Xxxxwildingxxxx Posted 5 September, 2019 Share Posted 5 September, 2019 Think streamers should check total stake and return . For rtp and show realistic of what is expected and it would give us all a better idea that streamers lose at times to becuase there rtp will tell the full story wouldnt compare one but id compare 15 Link to comment
Slotspinner Posted 5 September, 2019 Share Posted 5 September, 2019 No provider would risk their entire business on a few more people playing their slots due to streamers. Link to comment
Xxxxwildingxxxx Posted 5 September, 2019 Author Share Posted 5 September, 2019 Casinos can set there players at what rtp they want its not necessarily providers depends on machine . And if its turns out that 28/30 streamrs have a more better avarage then an avarage wich i tink is the case. Then would you say coincidence. Just now, Xxxxwildingxxxx said: Casinos can set there players at what rtp they want its not necessarily providers depends on machine . And if its turns out that 28/30 streamrs have a more better avarage then an avarage wich i tink is the case. Then would you say coincidence. And here one where it will confim newrly almost if you check 18/20 special streams always hit massive on special streams i said to someone the other day watch the next special streams they will win big and 2 out of 3 special streams won big coincidence again if you go check theres a very high percentage of spcial streams winning now why is there special streams winning its becuase casino and peovieer watching . labowsky didnt win on his special but a very high percentage probs around 80% win massive on special streams says all i need to know Link to comment
Xxxxwildingxxxx Posted 5 September, 2019 Author Share Posted 5 September, 2019 And when you can guess a massive win incoming on a special streams wow thsts very good guessing when ive done this 7 times out of 10 Go check special streams and pary streams they shouldnt be any less or more wins than any oher stream right go check you will find there a very high increas on special streams the data dosnt lie i wonder why Link to comment
Xxxxwildingxxxx Posted 5 September, 2019 Author Share Posted 5 September, 2019 Party streams and special streams data doesn't lie i confident theres a spike increase on these streams but thee should be right And bare in mind you can make an exception for so many only untill it becomes obvious i think Link to comment
Xxxxwildingxxxx Posted 5 September, 2019 Author Share Posted 5 September, 2019 The reaso why it coule be not fair is i could be wrong here to But we check fake streams how fair was that judgment before they proved real Link to comment
Slotspinner Posted 5 September, 2019 Share Posted 5 September, 2019 wilding just forget it youre so wrong its insane Link to comment
BoracicLint Posted 5 September, 2019 Share Posted 5 September, 2019 I think you are arguing with yourself wilding. Streamers win big a lot because 1) They have a large bankroll and can absorb the losing runs the average players,like me,who only deposit £10-£20 at a time cannot absorb and 2) Most games have RTPs in the mid 90% range so a bigger bankroll gives you the opportunity to maximise this and take advantage of the good runs. Streamers also have lots of bad runs but,like I said earlier,can absorb the losing runs due to bigger bankrolls. Link to comment
Tussilago87 Posted 5 September, 2019 Share Posted 5 September, 2019 this is just stupid, it takes month´s from when a game is ready to launch to get approved by governments to even be able to release the game to the casinos. and when the game is at the casinos they cant do anything to change the RTP. the only thing is that the providers can release the slots on different RTP but everyone is playing at the same, and you can always check the RTP inside the game. Link to comment
Xxxxwildingxxxx Posted 5 September, 2019 Author Share Posted 5 September, 2019 Just now, Tussilago87 said: this is just stupid, it takes month´s from when a game is ready to launch to get approved by governments to even be able to release the game to the casinos. and when the game is at the casinos they cant do anything to change the RTP. the only thing is that the providers can release the slots on different RTP but everyone is playing at the same, and you can always check the RTP inside the game. 4 minutes ago, BoracicLint said: I think you are arguing with yourself wilding. Streamers win big a lot because 1) They have a large bankroll and can absorb the losing runs the average players,like me,who only deposit £10-£20 at a time cannot absorb and 2) Most games have RTPs in the mid 90% range so a bigger bankroll gives you the opportunity to maximise this and take advantage of the good runs. Streamers also have lots of bad runs but,like I said earlier,can absorb the losing runs due to bigger bankrolls. 5 minutes ago, BoracicLint said: I think you are arguing with yourself wilding. Streamers win big a lot because 1) They have a large bankroll and can absorb the losing runs the average players,like me,who only deposit £10-£20 at a time cannot absorb and 2) Most games have RTPs in the mid 90% range so a bigger bankroll gives you the opportunity to maximise this and take advantage of the good runs. Streamers also have lots of bad runs but,like I said earlier,can absorb the losing runs due to bigger bankrolls. If im arguing with my self your reply to who. And also do hey absorb the losses when 18 out of 20 special streams win massive where he absorbing then are you arguing with your opinions to your self Just now, Xxxxwildingxxxx said: If im arguing with my self your reply to who. And also do hey absorb the losses when 18 out of 20 special streams win massive where he absorbing then are you arguing with your opinions to your self Link to comment
