frankylee Posted 6 December, 2016 Share Posted 6 December, 2016 You can see which streamers that are playing with free/fake money pretty easily. The reactions, the insane balances and their crazy bets is not authentic. I mean, it's harmful for the community but in the end people will see through it and stop watching them. And my honest opinion is that it's NOT fun too watch a streamer with 5-50k EURO balance betting insane amounts because it gets so unreal and most of us can't relate to that kind of money in gambling. It is more fun too watch REAL streamers like Kim, Nick & Slotsspinner betting HIGH amounts sometime because the amounts are not crazy high and unrealistic. And most of us can relate to bet a 3-5 euro bet. The problem is the small-balance-fakers, how do we see through them? If you are not playing for your own money (or atleast with some of your real money and a bonus) then you shouldn't be streaming at all. Because that gets misleading for the viewers. Thats just my opinon. Ban the fakers and prospect! Link to comment
hellakytta Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Roshtein and other multilotto streamers definately fake as hell, would never watch those. Link to comment
Lokus Posted 25 January, 2017 Share Posted 25 January, 2017 I can understand your point of view , dont know if i seen fake streamers. But this post is a bit strange. What is real and What is fake? The fake streamers play slots, if they get payed as u claim from a casino for showcasing that casino putting in hours to stream, why shouldnt they get payed for working? Seems to me they got hell of a better deal then you? Not risking there own money and getting payed seems like the best deal ever. After Reading some posts on different forums here at casinogrounds people here are convinced that the casino themself cant influence the outcome of the game, according to the people with theory and conviction its the game provider that controls the outcome. So in otherwords they have the same chance as you to win? To boil it all down, you shouldnt bash the streamers but the casinos. Fake streamers are a bad way of putting it. You get payed from Twitch , youtube, ? And how do we dont know you are getting payed from casumo directly ? Problems with trust is when people are affiliated over all. For me i dont care if you play with your own money "wich im guessing coming from twitch, youtube, casumo, hard work, and luck" or a guy who hets his money from casino directly and play with "fake" money in the end it for me boils down to the same fact, you both get payed to press a button to get more players to whatever casino you represent. Im not affiliated with any casino, but im "VIP" with many sites for whatever thats worth. And as i mentioned in another post im intriged over the wins the streamers are making. I play alot and by that i mean alot, but the hits some streamers do week after week amazes me. So for me the fisk for you all is to make money if u bet your own money or with bonus money or with fake money doesnt really bother me. For me the chances that Kim gets saved 4xtimes from book of dead is in my books unrealistic. But im still happy for him and wouldnt call him a fake streamer. Even if we cant be sure hes getting monthly payment or not" i hope u get that and that its good" this is just My personal opinion feel free to bash:) Link to comment
Slotspinner Posted 25 January, 2017 Share Posted 25 January, 2017 2 hours ago, Lokus said: The fake streamers play slots, if they get payed as u claim from a casino for showcasing that casino putting in hours to stream, why shouldnt they get payed for working? Seems to me they got hell of a better deal then you? Not risking there own money and getting payed seems like the best deal ever. You think its okay to lie to all of your viewers about playing real money when you're not, while telling them to go and deposit their money on his links? Is that what you think is "a better deal" or "best deal ever" ? Link to comment
Beenji Posted 25 January, 2017 Share Posted 25 January, 2017 Have to agree with @slotspinner , they're basically making money of a lie Link to comment
Lokus Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 And in What world doesnt "the real streamers" do? Make money with there links" and special offers" and twitch and youtube" have i seen your bankstatements proving your not getting monthly payments from the casino you represent? when it comes to make money on a lie real or fake streamers both make money on a well built lie , the fraud of making Quick money from gambling is a huge lie. Link to comment
Beenji Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 I don't see the problem with this. None of the streamers I watch tries to make people think that they are gonna make a shitload of money on gambling, and let's take letsgiveitaspin as an example, he's promoting leovegas, I've heard him multiple times on stream saying that all in all he is not in profit on leovegas. So he's honest about the fact that you're probably not gonna profit on gambling, and yes, he probably get's a cut of the people that registers through his link's, and what do we get in return? Better signup deals, win win situation for both parts, I'm happy to support the streamers I watch by registering with their links. And it's totally up to you, don't want to support the streamer? Don't want to get a better signup deal? Ok, then dont register through their links, simple as that. Link to comment
Lokus Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 Would be intresting to ser hes overall -+ balance since he does made some bigger withdrawls and hes own money is like ususlly 2500kr match bonus on top. If he looses offstream its hes choice but hes streams must be close to +- 0 wich is remarkable good. Not to say impossible for most of us. Link to comment
