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I been keeping an eye on roshtein for a long time and i feel he is not being truthful about everything.

But now get real for a moment i did inspect the video frame by frame and i did notice he actually did click

on Real money mode befor going into fun money. How did this happen u ask ?

He fumbled around with his mouse and for just few frames before entering Practice play he clicked on Real money.

It goes by very fast and he is literlay geting on the earliest pixel u can click on where the hand is showing when changing to the arrow at the same spot which indicates he indeed did click on it

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20 minutes ago, Hemmy86 said:

I been keeping an eye on roshtein for a long time and i feel he is not being truthful about everything.

But now get real for a moment i did inspect the video frame by frame and i did notice he actually did click

on Real money mode befor going into fun money. How did this happen u ask ?

He fumbled around with his mouse and for just few frames before entering Practice play he clicked on Real money.

It goes by very fast and he is literlay geting on the earliest pixel u can click on where the hand is showing when changing to the arrow at the same spot which indicates he indeed did click on it

I slowed it down as slow as possible and it appeared to me first as well that he mighta clicked real.  But after slowing it down its 100% practice mode click.  I would know as I'm from LegendOfGambling

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30 minutes ago, Hemmy86 said:

I been keeping an eye on roshtein for a long time and i feel he is not being truthful about everything.

But now get real for a moment i did inspect the video frame by frame and i did notice he actually did click

on Real money mode befor going into fun money. How did this happen u ask ?

He fumbled around with his mouse and for just few frames before entering Practice play he clicked on Real money.

It goes by very fast and he is literlay geting on the earliest pixel u can click on where the hand is showing when changing to the arrow at the same spot which indicates he indeed did click on it

nah if you slow it down the click is on practise. also the reaction after? panic mode? if it was a mistake surely one would just repeat the process to show the actual practise mode. for me the whole reaction just reeks of something!

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15 minutes ago, bookthewin said:

I slowed it down as slow as possible and it appeared to me first as well that he mighta clicked real.  But after slowing it down its 100% practice mode click.  I would know as I'm from LegendOfGambling

He does indeed click on practice mode after  but befor that he clicks on Real money play i checked frame by frame in video editor.

I would try to recreate this but im self excluded from casino so i can't really test what would happen if u clicked on real play and when practice play right after just within few frames. I did test on practice moded but it loaded instant just 1 frame after clicking so it didn't tell me much

6 minutes ago, Slotspinner said:

nah if you slow it down the click is on practise. also the reaction after? panic mode? if it was a mistake surely one would just repeat the process to show the actual practise mode. for me the whole reaction just reeks of something!

I checked it in video editor frame by frame it can't be seen in slowmo causse it goes by very fast.

His behivor was a bit odd true but im just stating what i saw when i looked in the video editor and do wonder if he by clicking real money just frames befor practice mode took him to real money, not sure why he gave up on it after that is strange though

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@Hemmy86
If the click indeed is on real thatd just solve the whole thing, reaction is quite odd though.. and then later on the practise mode on Rise of merlin didnt work, on Top of that theres some random german viewbotting guy on twitch now promoting N1 on a bought twitch account with 50 euro bets too ... questionable casino that N1 thing!

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Its all very unclear what actually happen i would try to recreate it if i had a real money account there.

If it was not for that 1 frame click that i think is a click since it changed to arrow 1 frame after is what i actually whanted to test if real money mode loads instant or if there is a delay there like in the video, if it would load instant like practice mode does when there is nothing left to wonder about.

 

Random german guy promoting n1 u say lol, that is indeed a bit fishy

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2 hours ago, Hemmy86 said:

@Slotspinner

 

Its all very unclear what actually happen i would try to recreate it if i had a real money account there.

If it was not for that 1 frame click that i think is a click since it changed to arrow 1 frame after is what i actually whanted to test if real money mode loads instant or if there is a delay there like in the video, if it would load instant like practice mode does when there is nothing left to wonder about.

