Twitch Slots section?! Wake up?? Viewbots? Fake money?!

[TruthSeeker]

Hi fellow members of the community!

I've been mainly following and watching CasinoGrounds streamers but been also lurking around other streams as well. I do occasionally watch CasinoDaddy (Masse get the printer!) and others such as DavidLabowsky and Spintwix, etc. What I can't understand what's up with all these new instant-streamers popping up????!

Examples:

https://sullygnome.com/channel/casinomolive/365 - Notice anything in the followers? Huge fucking spike. Sigh, another person using viewbots.

https://sullygnome.com/channel/casinojolive/365 - This shit? Appeared just recently! Same fucking shit as above.

All these new so called SPAWNS and disgust of the streamers who lure the viewers with high bets like 20-50Euros per SPIN!!!

Has this become the fucking next norm? Why do viewers fall for it? I guess it's cause of viwebotting and not to mention the involved casinos giving bonus balances like its fucking Christmas. Looking at you,  Wildz Casino!!!

Then there's  shady casinos born out of Curacao shit licenses, N1, SlottyVegas and other bullshit names offering non-withdrawable funds or funds with limited cashouts. No casino would agree to such high-rollers and the massive cashouts they "appear" to have.

And there's the oldest and the most rotten of the streamers, Roshtein.

Let's check his stats! 

https://sullygnome.com/channel/roshtein/365 - 40k followers in a month? FOR REAL?

Let's dig a bit deeper, see how he compared year 2018:

https://sullygnome.com/channel/roshtein/2018 - Notice anything? Spikes in followers? like 5-10k per month? Nobody of LEGIT streamers in Slots section on Twitch has ever been able to do so, even the most successful ones like CasinoDaddy who stream nearly 24hrs/7days a week!

How about year 2017?

https://sullygnome.com/channel/roshtein/2017

Surprise surprise, you see the same patterns.

If you believe Roshtein's growth is for real then you're a plain bellend  and just don't care some streamers are taking shortcuts, promoting VERY irresponsible gambling such as 50euro bets (all of the above streamers) and they're clearly in it just to fake it till you make it and rake as much money as possible from unaware viewers.

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Now seeing the upper statistics, let's take for example one of the streamers that started from like  5-15 viewers, jamjarboy.

What do the stats say?

https://sullygnome.com/channel/jamjarboy/365

At around end of February, he joined the CG streamers. Since then it appears that it's working well for him. I do watch him occasionally and seems like a decent person and streams are kind of fun. You can see a follower trend of ~500 new follower per month. That's 10 times lower than any of the above mentioned streamers.

Another streamer I think that is quite fun is Letsgiveitaspin. Let's take a look at his stats:

https://sullygnome.com/channel/letsgiveitaspin/365 -  as you can see, the follower trend seems really consistent and keeping in mind he's one of the first ones to start the Casino/Slots section on stream - I'm surprised he doesn't have more followers. Very down to earth guy and enjoyable.

With all that being said, I'm not a full supporter of all CG streamers - I like most of them but I've seen that Daskelele recently joined who often showcases quite irresponsible gambling experience on 10+ euro bets.

Let's check his stats:

https://sullygnome.com/channel/daskelelele/365 - Hmm, a 10k follower gain in month? Let's dig bit deeper.

https://sullygnome.com/channel/daskelelele/2018 - This is for year 2018. Seems like he's been quite steady previous year but gaining lots of followers in linear scale. Could be that above is that someone viewbotted him (you'll notice a small spike in Letsgiveitaspin's follower trend as well recently). But also, his 100k Bonanza hit has spread around Twitch like wildfire.

And for the last, but not least - another "instant" product:

https://sullygnome.com/channel/classybeef/365 - Nice insta follower growth there???? Not being present on Twitch even for a year and already raking in those huge followers numbers. Shame!

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Bottom line?

It took me quite a bit to do the research who's playing dirty and who's not. Feel free to check the links and do your own research if you want on all of the above streamers or the streamers you might think that have been taking shortcuts. Statistics don't lie. It's time for us, the viewers to get PROPERLY informed on all things Slots section related and name and shame all the streamers and the casinos that indulge in such shady and immoral practices.

Watch their (and their mods) behavior on stream when you ask questions such as "is this real money", "are you using viewbots", etc. Most likely you'll get instantly banned. 

Let's expose and end this once and forever, name and shame!

[Slotspinner]

Yea mate, this is reality and all the legit streamers know it and despise this bullshit, there is just nothing we can do about it.

