should this be possible? jammin jars

[BTGKinG]

someone send me this clip, of two different streamers winning identical wins in jammin jars just with different bet size.

I was just currious what are the oods of that happening within that short time after the slot being released? @Push Gaming

 

[Skylined87]

Wow that is indeed interesting. Would love to hear more  

[dirtystack]

My speculation.

 

They were each sent their own unique big win footage to react too.

The promo guys didn't make it unique enough.

 

Cynical

 

[OnlyASpin]

Something dodgy, this slot is predetermined with the jars then with set patterns

[Nicola]

Very suspcious as it's meant to be random .

[Slotspinner]

12 hours ago, dirtystack said:

My speculation.

 

They were each sent their own unique big win footage to react too.

The promo guys didn't make it unique enough.

 

Cynical

 

can this utter bs stop already do you really REALLY believe that

[JollyBhoyJohn7]

1 hour ago, Slotspinner said:

can this utter bs stop already do you really REALLY believe that

Doesn't help any when videos like this appear.  Not saying they got a set up to react to, but that certainly wasn't random.

[Lookslikewukong]

12 minutes ago, JollyBhoyJohn7 said:

Doesn't help any when videos like this appear.  Not saying they got a set up to react to, but that certainly wasn't random.

I agree, anyone from push gaming here ?

[dirtystack]

Maybe the rng of the game picks that on this spin you will win xxx times your stake when you press spin and then it has to display some graphics which correlate to you winning that amount.

I guess its pretty complicated in a game like Jammin jars with 4 wilds jumping about so it has less and less possible patterns to display the higher the xxx amount gets.

Curious to compare other big wins in that game, maybe every 2056x win looks like every other 2056x win, or one of a few layouts that = 2056x.

[scottiebhoy]

14 minutes ago, JollyBhoyJohn7 said:

Doesn't help any when videos like this appear.  Not saying they got a set up to react to, but that certainly wasn't random.

This whole thing is very suspicious definitely. 

[Slotspinner]

1 hour ago, JollyBhoyJohn7 said:

Doesn't help any when videos like this appear.  Not saying they got a set up to react to, but that certainly wasn't random.

From what i think how slots work, you press spin, the RNG gives you a certain number which has a win-size behind it , and they happened to get the same win amount (sounds extremely unlikely still..) But even with that a slot usually displays the graphics different , this is really weird stuff here indeed.

But then again i can assure you slot providers dont rig games for streamers, if that was actually true i would be mind-blown over the mount everest..Still curious to see what Push Gaming says! I want an explanation of this too.

 

[Spajek]

Woo that really strange and cripppy ? 

[Microsoftly]

Wow, this is very weird indeed. Since it should be absolutely random.. Wonder what Push Gaming can say about this. 

[Andreas]

It looks strange indeed - we've reached out to them and hoping they can explain the mechanics about the game  We'll update.

[ryans_slots]

so 2 people can't have the same win? 

guys come on anyone who think its rigged for streamers u must be stupid, biased or just utterly Jealous that they can afford deposits and spin more than you can.

also if it was rigged for streamers do you not think 4 + 6 euro bet size would be too small?

[JollyBhoyJohn7]

14 minutes ago, themagics92 said:

so 2 people can't have the same win? 

guys come on anyone who think its rigged for streamers u must be stupid, biased or just utterly Jealous that they can afford deposits and spin more than you can.

also if it was rigged for streamers do you not think 4 + 6 euro bet size would be too small?

Did you even watch the video? of course it's weird that they have the exact same win and the exact same layout of the tiles..........

Only one person claimed it was rigged for streamers and I think he was trolling, that's not the point here.

 

[pineapple]

@themagics92 Do you not think that the casino can rig the slots for streamers ?

[chryme187]

Another perfect example of slots being random of course 

[Slotspinner]

17 minutes ago, chryme187 said:

Another perfect example of slots being random of course 

this doesnt even mean its not random, the graphics are displaying what win the RNG you hit gives you..

[wahnfried]

I dont think the providers or casinos would rigg slots for streamers but if the slots work that way that only a "film" is pikked from a number of "films", and not every combination of symbols is possible, they could do it easy - as the provider and the casino both know who is playing.

And i clearly thought that every symbol is choosen randomly - maybe higher symbols with a lesser percentage. If that slots only play randomly choosen films i could play scratchcards. 

In my opinion the rng should decide on what symbol each reel will stop, and not what "film" will be showed. As i now know i ll not play those slots anymore. Its the same with predetermed pick and win bonusses. If it is described in the description its ok for me - but not this way.

[chryme187]

@Slotspinner you know exactly how low to almost Impossible the odds of this happening are its like 2 people winning lottery who live next to each other same building Not only that the win is that huge it happend to two of the bigger streamers on twitch there are only a handful of them as you know so its even more impossible

[Skylined87]

I'm quite sure there's a reasonable explanation for it - be it that they set reels for certain wins or something similar. 

Slots are running from 94-97% RTP, there is absolutely no reason to "rigg" them - it would cost a provider their license and would most likely go bankrupt.

So from reasonable perspective, why would you do it if it can cost you losing your company? RTP is there for a reason - to earn casinos and providers money.

[chryme187]

@Skylined87 what do you Think about my last answer to slotspinner explain that of course you gonna defend the Casinos you earn Money trough them or atleast your buisness Partners 

[wahnfried]

There are 8 x 8 fields on that slot - with at least 5 different fruitsymbols. The number of possible combination without jars is 5^64 oder 5.4210109e+44 , a number so big you cant even imagine or have a name for it for the first screen alone - and even the following symbols are exactly the same - no way this is random.

[Skylined87]

5 minutes ago, chryme187 said:

@Skylined87 what do you Think about my last answer to slotspinner explain that of course you gonna defend the Casinos you earn Money trough them or atleast your buisness Partners 

I'm not defending anyone. From my understanding how slots work, I wrote my own opinion on it. We did however ask Push Gaming to step in and clarify how this could've happened as I'm interested as well. 

But honestly - would YOU risk your company if you were a slot provider to "rigg" slots for the streamers? I know I wouldn't  The income from that 6-3% difference of RTP is bringing in enough money, otherwise casinos and slot providers would've been long gone.

And on top of that - it's not even Casino's fault - it's the providers. Same as the dreamcatcher topic. Casino has absolutely NO control on the outcome of the slots, they merely just provide "front-end" for slots from providers. They can do it directly or through platform such as SG Digital (where the platform has deal with multiple slot providers so it's easier for casinos to offer larger variety of games).