Back to ayezee, he literally tells everyone multiple times during a stream to not try and repeat what he is doing. Also were is the allegedly cashing out millions coming from? He is up 1.7 at the moment but has days were he looses 300k. There is nothing dangerous about this. He is the only streaming I see that shows every transaction on the blockchain and has as much transparency as he has. You should ask him to pay rent since he is in your head rent free lol.

 

[TommyBhoy]

1 hour ago, thrust said:

There is a difference between how much someone is wagering and "betting millions and millions". On top of that he does not use sponsored money. You can actually check out the block chain and see every transaction he does. He has been in the crypto game before the last two runs lol. 

I don't think the streaming world is out of touch with reality. You have the same type of people doing this stuff and land based casinos. It is just getting more viewership and becoming more main stream thanks to twitch and YouTube.  

Back to ayezee, he literally tells everyone multiple times during a stream to not try and repeat what he is doing. Also were is the allegedly cashing out millions coming from? He is up 1.7 at the moment but has days were he looses 300k. There is nothing dangerous about this. He is the only streaming I see that shows every transaction on the blockchain and has as much transparency as he has. You should ask him to pay rent since he is in your head rent free lol.

 

Typical fan boy response.  
 

So doing 500,000 bonus hunts is not out of touch with with reality? Have a day off lad.

Also showing blockchain transactions means absolutely nothing.  How do you actually know its his transactions? 
 

The biggest tell tale is when  millionaires are saying they could not afford those stakes.  So how can he? 
 

Next you will be saying Foss is legit lol! 

[thrust]

Reality is subjective. Doing 2 500k bonus hunts is not any different from high rollers blowing through millions a night at a land based casino. 

Showing block chain transactions actually means everything. You know they are his because they can be digitally signed. Also what someone can afford is also subjective. It comes down to what someone is fine risking. Those "millionaires" can afford those stakes, that is simple mathematics. They chose not to.  If a 500k hunt pays back 500k and another hunt is done with with it and pays 400k, the player is only down 100k. It is obvious you have no clue about crypto or anything for that matter. Instead of complaining  about what people do with there money, you should go out and get a job. Btw 50k worth a bitcoin in 2016 sold at ath is 6,000,000. Again, you should probably do some research instead of complaining on a forum.

[Slotplayer]

You must have more money than sense ploughing in 500k worth of money to spunk away.

As for "only down 100k", really?

This type of streamer has totally ruined the Twitch casino / slot section that once upon a time was a place where real gamblers were having a wager just as any other punter would.

[Hehe333mp2]

1 hour ago, Slotplayer said:

You must have more money than sense ploughing in 500k worth of money to spunk away.

As for "only down 100k", really?

This type of streamer has totally ruined the Twitch casino / slot section that once upon a time was a place where real gamblers were having a wager just as any other punter would.

Some truth to this and some fail

Edited 14 June, 2021 by Hehe333mp2
Not really worth it people believe what they want

[vanHooff]

 

On 11/06/2021 at 15:03, TommyBhoy said:

First of all I have nothing personal against these Crypto Casino Streamers.    I genuinely believe the negativity caused by these guys will eventually make Youtube and Twitch ban any forms of gambling streams which will kill off the hard working genuine streamers.

Id love to hear some @Casinogrounds streamers opinions because these streamers are potentially going to ruin their livelyhoods. 

My opinion is just one of a punter and armchair expert 😉

I am a bit surprised that Youtube and Twitch have allowed online gambling content on their respective platforms up till now.
Not only are they likely to get many complaints from concerned people, but they might also get some more or less 'official' complaints from gambling authorities / gambling commissions in newly regulated national markets.

In these markets only the licensed casino's are allowed to target their customers with marketing, under the guidelines of the license.
This always includes responsible gambling, imo therefore sensible stakes even if the streamer can afford to play on much higher stakes.  