 

Random german guy promoting n1 u say lol, that is indeed a bit fishy

i did made account just to check, well after i went to practice mode it didnt show my real balance 

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54 minutes ago, desity2017 said:

i did made account just to check, well after i went to practice mode it didnt show my real balance 

Roshtein tried it later on again, and it showed his practice balance aswell while being logged on. Also the N1 tech support were unable to replicate the issue. I think it was just a weird glitch. 

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I actually saw it live, and as a developer, I just assumed it was an error. Bugs happen, and since the URL for the real and practice slot is the same there could be some code not getting executed correctly. I can't test N1 myself since I am from Denmark, but you could probably replicate it with a blocker. 

And if N1 is onto it as well, why would it have anything to do with his practice mode anyways? They could just give him the funds on his account and block withdrawals, it would even be less work.

N1 could potentially also have a special deal with Roshstein regarding withdrawals since he does seem like their main marketing source.

3-4% follower rate does seem suspicious compared to other casino streamers, but since Roshstein is placed so high on the top viewers list he does also acquire way more new viewers than the other streamers mentioned. If we look at https://legendofgambling.com/is-roshtein-using-bots-to-gain-followers/ - the followers on the 18th of August could be explained by the fact he was banned for a short period, that tends to screw with follower numbers. If you look at Socialblade or whatever else now, you'll see the numbers have been normalized.

If we compare Roshstein to other top tier streamers(10k+ viewers), you'll see that his follower rate is not uncommon, and you'll see follower rates exceeding that.

I watch Roshtein once in a while, but I would not really consider myself a fan. I just don't see any evidence that clearly proves anything, some things seem sketchy, but at the same time you can quickly come up with a reasonable explanation.

 

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That article about viewbotting is probably the worst article i've ever seen. No research at all. Twitch banned Roshtein by mistake. He got his account back within 30 minutes. But being banned makes you 'lose' all your followers. They need to resync, which takes times and it makes it look for people like they arent following anymore. He had 140k followers before the ban. The number after the ban was stuck on 112k for a while. But within an hour he was back at 140k. And i think thats where that number, 28k, is coming from. 

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6 minutes ago, dirtystack said:

You can't explain away how visibly flustered he got about it. 

I quite enjoy watching him now and then but, cmon, he is fake as fuck. 

He is amusing but he is acting, he is a fake smile, rehearsed, contrived. 

 

Wouldn't you be, if you tried to prove a point and it didn't work? 

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3 hours ago, DanishDaniel said:

Wouldn't you be, if you tried to prove a point and it didn't work? 

First thing I would do is repeat what I had done to see if it had the same result, which, of course, would be a bad idea if I was streaming and had a persistent freeplay balance floating about which I was passing off as real money.

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2 hours ago, dirtystack said:

First thing I would do is repeat what I had done to see if it had the same result, which, of course, would be a bad idea if I was streaming and had a persistent freeplay balance floating about which I was passing off as real money.

Like i said, he tried it again later on. 

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Why do people put so much emphasis on deposits? It proves zilch. Can't believe people think it's some god given proof of anything.

Look, if you and the casino you are playing in are teaming up with malicious intent, the casino can put up the money for you to play with in any platform you want.  You agree with the casino on this arrangement beforehand. Win/lose, it isn't your money.  You keep the affiliate money. Besides that affiliate money, other than your spent time THERE IS NO INVESTMENT OF ANY KIND FOR YOU.

Besides, is this actually a serious discussion? Are we pretending that it's an actual discussion item that some clown isn't digging a 500k hole a month out of his own pocket streaming casino with 50€ spins on the regular, while posting afflinks and links so you can buy his goddamn coffee mug? I mean goddamn. I understand if you feel he is entertaining and all but seriously? Can't believe some of you people.

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1 minute ago, asmeister said:

Why do people put so much emphasis on deposits? It proves zilch. Can't believe people think it's some god given proof of anything.

Look, if you and the casino you are playing in are teaming up with malicious intent, the casino can put up the money for you to play with in any platform you want.  You agree with the casino on this arrangement beforehand. Win/lose, it isn't your money.  You keep the affiliate money. Besides that affiliate money, other than your spent time THERE IS NO INVESTMENT OF ANY KIND FOR YOU.

