Guest Posted 7 February, 2019 Share Posted 7 February, 2019 Bonanza and WWTBAM are two of the biggest balance killing games out there now. What has changed? These used to be two of the best. Quote Link to comment
mafiukas Posted 7 February, 2019 Share Posted 7 February, 2019 Got this about 2 weeks ago. Played this game 2 eur spin. Sometimes this game is really good. But the wins are not very frequent. Quote Link to comment
Yug0Slavish Posted 7 February, 2019 Share Posted 7 February, 2019 Why do people think that if a feature/bonus is hard to get, that it's going to pay massive? It does not work that way, in order for bonuses to pay big there has to be bad bonuses, otherwise if all bonuses would pay massive there would not be any wins in the base game, all the RTP would be in the bonuses. Just because a provider makes volatile slots does not mean that all the slots in their lineup are crazy volatile. I would say that Wild Swarm is low/medium volatile. And yes I have played it myself, have had a couple of hundreds x wins in both base game/feature/freespins. Have popped the hive twice, no monster wins but both were around 150x. Makes me think of when Immortal Romance was new, all the hype with the Wild Desire made me want to get a Wild Desire, I think I made around 2000 spins before getting it, I remember I lost many deposits chasing the damn thing, when I finally got it, it paid 0X. Quote Link to comment
Conned247 Posted 19 March, 2019 Share Posted 19 March, 2019 Just been playing on Wild Swarm, thought I was doing okay when I got to Max swarm, thought yeah I am almost there bitch, gonna win me some big money. Mother fuckin nigh on 200 bees have gone in the god damn hive and nothing. I’m down nearly a monkey. I even resorted to measuring the size of the bees goin in the hive and there’s no fuckin way nigh on 200 bees would fit in the cunt. What a a waste of time. 1 Quote Link to comment
Conned247 Posted 19 March, 2019 Share Posted 19 March, 2019 Over 2500 spins on max hive, over 200 bees and still nothing. If it’s any compensation I just got the feature and won 8 fuckin pence, no joke........ 8 FUCKIN PENCE Quote Link to comment
Modnationx Posted 23 April, 2019 Share Posted 23 April, 2019 (edited) @Push Gaming I enjoy the game, I don't see why people are complaning, i don't mind it being 50 spins or 500 spins after max level, it adds some action to it, and considering outaide the bonus it has huge potential, i won 820€ just from the mystery box alone with the multiplayer in same run! Imagine if it was 25spins n u get the swarm guys, u bet with lowest bet size and then u max the bet, the casino would lose big time if the spins was less then 50/100 Edited 23 April, 2019 by Modnationx 1 Quote Link to comment
SwallRatchet Posted 23 April, 2019 Share Posted 23 April, 2019 I don't really like investment games myself cause if I run out of balance then I'm just gonna stick more in just to see that bonus on the off chance that it pays the big boy bucks Quote Link to comment
Modnationx Posted 25 April, 2019 Share Posted 25 April, 2019 On 24/04/2019 at 00:13, SwallRatchet said: I don't really like investment games myself cause if I run out of balance then I'm just gonna stick more in just to see that bonus on the off chance that it pays the big boy bucks I love investment games since i win more on them more then others Quote Link to comment
wertygo Posted 1 August, 2019 Share Posted 1 August, 2019 On 06/07/2018 at 16:42, Push Gaming said: @fraudmaud Hi Fraudmaud, Thanks for the feedback on our game, we are sorry that you didn't enjoy it as much as we had hoped. We understand the concerns you have raised about the swarm mode being difficult to achieve however this has to be the case for us to offer the level of payouts which we do when it is reached. The math has been certified and has an RTP of 97.03. Now obviously with these kinds of games, the nature of probability comes into play and some players will achieve the swarm mode faster than others. We again are sorry you didn't enjoy this release from us and we know that its not always possible to please everybody but hopefully this explanation has answered some of your concerns and hopefully you will be able to enjoy the game as on the whole it has been a huge hit with large numbers of our customers. What the heck does "partner cashier error" mean!!!!!???? Game crashes after couple minutes of play (had this like 20 times already). both on pc and mobile. And game plays out of the ordinary. No boxes or bonuses for who knows how long. And don't take it as a whining because I don't win - problems started after the first error message and reloading the game. I'm playing on @Leovegas. Problem is clearly on your and casinos end Quote Link to comment