The easiest way for YT/Twitch to deal with these complaints would appear to be block all online gambling content, but who knows..
I suspect that money talks and YT/Twitch have not been pressured enough to change their policies in a big way. 

I would be quite surprised to find out if a 'legit online casino' lobby has enough clout with the platforms to keep the content up, considering that the online gambling market is quite fragmented. Also, if all online gambling content on Youtube / Twitch is blocked in certain countries, there is a negative marketing effect for licensed casino's, but on the other hand that brings a positive effect on Channelization. 
 

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Streamers Like Ayezee Are Going To Ruin it For Everyone

Well, who knows. 
Maybe YT/Twitch will block all online gambling content in the future, maybe the content will be geo-blocked in regulated countries .

For the regulated countries we might see country-specific streaming or other video content from licensed casino's on YT/Twitch or even on other platforms. 

As a p.s.: take note the competitive advantage of  CG forum compared to many other gambling forums if all gambling content were erased from YT/Twitch now, considering all the uploaded content here, whereas many forums only allow to deeplink.

I am looking forward to exiting times.
In my country the Netherlands the market is going to be regulated per October 1st.
As far as I understand some 25-30 parties will get licensed per then, and a next batch of parties that is placed on the penalty-bench for now,
will apply to get licensed at the next opportunity, a year later?   

[TommyBhoy]

On 13/06/2021 at 22:07, thrust said:

Reality is subjective. Doing 2 500k bonus hunts is not any different from high rollers blowing through millions a night at a land based casino. 

Showing block chain transactions actually means everything. You know they are his because they can be digitally signed. Also what someone can afford is also subjective. It comes down to what someone is fine risking. Those "millionaires" can afford those stakes, that is simple mathematics. They chose not to.  If a 500k hunt pays back 500k and another hunt is done with with it and pays 400k, the player is only down 100k. It is obvious you have no clue about crypto or anything for that matter. Instead of complaining  about what people do with there money, you should go out and get a job. Btw 50k worth a bitcoin in 2016 sold at ath is 6,000,000. Again, you should probably do some research instead of complaining on a forum.

I have 4 crypto websites, I understand it more than you will ever.

Some of these crypto casinos refund deposits meaning a blockchain address means nothing.

Ayzee was betting 5 euros then he got involved with crypto casinos and is all of a sudden doing 50 grand buys,  that not suspicious? 
 

He also is friendly with ‘fake foss’ a guy that appeared from nowhere doing huge buys and 70k followers on Twitch.

They are funded by the casinos.  They are acting like they can afford it when they cant.  Its all a game. 

[damnyouwagering]

On 13/06/2021 at 17:20, thrust said:

There is a difference between how much someone is wagering and "betting millions and millions". On top of that he does not use sponsored money. You can actually check out the block chain and see every transaction he does. He has been in the crypto game before the last two runs lol. 

I don't think the streaming world is out of touch with reality. You have the same type of people doing this stuff and land based casinos. It is just getting more viewership and becoming more main stream thanks to twitch and YouTube.  

Back to ayezee, he literally tells everyone multiple times during a stream to not try and repeat what he is doing. Also were is the allegedly cashing out millions coming from? He is up 1.7 at the moment but has days were he looses 300k. There is nothing dangerous about this. He is the only streaming I see that shows every transaction on the blockchain and has as much transparency as he has. You should ask him to pay rent since he is in your head rent free lol.

 

Just WOW, I understand you are a fan boy but if you think Ayezee is legit- you sir are from a different planet LMFAO

How just how do people survive in this world when they legit think hes real. I do hope you are a troll and not just plain stupid

[Ash W]

**Problems with these Crypto streamers**

*They advertise sites with absolutely appalling self exclusion policies that can be potentially ruining for problem gamblers. 

*Play unrealistic stakes

*Play with fake/sponsored/casino money

*Play daft/unrealistic bonus buys - You might aswell play demo mode

*The sites they play have NO KYC - You're never verified or your age checked!