Besides, is this actually a serious discussion? Are we pretending that it's an actual discussion item that some clown isn't digging a 500k hole a month out of his own pocket streaming casino with 50€ spins on the regular, while posting afflinks and links so you can buy his goddamn coffee mug? I mean goddamn. I understand if you feel he is entertaining and all but seriously? Can't believe some of you people.

There is no way he is digging 500k out of his pocket a month. He is profiting due to the incredible bonus he is receiving. He does 2k deposits and get's 8k bonus.

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Just now, DanishDaniel said:

There is no way he is digging 500k out of his pocket a month. He is profiting due to the incredible bonus he is receiving. He does 2k deposits and get's 8k bonus.

there's little way he is digging anything out of his pocket. Look, if you enjoy watching the guy that's all fine and dandy, I'm not here to judge that.

 

That dude is fake as hell, and to me it's always been pretty incredible that anyone would believe otherwise.

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Just now, asmeister said:

there's little way he is digging anything out of his pocket. Look, if you enjoy watching the guy that's all fine and dandy, I'm not here to judge that.

 

That dude is fake as hell, and to me it's always been pretty incredible that anyone would believe otherwise.

If it's so obvious, I just don't see why there isn't one good evidence proving it?

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If you want to be a cultist like person that believes in faerie magic and some guy being a philantropic gambling millionaire posting afflinks and e-shops with his printed coffee mugs you just go right ahead

 

to be honest this "discussion" is so dumb I feel shame in participating, it really is the equivalent of talking to an elvis death conspiracy theorist

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24 minutes ago, asmeister said:

If you want to be a cultist like person that believes in faerie magic and some guy being a philantropic gambling millionaire posting afflinks and e-shops with his printed coffee mugs you just go right ahead

 

to be honest this "discussion" is so dumb I feel shame in participating, it really is the equivalent of talking to an elvis death conspiracy theorist

You keep talking down to me, instead of just proving that you're right, why?

If you do the math, he is profiting long term on gambling due to his bonuses. What's suspicious here is that he can get such bonuses, something is sketchy about N1 more than Roshstein. It doesn' t seem like an honest site.

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14 hours ago, DanishDaniel said:

You keep talking down to me, instead of just proving that you're right, why?

If you do the math, he is profiting long term on gambling due to his bonuses. What's suspicious here is that he can get such bonuses, something is sketchy about N1 more than Roshstein. It doesn' t seem like an honest site.

You are saying" It doesn' t seem like an honest site." Still they give Rosh these bonuses and he accepts them, why would they do that? Do you think all players can get those bonuses? How's your math? ;)  Some banter here, take this the right way, but I wanted to make a point. Dodgy casinos doesn't give money away like that, it's the other way around really.

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1 hour ago, the_68 said:

You are saying" It doesn' t seem like an honest site." Still they give Rosh these bonuses and he accepts them, why would they do that? Do you think all players can get those bonuses? How's your math? ;)  Some banter here, take this the right way, but I wanted to make a point. Dodgy casinos doesn't give money away like that, it's the other way around really.

Yeah? If they have a good relationship with Roshtein and their other streamers, they will talk positively about them and get them, new players.

If they are either rigging their games or refusing withdrawals for other players, it won't directly affect the streamers. 

It seems like they are doing something to improve the RTP for their advantage, allowing them to spend more money on customer acquisition than other casino's.

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51 minutes ago, DanishDaniel said:

Yeah? If they have a good relationship with Roshtein and their other streamers, they will talk positively about them and get them, new players.

If they are either rigging their games or refusing withdrawals for other players, it won't directly affect the streamers. 

It seems like they are doing something to improve the RTP for their advantage, allowing them to spend more money on customer acquisition than other casino's.

If you agree to those terms, I say if, then your are as sketchy as the casinos providing these bonuses, or free money.  

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 If he makes real money using fake money then he's probably smarter than most casinostreamers out there. Nothing wrong with it imo. He just does the exact same as everyone else in this stupid business - using the casino's money to generate even more money for both - the casino and the streamer. 

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