wertygo Posted 1 August, 2019 Share Posted 1 August, 2019 On 17/10/2018 at 07:57, Big Time Gaming official said: This is well documented on here and other forums, what you see is what you get with Extra Chilli - the first gamble is 50/50 and the rest are 60/40 odds on (in your favour). Seems legit. Lost 23 times in a row. Guess it's 1 in a million chance that it went so bad....wait.....it's more like 1 from bazillion Quote Link to comment
Olppa Posted 16 April, 2020 Share Posted 16 April, 2020 yeppp. DO NOT!!! i played till swarm mode. 0,40e and shit load of spins till level 5, and after taht i took 70bees. that means even MORE spins... and i spent at least like 500e to get there... and guess what... goddamn 90e ant thank u - play again. faaaak that. Quote Link to comment
Alexs Posted 22 April, 2020 Share Posted 22 April, 2020 AVOID THE GAME!!! took me £120 on 20p to reach level 5.... I'm now £600 down on £1 spins trying to pop the hive. Im calling it quits, going to do 60p now. Did have an 84x base game Wooo. Quote Link to comment
Alexs Posted 22 April, 2020 Share Posted 22 April, 2020 1 hour ago, Alexs said: AVOID THE GAME!!! took me £120 on 20p to reach level 5.... I'm now £600 down on £1 spins trying to pop the hive. Im calling it quits, going to do 60p now. Did have an 84x base game Wooo. Now down £1100 currently doing 40p at what point do I totally give up... Might do 50 more and throw up every time I see it again... Quote Link to comment
robbus69 Posted 18 January, 2021 Share Posted 18 January, 2021 I think good advice of the op. A bit late for me as I'm still in the struggle to get to level 5 on EUR 0,20 and 0,40 bets. Luckily not on higher bets, as I had experience with this build up games from the past.... I was a bit lucky with some good base game hits, some free spins from the boxes, so actually my balance isn't dented that much. I played other games in between so hard to tell what is the P&L so far but I guess it's not more than EUR 25 loss. Maybe even close to BE. Soon I will hit level 5. Maybe keep track of statistics from then on..... Will post an update here.... Quote Link to comment
robbus69 Posted 18 January, 2021 Share Posted 18 January, 2021 5 hours ago, robbus69 said: Soon I will hit level 5. Maybe keep track of statistics from then on..... Will post an update here.... So I hit level 5 soon after that.. Here's some statistics after I hit level 5. Starting balance at hitting level 5: 762,54 Then I played 5x50 spins on EUR 0,20: 50@0,20 1 bee 1free spins (10x) 50@0,20 1 bee 1box (3x) 50@0,20 2 bees 50@0,20 1 bee 2fs (10x & 25x) 50@0,20 1 bee 740,39 closing balance after 250 spins @ 0,20. So that's a loss of EUR 22 over 250 spins. The spins itself costed me EUR 50 of my balance. I won EUR 28 in those spins. So that's the net loss of EUR 22. Then I upped up the bit to the next level with another 5x50 spins @ 0,40. 50@0,40 1 bee 1 free spins (14x) 50@0,40 4 bees 50@0,40 2 bees 50@0,40 4 bees 50@0,40 xxx (no bees, no boxes, no free spins) 679,29 closing balance after 500 spins @ 0,30 average. That's a loss of over EUR 60 on 250 spins. The spins itself costed me EUR 100 of my balance. I won EUR 40 in those spins. So that's the loss of EUR 60. So this statistical experiment costed me EUR 150 of my balance in spin costs. And I won EUR 68 in those spins. A net loss of EUR 82. It doesn't make sense to calculate RTP over as little as 500 spins. It's way too little to be statistically relevant. But it's way too low still Back on topic! I spend 500 spins and in those spins I managed to get a whopping 17 bees. That's nearly 30 spins to get 1 single bee. And NO, I didn't get the Swarm mode activated yet. Some cracks in the hyve and an occasional wiggle, but still as dead as can be. So for the sake of statistics I will keep playing till I get this Swarm mode activated and update the statistics. Let's see how many spins it will take. Place your bets in the comments Quote Link to comment