The damage this kind of site causes is unreal! At least with CG verified site your protected by self exclusion and they don't allow these Crypto clowns to represent them!

[TommyBhoy]

2 hours ago, arw5533 said:

**Problems with these Crypto streamers**

*They advertise sites with absolutely appalling self exclusion policies that can be potentially ruining for problem gamblers. 

*Play unrealistic stakes

*Play with fake/sponsored/casino money

*Play daft/unrealistic bonus buys - You might aswell play demo mode

*The sites they play have NO KYC - You're never verified or your age checked!

The damage this kind of site causes is unreal! At least with CG verified site your protected by self exclusion and they don't allow these Crypto clowns to represent them!

Casinogrounds allow clips of @Daskeleleleplaying at one of these shady crypto casinos on their weekly big wins videos. 

[RemixYT]

It's getting ridiculous now. They aren't just ruining it they have now actually ruined it. You also have these big youtubers and big twitch people endorsing the sites as well. 

[siggy]

2 hours ago, TommyBhoy said:

Casinogrounds allow clips of @Daskeleleleplaying at one of these shady crypto casinos on their weekly big wins videos. 

Surely nobody believes Daske is playing with real money, I saw him doing some €500 spins a couple of months ago, Won't watch him again.

[thelegendhimself222]

13 minutes ago, siggy said:

Surely nobody believes Daske is playing with real money, I saw him doing some €500 spins a couple of months ago, Won't watch him again.

Daske is one of the very few streamers outside of casinogrounds (which they were a part of not too long ago) that is playing with real money and I'm pretty sure that you can ask whoever you want and the answer will be positive instead of the usual "you have to make up your own mind about that" line. He did like five 500e spins on beetlejuice which was a meme (both the 500e spins and the slot). Also, that was right after a 100k cashout, but don't quote me on that.

[siggy]

1 minute ago, thelegendhimself222 said:

Daske is one of the very few streamers outside of casinogrounds (which they were a part of not too long ago) that is playing with real money and I'm pretty sure that you can ask whoever you want and the answer will be positive instead of the usual "you have to make up your own mind about that" line. He did like five 500e spins on beetlejuice which was a meme (both the 500e spins and the slot). Also, that was right after a 100k cashout, but don't quote me on that.

Yeah it was after the Lil Devil win, then Philip did a 100k Bonus Hunt to wager, But after he cashed out some (70 or 80k, can't remember which) he did €500 spins with a 13k balance, He may have been legit when associated with CG but as soon as he left he was using crypto casinos and then started promoting Stake!, I asked Kim what he thought about them promoting Stake! and he didn't want to comment about it, No legit streamer would go anywhere near Stake! They also still promote Boom

[thelegendhimself222]

6 minutes ago, siggy said:

Yeah it was after the Lil Devil win, then Philip did a 100k Bonus Hunt to wager, But after he cashed out some (70 or 80k, can't remember which) he did €500 spins with a 13k balance, He may have been legit when associated with CG but as soon as he left he was using crypto casinos and then started promoting Stake!, I asked Kim what he thought about them promoting Stake! and he didn't want to comment about it, No legit streamer would go anywhere near Stake! They also still promote Boom

They are promoting MyStake which is not the same site as Stake which I can guarantee they will never promote. Out of cryptocasinos they only promote Gamdom at which they play their usual stakes. I haven't noticed a slight increase and I have been watching their stream basically daily for years.

[siggy]

3 hours ago, thelegendhimself222 said:

They are promoting MyStake which is not the same site as Stake which I can guarantee they will never promote. Out of cryptocasinos they only promote Gamdom at which they play their usual stakes. I haven't noticed a slight increase and I have been watching their stream basically daily for years.

THEY DID promote Stake but got alot of grief over it and stopped promoting them, "MyStake" dude please, Now you're just showing yourself to be one of those fanboys who will say anything to defend their heroes, Kim has commented on it, or should i say chose not to comment on it but did acknowledge the question.