BoracicLint Posted 5 September, 2019 Share Posted 5 September, 2019 Why are you multi quoting the same quotes over and over? Very strange behaviour. Link to comment
Xxxxwildingxxxx Posted 5 September, 2019 Author Share Posted 5 September, 2019 Do you not want to reply to your contraction Special streams a very high percent win big you mention absorb the losses i guess it was need for these streams boraciclint Link to comment
Tussilago87 Posted 5 September, 2019 Share Posted 5 September, 2019 well, cant discuss with tinfoil hats, if you want to know more about this you can go to youtube and search for how a slot is made, ( i think even letsgiveitaspin has this video when they went througt how DOA2 was made but not sure) there should be a video where you can see how certification is done and what is needed to even get to release a slot. Link to comment
Xxxxwildingxxxx Posted 5 September, 2019 Author Share Posted 5 September, 2019 Contraction 1 minute ago, Tussilago87 said: well, cant discuss with tinfoil hats, if you want to know more about this you can go to youtube and search for how a slot is made, ( i think even letsgiveitaspin has this video when they went througt how DOA2 was made but not sure) there should be a video where you can see how certification is done and what is needed to even get to release a slot. I here that saying in nicks stream ridiculous i should say Link to comment
Xxxxwildingxxxx Posted 5 September, 2019 Author Share Posted 5 September, 2019 8 minutes ago, Tussilago87 said: well, cant discuss with tinfoil hats, if you want to know more about this you can go to youtube and search for how a slot is made, ( i think even letsgiveitaspin has this video when they went througt how DOA2 was made but not sure) there should be a video where you can see how certification is done and what is needed to even get to release a slot. The one thing hat stands out and cant be explajned other than fixed is why do a very high percentage of party streams and special streams win big pwople say they have to absorb alot of money. To win big. But if we just talking about party stream and guest streams and special streams these should be any differnt on compared ratio. To the rest of the streams but theres a big increase of massive wins in party streams its a fact so if this is a fact is it a coincidence. Thst nearly all streamers have had massive wins on multiple special party streams and guest streams anyway . This is not bull s its facts that all but very high percentage so you say tin foil hats. Its nice to see give real facts i didnt know they could do this . What a stupid saying thst is tin foil hat Link to comment
BoracicLint Posted 5 September, 2019 Share Posted 5 September, 2019 40 minutes ago, Xxxxwildingxxxx said: The one thing hat stands out and cant be explajned other than fixed is why do a very high percentage of party streams and special streams win big pwople say they have to absorb alot of money. To win big. But if we just talking about party stream and guest streams and special streams these should be any differnt on compared ratio. To the rest of the streams but theres a big increase of massive wins in party streams its a fact so if this is a fact is it a coincidence. Thst nearly all streamers have had massive wins on multiple special party streams and guest streams anyway . This is not bull s its facts that all but very high percentage so you say tin foil hats. Its nice to see give real facts i didnt know they could do this . What a stupid saying thst is tin foil hat Have you lost a lot of money recently and are looking to vent your frustration somewhere as this is how your behaviour looks? Link to comment
tara_grill Posted 5 September, 2019 Share Posted 5 September, 2019 35 minutes ago, BoracicLint said: Have you lost a lot of money recently and are looking to vent your frustration somewhere as this is how your behaviour looks? My thoughts exactly. ? Link to comment
Skylined87 Posted 5 September, 2019 Share Posted 5 September, 2019 Before you jump on the "tinfoil hat theories", please read the article we have written on this topic: https://casinogrounds.com/guides/tinfoil-hat-theories/ Casinos can NOT change RTP for any player as it's illegal and against regulations. They also don't have tools to be able to do it anyway. RTP comes as a set thing from the slot providers after their slots go through all the testing and certifications. They offer casinos their slots mostly at RTP of 96-98% average. In some cases like Play'N'Go, they have few variations with one being as low as 86% (i think that's the correct number). Casinos then decide which slot with what RTP they will take - almost all of them take the highest one (one low RTP example is where Videoslots took 91% version of Play'N'Go slots - like Book Of Dead etc). So the bottom line here is: No, casinos cannot adjust/change RTP to streamers advantage. What streamers do get though, is a lot of bonuses which in the long run should be positive expected value given that most stream 4-7 days a week for several hours and do thousands or ten thousands or even hundred thousands of spins. And due to high amount of spins, of course they will most likely hit big. I hope that explains it. Link to comment
Xxxxwildingxxxx Posted 6 September, 2019 Author Share Posted 6 September, 2019 20 hours ago, tara_grill said: My thoughts exactly. ? Not the point here doesnt change what is plain to see Link to comment