robbus69 Posted 19 January, 2021 Share Posted 19 January, 2021 13 hours ago, robbus69 said: So for the sake of statistics I will keep playing till I get this Swarm mode activated and update the statistics. So here we go! After these spins: 100@0,20 4 bees 100@0,40 6 bees 1 box (6x) 100@0,60 5 bees 3 boxes (30x 25x 5x) 1 free spins (8x) 100@1.00 3 bees 4 boxes (6x 5x 150x10x 1 free spins (11x) 100@0,40 5 bees 25@0,60 2 bees 1 box (8fs 61x) I finally hit the Swarm mode! These last 525 spins cost me EUR 275 to make. As I was lucky with a 150x hit on EUR 1 bet resulting in a total spins win of EUR 290. So a net profit of EUR 15 on those 525 spins. Swarm mode paid me exactly 100x @0,60 so that's quite disappointing for the main very visual super feature. So the final stats to get the Swarm mode after Max level was achieved are: 1025 Spins (@ different bet levels of 0,20-0,40-0,60-1,00) 42 bees. (1 bee per 25 spins.) EUR 425 spin costs. (average spin bet of EUR 0.42) EUR 67 net loss after my winnings. EUR 60 (100x @0,60) winnings of the Swarm Mode 10 free spins. Final balance: EUR 7 loss. Closing thoughts: I was lucky with a box hit of 150x@1,00 and just before I hit Swarm mode I got another 61x@0,60 box hit with 8 free spins. Quote Link to comment
robbus69 Posted 19 January, 2021 Share Posted 19 January, 2021 15 minutes ago, robbus69 said: Closing thoughts: I was lucky with a box hit of 150x@1,00 and just before I hit Swarm mode I got another 61x@0,60 box hit with 8 free spins. Crazy that the biggest hit wasn't even the highly anticipated Swarm mode, but just a box giving me 150x. The 100x of Swarm mode was a little disappointing. Considering it took me at least a 1000 spins to get at max level first. Then another 1000 spins to get the actual Swarm mode. I was lucky I played @0,60 and not at 0,20 when I hit it. Many, many other slots where you will play 2000+ spins will give you so much more excitement, fun, tension than this one. Many other slots where you play 2000+ spins will give you numerous bonuses in which each have the thrill of giving you very, very nice multipliers. The build up to get Swarm mode is not a little too long, it's crazy way too long. It's like running a marathon, winning it, and find out you just won a pair of socks. It's not a mystery why you never see streamers play this slot. It's just wrongly constructed. The swarm levels and the hyve are prominently visible, making it the super exciting key feature of the game. Setting that of to the potential winnings it's just not worthwhile playing it. So I follow the advice of the OP topic title from now on. Maybe you should too PS: I started playing this game, then got frustrated, then found this topic here, then decided to finish it off for the sake of it and some useless statistics. PS2: I made a recording of the Swarm mode play on my mobile but sound recording got messed up, It was only a 100x, so I didn't bother to upload it. Quote Link to comment
accromachine Posted 19 February, 2021 Share Posted 19 February, 2021 On 16/10/2018 at 12:36, m0rphaza said: I didnt do this myself but one guy on YouTube just reached level 5 with 0,2 Pound bet and then switched to 2 pound as soon as the hive was level 5. I think he got like 15 bees before the hive exploded. I accually thought the bonus would be like the Yggdrasil games that they scale to what bet you progressed with. This game has a huge potential. But it's all about the luck. I've had more big hits on this than bonanza for sure. So it's all in the RNG ?? Does anybody else tried that?!? Reach to level 5 with a small bets and then switch to higher bets? The levels are not tied with the bets?! The levels don't don't start back when you change denom? Because if that is true, than it looks like a major advantage... Quote Link to comment
vanHooff Posted 19 February, 2021 Share Posted 19 February, 2021 6 hours ago, accromachine said: Does anybody else tried that?!? yes, dozens of people have tried, including me .Reach to level 5 with a small bets and then switch to higher bets? exactly The levels are not tied with the bets?! no The levels don't don't start back when you change denom? no they don't Because if that is true, than it looks like a major advantage... it looks like a major advantage but it is not. Popping the hyve on the last stage could take forever or the final bonus payout could disappoint. 1 Quote Link to comment
GenoNow Posted 23 January, 2023 Share Posted 23 January, 2023 i just got the bonus and will upload to tiktok tomorrow, https://www.tiktok.com/@genonow?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc Quote Link to comment
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