[Rexxor420]

I don't know how many Threads are here on CG about viewbots.. You should try and write an email about this to Twitch, very low chance anything will happen anyway

but here on CG nobody is working for Twitch so nothing will change no matter how many Threads will be made here.

[Slotspinner]

Just now, Rexxor420 said:

I don't know how many Threads are here on CG about viewbots.. You should try and write an email about this to Twitch, very low chance anything will happen anyway

but here on CG nobody is working for Twitch so nothing will change no matter how many Threads will be made here.

At least it brings awareness to people that these are completely Fake channels..

[Casinolandstreaming]

1 hour ago, Rexxor420 said:

I don't know how many Threads are here on CG about viewbots.. You should try and write an email about this to Twitch, very low chance anything will happen anyway

but here on CG nobody is working for Twitch so nothing will change no matter how many Threads will be made here.

 

With all sadness I must say that Twitch is completely useless when it comes to punishing the bad. 

[LetsGiveItASpin]

Very well written mate.

About my fluctuations lately I have in fact been followbotted (don't think viewbotted so far) a few times. What disgusts me about that is that the shady streamers are trying to bring us down to the same level.

[MitaaSpins]

woow this al new to me such a shame ! i only love the real streamers out there

[Spintwix]

Hey TruthSeeker,

Very good topic and very well presented, short and to the point.

This topic is raised a lot on my stream and I try to avoid it as it's taking too much focus from my stream.

Having said that I will say to those people who say this is just entertainment so I don't care if it's fake money or view bots this:
IT DOES MATTER, being lied to about the  money your are playing with and how you fund your stream DOES MATTER when it's a casino stream and you want to be responsible with what you present to your viewers, IT DOES MATTER if you show 10K viewers when you only have 100 because it's misleading and bringing more people to watch a distorted picture of gambling.
Being a "FAKE" streamer is taking advantage of people and their conception of what a online casino is and what is online gambling and the risk that is coming with it.

These streamers do not care about the players and care only about making money fast without any thought about the people behind the screen and what fake show like that can do.

Thank you for you post and have a great week :)

Spintwix 

[Xxxxwildingxxxx]

You just picked out daskelelele betting 10$ + it's not ok for deask you say but when other streamers do this you dont mention because you dont like and didnt have much to say about him you say this. Some of the streamers you mention had some very big host of Montana I dont see you me tion this if you doing a fair comparison  you should 

And we all doing it wrong blaming them we should be blaming the commission for licence who allow it if they but the laws in place twitch would have to address it and so would casino for fake me that's where the fix is the licence otherwise it will never stop

[Xxxxwildingxxxx]

For fake ******

[Slotspinner]

17 minutes ago, Xxxxwildingxxxx said:

You just picked out daskelelele betting 10$ + it's not ok for deask you say but when other streamers do this you dont mention because you dont like and didnt have much to say about him you say this. Some of the streamers you mention had some very big host of Montana I dont see you me tion this if you doing a fair comparison  you should 

And we all doing it wrong blaming them we should be blaming the commission for licence who allow it if they but the laws in place twitch would have to address it and so would casino for fake me that's where the fix is the licence otherwise it will never stop

????? Daske is not fucking botting!!

[Xxxxwildingxxxx]

What do you think in saying in reply to what that guy said 

2 minutes ago, Slotspinner said:

????? Daske is not fucking botting!!

I replied to what he said about desk but I should of quoted it I'm supporting desk here

[Slotspinner]

1 minute ago, Xxxxwildingxxxx said:

What do you think in saying in reply to what that guy said 

I replied to what he said about desk but I should of quoted it I'm supporting desk here

ah, its a little hard to sometimes read exactly out what you mean in a post sorry!

[dirtystack]

Hmm, read it again. I don't know.

[Xxxxwildingxxxx]

Yes because it a very long post my reply could be directed at anything on the long post but my replies was to the part of when he mentioned daskelele I didnt think he was being fair so I reply 

3 minutes ago, dirtystack said:

Hmm, read it again. I don't know.

What domt you know 

[MrVizah]

Im 99.9% sure daske have not viewbotted / follow botted him self atleast, and when it comes to hes bet sizes they have been high for a long time and he can afford it so i would not call it irresponsible gambling.

Many other streamers do higher bets too and on daskes streams bet size normaly is around 5€ at least when boys are playing.