Slotplayer Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 4 hours ago, Lokus said: And in What world doesnt "the real streamers" do? Make money with there links" and special offers" and twitch and youtube" have i seen your bankstatements proving your not getting monthly payments from the casino you represent? when it comes to make money on a lie real or fake streamers both make money on a well built lie , the fraud of making Quick money from gambling is a huge lie. The difference is that the genuine streamer risks their own money (with or without special offers) to get affiliate monies whilst the fake streamer doesn't. That is besides the point of the ethics of a casino allowing or even instigating it. I stream with real money and have an affiliate link. If I were to do this stuff for a living, some months there would be no bread on the table. Link to comment
Lokus Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 True , but isnt that your own choice ?to gamble with your own money? And the ethically thing isnt that crap either u fake stream or " real" stream, to get people hooked on gambling to your affiliate casino ? Link to comment
Slotplayer Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 4 minutes ago, Lokus said: True , but isnt that your own choice ?to gamble with your own money? And the ethically thing isnt that crap either u fake stream or " real" stream, to get people hooked on gambling to your affiliate casino ? I primarily stream to show my slot play and any affiliate revenues (which vary from month to month and are never guaranteed) help me to continue that play. As I said, I would not be able to make a living off the back of it, hence I have a good paying job and see this streaming malarkey as a hobby. Each and every viewer watching is (or rather is supposed to be as my stream is marked as 18+) an adult and can therefore make an adult decision to decide to sign up at the casino that I happen to stream at. Casinos have responsible gambling tools available to control the spend on this hobby or even to take a break from this hobby for a period of time. Link to comment
Beenji Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 The thing about the fake streamers especially the multilotto streamers is that they always have a huge balance and do really high bets, often this causes more entertainment value so people will watch them instead of watching people that spends their own money that they actually worked for, and then they sit there and lie about it all being real money when the truth is it's not, I just think it's wrong. And if they manage to profit when doing these huge bet's I think it gives people a wrong image about gambling in general, and it's all based of a lie, why would you support people that lie to you Link to comment
Subthiele Posted 28 January, 2017 Share Posted 28 January, 2017 Fake streamers rip der vieuwers, Real money streamers rip them self Link to comment
TwitchcasinoReg Posted 15 February, 2017 Share Posted 15 February, 2017 Dooh.. Just watch Roshteins latest vod on youtube and you see clearly that he is showing the cashout ON STREAM of 10k€ He also showed his REAL NAME! So you trolls that yells FAKE, just stop it I'm not a big fan of MultiLotto either, but i like Roshtein Link to comment
thehowlingswede1337 Posted 12 April, 2017 Share Posted 12 April, 2017 Well written Nickboy! Link to comment
VersoPlays Posted 29 June, 2017 Share Posted 29 June, 2017 On 2/15/2017 at 2:09 AM, TwitchcasinoReg said: Dooh.. Just watch Roshteins latest vod on youtube and you see clearly that he is showing the cashout ON STREAM of 10k€ He also showed his REAL NAME! So you trolls that yells FAKE, just stop it I'm not a big fan of MultiLotto either, but i like Roshtein I want to see that money in his bank account before I believe anything that fake twat 'shows' anyone! Link to comment
VersoPlays Posted 29 June, 2017 Share Posted 29 June, 2017 On 1/26/2017 at 3:16 PM, Lokus said: True , but isnt that your own choice ?to gamble with your own money? And the ethically thing isnt that crap either u fake stream or " real" stream, to get people hooked on gambling to your affiliate casino ? Slot streamers main goal is to entertain its viewers...not to get them hooked on slots! If you have been into any decent slots streamers streams you will see that when someone mentions their gambling addiction or mentions losing a lot of money the streamer ALWAYS tells them to stop or offers them genuine help in whispers....it's the scamming streamers like Rohstein that couldn't care less about his viewers wellbeing. (Casino daddy, and Chipmonkzslots are also both under the genuine streamers category) Link to comment
Nick Posted 30 June, 2017 Author Share Posted 30 June, 2017 36 minutes ago, benq4242 said: Slot streamers main goal is to entertain its viewers,thats total bull there doing it to make money.i dont know who is fake any more .watched a streamer few days ago streaming for a casino that i play on and when you have a cash out to your debit/credit card you get charged 2.5% .and i have double checked this with casino and told thats for everyone.yet when this streamer had cash out live on stream there was no charge for withdraw to his debit/credit card.makes me think something is wrong very wrong.and yes he is a streamer on here before any one askes I take it you're talking about me? Being a streamer and VIP ie high depositor means i have all deposit and withdrawal charges removed ie at Calzone, Ikibu and Rizk. Link to comment
Nick Posted 1 July, 2017 Author Share Posted 1 July, 2017 10 hours ago, benq4242 said: no not you, do you stream slots then <3 Link to comment
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