Edited 18 June, 2021 by siggy

[thelegendhimself222]

39 minutes ago, siggy said:

THEY DID promote Stake but got alot of grief over it and stopped promoting them, "MyStake" dude please, Now you're just showing yourself to be one of those fanboys who will say anything to defend their heroes, Kim has commented on it, or should i say chose not to comment on it but did acknowledge the question.

The fact that they stopped promoting them should be saying enough. I don't see how is a casinos NAME relevant to any of this because Stake and MyStake are not connected in any way as far as I know. I'm pretty sure MyStake isn't even a crypto casino, and even if it was, how is that relevant to them being real or fake money? I don't know what Kim specifically said and what the question was but they have streamed together a few times and Kim has said that they are real money multiple times so I really don't see the problem.

[LetsTalkFacts]

I was a lurker for a long time and I followed this case for a while and I feel now it's the time to step in. @Daskelelele is now playing on Gamdom and I am 100% sure there is something sketchy about that. I remember like 5 months ago I was watching a small bets streamer with raw money and he was broke every stream. All of a sudden someone from Gamdom came in and offered that streamer an affiliation and from that day he's playing big bets now haha. After a lot of questions and criticism that streamer confessed he plays with fake sponsored by Gamdom money. It's obvious they just go to random streamers chat and try to get them in and make affeliate give them unwithdrawable money to play and try to bait as much viewers as possible. I know a few streamers with the same background story regarding Gamdom, didn't watched them since... 

[TommyBhoy]

Can someone at @Casinogrounds explain why they are allowing gamdom onto their clips?

The silence is deafening. Can @Nick @Skylined87 @LetsGiveItASpin clear this up?

Why are u allowing gamdom on your clips?

Gamdom requires no Kyc meaning kids can play there and allows ILLEGAL bypassing of country restrictions.

 

 

[StallCation]

On 11/06/2021 at 15:03, TommyBhoy said:

I genuinely believe the negativity caused by these guys will eventually make Youtube and Twitch ban any forms of gambling streams which will kill off the hard working genuine streamers.

Take Ayezee for example, this guy is betting millions and millions using sponsored money(He exclusively gambles at a crypto casino, he would need 100,000 depositors a week to play on their commission amounts).

The streaming world is now so out of touch with reality and its going to come crashing down.

Yup, it has now finally caught the attention of even Danish media. This article is in Danish, but adresses the problem of sponsored gambling, especially by gamers-gone-gamblers, because these guys often have a lot of <18 followers:  https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/kultur/gaming/gamer-blev-tilbudt-200000-i-timen-gamble-nu-raser-debatten-paa-twitch

[vanHooff]

^^ in the article a streamer named  "xQc" is mentioned, a gaming streamer that has promoted gambling but has recently stopped.

According to below link,
xQc also revealed that he got nearly 2000 people to use his referral link to join the site, with nearly 600 of those being first-timers when it comes to depositing money to play.

 https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/xqc-quits-gambling-twitch-streams-after-revealing-how-many-people-used-his-code-1603108/

[casio]

Yup, it has now finally caught the attention of even Danish media. This article is in Danish, but adresses the problem of sponsored gambling, especially by gamers-gone-gamblers, because these guys often have a lot of <18 followers: https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/kultur/gaming/gamer-blev-tilbudt-200000-i-timen-gamble-nu-raser-debatten-paa-twitch

[LetsTalkFacts]

Jaja it's time guys.. I just watched Jackebro @daskelelele and he is doing $500 a spin and has a 100k balance lmao! Since he left casinogrounds and joined Gamdom he starts looking like roshtein and the rest of the gang lol 😂 rip credibility 

[LetsTalkFacts]

Daskelele won over $220.000 again yesterday with a bonus buy... He keeps winning that 100k+ lately.. How is this even possible? He said he is up $600k last few months, since he's playing at Gamdom 🤔