But now we all try to behave ok

[Xxxxwildingxxxx]

Ok let's scrap what I said and explain better he mentions daskelele  for betting 10$ irresponsible he didnt have much to say about him so I believe this was his best to come up with. But it's not fair to day irresponsible  and only target daske for this when slot of other streamers mentioned in the post have done the same. But he direct it the word. Irresponsible  to dask only I was reply to truthseeker

I try to explain better but explain worse the fuck

[Xxxxwildingxxxx]

9 minutes ago, MrVizah said:

Im 99.9% sure daske have not viewbotted / follow botted him self atleast, and when it comes to hes bet sizes they have been high for a long time and he can afford it so i would not call it irresponsible gambling.

Many other streamers do higher bets too and on daskes streams bet size normaly is around 5€ at least when boys are playing.

But now we all try to behave ok

Yes captain LUL

[Xxxxwildingxxxx]

30 minutes ago, dirtystack said:

Hmm, read it again. I don't know.

You didnt say what you meant say I think you meant he is viewbotting and irresponsible 

[Rexxor420]

3 minutes ago, Xxxxwildingxxxx said:

You didnt say what you meant say I think you meant he is viewbotting and irresponsible 

You don't need to post 69 replies in a row in one Thread..you can't complain about viewbots while being a spambot.

[TheGreatOne]

I like it how you are pointing out Roshtein, and thinking it is fake by just looking at the numbers. August 18 was the day Roshtein got banned by accident by twitch. When you got banned, you 'lose' all your followers. It takes time to resync them all. The number of followers get stuck at a certain number for a while and after that the last followers resync, the 28k. 

Also the 4k new followers a day are very easy explainable. Just check if MontanaBlack88 hosted him... 

Amazing how people are focused on just numbers and think its all fake without doing any research from where does numbers are coming from. 

[Slotspinner]

5 minutes ago, TheGreatOne said:

I like it how you are pointing out Roshtein, and thinking it is fake by just looking at the numbers. August 18 was the day Roshtein got banned by accident by twitch. When you got banned, you 'lose' all your followers. It takes time to resync them all. The number of followers get stuck at a certain number for a while and after that the last followers resync, the 28k. 

Also the 4k new followers a day are very easy explainable. Just check if MontanaBlack88 hosted him... 

Amazing how people are focused on just numbers and think its all fake without doing any research from where does numbers are coming from. 

Discussing him is a lost cause, because theres only two scenarios:

1. He was never fake with anything
2. He faked everything long enough to become so successful that theres no need to fake anymore (fake it till you make it)

So imo, this is a lost cause to have arguments over

[Xxxxwildingxxxx]

1 hour ago, Rexxor420 said:

You don't need to post 69 replies in a row in one Thread..you can't complain about viewbots while being a spambot.

I'm not complaining about viewbots some have worked it out that I was support dask but you haven't read all the necessary  replies says the guy who post on every post having digs you

Be fair it was about 8breplies 

[dirtystack]

5 hours ago, Xxxxwildingxxxx said:

You didnt say what you meant say I think you meant he is viewbotting and irresponsible 

I didn't mean that at all. I don't even know who he is.

I just thought the initial post was using him as an example to show growing membership and an explanation of what increased his popularity. Having reread the initial post I see I might have been mistaken so I edited my post a nothingness post when I realised I didn't know what I was talking about.

Now, it is apparent to anyone that reads your post that you are generally, on the whole, resolutely mistaken about everything, apparent to everyone except you. Go learn how to think. Learn to punctuate your language so that the thoughts inside you head will end up punctuated and make some degree of sense to you. Must be a fucking rambling mess in your head.

[Xxxxwildingxxxx]

14 hours ago, dirtystack said:

I didn't mean that at all. I don't even know who he is.

I just thought the initial post was using him as an example to show growing membership and an explanation of what increased his popularity. Having reread the initial post I see I might have been mistaken so I edited my post a nothingness post when I realised I didn't know what I was talking about.

Now, it is apparent to anyone that reads your post that you are generally, on the whole, resolutely mistaken about everything, apparent to everyone except you. Go learn how to think. Learn to punctuate your language so that the thoughts inside you head will end up punctuated and make some degree of sense to you. Must be a fucking rambling mess in your head.

Ok so you going on a bit it must be a mess in your head to allow a forum to get to you like this and , it's great that your not my dad and I dont give a fuck what you say and honestly I wont be listening to you do one

It's not necessarily  to.hage good punctuation dirty stack has a very big problem and ca t stand it that my punctuation is bad ' he said I mistaken about every but i can tell you not on this punctuation he cant stand it