Xxxxwildingxxxx Posted 6 September, 2019 Author Share Posted 6 September, 2019 21 hours ago, BoracicLint said: Have you lost a lot of money recently and are looking to vent your frustration somewhere as this is how your behaviour looks 22 hours ago, BoracicLint said: I think you are arguing with yourself wilding. Streamers win big a lot because 1) They have a large bankroll and can absorb the losing runs the average players,like me,who only deposit £10-£20 at a time cannot absorb and 2) Most games have RTPs in the mid 90% range so a bigger bankroll gives you the opportunity to maximise this and take advantage of the good runs. Streamers also have lots of bad runs but,like I said earlier,can absorb the losing runs due to bigger bankrolls. You can absorb losses for 2 weeks 1day ayear in fsdt rhe more hou play the more it will take from you you say streamers play alot well then hey must of leveled out a fair RTP hence played alot. But my point it has nothing to do with absorbed lossed thats why they win im talking about rtp and every streamer nearly in the 90% will have above the avarage rtp so your mentioning absorb rtp reaches its goal in the long run .but streamers are set oh and as we speak yesterday 30k win on reactoons another stream its so plain to see the absorb thing uour going on about doesnt affect rtp and on another special stream yeserday big wins again .and full screen owl on merlin slot. And ive also played for 12 years i have experience on what to expect and streamers dont play more than me so when i absorb my losses whre my big wins oh its differnt for general player like me ! 1 minute ago, Xxxxwildingxxxx said: You can absorb losses for 2 weeks 1day ayear in fsdt rhe more hou play the more it will take from you you say streamers play alot well then hey must of leveled out a fair RTP hence played alot. But my point it has nothing to do with absorbed lossed thats why they win im talking about rtp and every streamer nearly in the 90% will have above the avarage rtp so your mentioning absorb rtp reaches its goal in the long run .but streamers are set oh and as we speak yesterday 30k win on reactoons another stream its so plain to see the absorb thing uour going on about doesnt affect rtp and on another special stream yeserday big wins again .and full screen owl on merlin slot. And ive also played for 12 years i have experience on what to expect and streamers dont play more than me so when i absorb my losses whre my big wins oh its differnt for general player like me ! You can absorb losses for 2 weeks 1day ayear the more you play the more it will take from you you say streamers play alot well then hey must of leveled out a fair RTP hence played alot. But my point it has nothing to do with absorbed lossed thats why they win im talking about rtp and every streamer nearly in the 90% will have above the avarage rtp so your mentioning absorb rtp reaches its goal in the long run .but streamers are set oh and as we speak yesterday 30k win on reactoons another stream its so plain to see the absorb thing uour going on about doesnt affect rtp and on another special stream yeserday big wins again .and full screen owl on merlin slot. And ive also played for 12 years i have experience on what to expect and streamers dont play more than me so when i absorb my losses whre my big wins oh its differnt for general player like me ! You say they streamers win becuase they absorb losses. the longer you play the more you lose so that what you said falls flat on its face Link to comment
Xxxxwildingxxxx Posted 6 September, 2019 Author Share Posted 6 September, 2019 20 hours ago, Skylined87 said: Before you jump on the "tinfoil hat theories", please read the article we have written on this topic: https://casinogrounds.com/guides/tinfoil-hat-theories/ Casinos can NOT change RTP for any player as it's illegal and against regulations. They also don't have tools to be able to do it anyway. RTP comes as a set thing from the slot providers after their slots go through all the testing and certifications. They offer casinos their slots mostly at RTP of 96-98% average. In some cases like Play'N'Go, they have few variations with one being as low as 86% (i think that's the correct number). Casinos then decide which slot with what RTP they will take - almost all of them take the highest one (one low RTP example is where Videoslots took 91% version of Play'N'Go slots - like Book Of Dead etc). So the bottom line here is: No, casinos cannot adjust/change RTP to streamers advantage. What streamers do get though, is a lot of bonuses which in the long run should be positive expected value given that most stream 4-7 days a week for several hours and do thousands or ten thousands or even hundred thousands of spins. And due to high amount of spins, of course they will most likely hit big. I hope that explains it. No skyline have you seen the photo picture for that artical its just taking the piss out of people who have opinions you think thsts ok its tinfoil hat with w person who looks ill on the artical pull your self together and remove it its bs skyline that artical And also its only opinion i like all streamers and will watch kim is legend slotspinner great classy beef nick its just opinion that i cant whake off but i ,? and if wasnt ror this subject i dunno 3 minutes ago, Xxxxwildingxxxx said: No skyline have you seen the photo picture for that artical its just taking the piss out of people who have opinions you think thsts ok its tinfoil hat with w person who looks ill on the artical pull your self together and remove it its bs skyline that artical And also its only opinion i like all streamers and will watch kim is legend slotspinner great classy beef nick its just opinion that i cant whake off but i ,? and if wasnt ror this subject i dunno Shake of Link to comment
Xxxxwildingxxxx Posted 6 September, 2019 Author Share Posted 6 September, 2019 19 minutes ago, ErtiErtze said: Get help. For having an opinion !!! These days when you have an opinion that means you need help according to some people Link to comment
BoracicLint Posted 6 September, 2019 Share Posted 6 September, 2019 48 minutes ago, Xxxxwildingxxxx said: For having an opinion !!! These days when you have an opinion that means you need help according to some people You dont't have an opinion,you have an obsession. Link to comment
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