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This game is pathetic. 
You will reach level 5. Then it will take thousands of thousands of spins and never active the Wild Swarm mode. 

And probably when you get it, after a million spins it will be totally shit anyway. 

Stay away. Play better games like Danger, Queen of Riches, Bonanza for example. 

You have been warned. 

Now maybe someone will post a big win of this game to prove I am wrong but well, maybe 1 in 1.000 people actually activate the Wild Swarm without loosing 1 million dollars before.

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@fraudmaud

Hi Fraudmaud,

Thanks for the feedback on our game, we are sorry that you didn't enjoy it as much as we had hoped. We understand the concerns you have raised about
the swarm mode being difficult to achieve however this has to be the case for us to offer the level of payouts which we do when it is reached. The math has been certified and has an RTP of 97.03. Now obviously with these kinds of games, the nature of probability comes into play and some players will achieve the swarm mode faster than others. We again are sorry you didn't enjoy this release from us and we know that its not always possible to please everybody but hopefully this explanation has answered some of your concerns and hopefully you will be able to enjoy the game as on the whole it has been a huge hit with large numbers of our customers.

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On 06/07/2018 at 15:42, Push Gaming said:

@fraudmaud

Hi Fraudmaud,

Thanks for the feedback on our game, we are sorry that you didn't enjoy it as much as we had hoped. We understand the concerns you have raised about
the swarm mode being difficult to achieve however this has to be the case for us to offer the level of payouts which we do when it is reached. The math has been certified and has an RTP of 97.03. Now obviously with these kinds of games, the nature of probability comes into play and some players will achieve the swarm mode faster than others. We again are sorry you didn't enjoy this release from us and we know that its not always possible to please everybody but hopefully this explanation has answered some of your concerns and hopefully you will be able to enjoy the game as on the whole it has been a huge hit with large numbers of our customers.

I won 100x. I was betting 2 euros for insane amounts of spins and my win was 200 euro during Wild Swarm mode. 
That is not really good and I will stick to the likes of Danger, Queen of Riches and White Rabbit instead that has huge potentiaaaleee. 

I am yet to see a 1.000x+ win on Wild Swarm mode on Youtube. Is it even possible?
It should be possible with a 10.000x win considering how hard it was to reach the mode. 
All of my fellow gambling peeps also reporting only 50-100x wins in the mode. 

No, I don't like this slot and I won't play it again. Neither recommending it to anyone. 
Play this slot with great caution and low bets if you must play it.

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yes i have now a swarm after 1000 spins still no luck i activeted the swarm 3 times but now its ridiculously how much you need to invest and it seems the other bonusese are also noth coming in that much, i like the game verry much but after this i kinda hate the game ?

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I didnt do this myself but one guy on YouTube just reached level 5 with 0,2 Pound bet and then switched to 2 pound as soon as the hive was level 5.

I think he got like 15 bees before the hive exploded.

I accually thought the bonus would be like the Yggdrasil games that they scale to what bet you progressed with.

 

This game has a huge potential. But it's all about the luck. I've had more big hits on this than bonanza for sure. So it's all in the RNG ??

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On 04/07/2018 at 22:16, gingerafro said:

also extra raped, the 50/50 on the gamble does not add up as u lose that gamble 90% of the time. lol

But but but it's 50/50 then 60/40 in your favour according to BTG. Perhaps they can comment and clear that up for us poor souls who have lost thousands on the gamble wheel. @Big Time Gaming official

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11 hours ago, AyrshireCSC said:

But but but it's 50/50 then 60/40 in your favour according to BTG. Perhaps they can comment and clear that up for us poor souls who have lost thousands on the gamble wheel. @Big Time Gaming official

This is well documented on here and other forums, what you see is what you get with Extra Chilli - the first gamble is 50/50 and the rest are 60/40 odds on (in your favour).

 

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2 hours ago, Big Time Gaming official said:

This is well documented on here and other forums, what you see is what you get with Extra Chilli - the first gamble is 50/50 and the rest are 60/40 odds on (in your favour).

 

Are there any stats that can be provided to back up this claim? Having played this game extensively in the past on multiple casinos the gamble from 12 to 16 hits perhaps 1 in 4 or 5 times over a large volume of spins. Don't actually disagree much with the first wheel odds.

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There is no dispute in the math it's 60/40 in the players favour on each single spin after the initial spin from 8. What you need to remember is the odds roll. From the first spin to get to 24 is a 1 in 10 chance. However, if you get enough scatters to start at 20 then the single gamble is 60/40 in your favour, these are the hard stats for getting 24 spins:

0.5 x 0.6 x 0.6 x 0.6 = 0.108 or 1 in 10

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8 hours ago, Big Time Gaming official said:

There is no dispute in the math it's 60/40 in the players favour on each single spin after the initial spin from 8. What you need to remember is the odds roll. From the first spin to get to 24 is a 1 in 10 chance. However, if you get enough scatters to start at 20 then the single gamble is 60/40 in your favour, these are the hard stats for getting 24 spins:

0.5 x 0.6 x 0.6 x 0.6 = 0.108 or 1 in 10

even as i know the odds sometimes People just cant believe it. i once lost around 20 buyins all on first gamble. noone got over 12 spins and most lost in 8 to 12. in These Situation you just Start to disbelive the odds See Real 

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10 hours ago, Big Time Gaming official said:

There is no dispute in the math it's 60/40 in the players favour on each single spin after the initial spin from 8. What you need to remember is the odds roll. From the first spin to get to 24 is a 1 in 10 chance. However, if you get enough scatters to start at 20 then the single gamble is 60/40 in your favour, these are the hard stats for getting 24 spins:

0.5 x 0.6 x 0.6 x 0.6 = 0.108 or 1 in 10

So just to be sure i understand it correct. If i get 8 spins from start, then there is 10% chance i will get 24 spins if i gamble all the way?

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9 minutes ago, BTGKinG said:

So just to be sure i understand it correct. If i get 8 spins from start, then there is 10% chance i will get 24 spins if i gamble all the way?

Thats what is being said....in reality though...hmm. As I mentioned on the other Chilli thread, RNG has to come into it as well somewhere so its going to be a very complex algorithm. I still think that maths above is completely misleading as it depends surely on other factors such as RNG

 

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Ive hit Wild swarm whilst playing at just £0.40 spins, it paid £328, but i agree with some comments Bonanza can take hundreds of spins to drop for example i autoplayed my way through some 1000 spins yesterday and the bonus didn't drop, however my balance when starting was at £420 and playing £0.40p spins my balance after the mass autoplays was £365 so i was lucky to only lose £55 from nearly 1000 spins. It sucks how its so hard to bonus but its also great that it doesn't cost you the world to try and get it.

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1600 spins later (not counting the spins I hade to make to reach the max level) SIXTEEN HUNDRED SPINS. Can you imagine how much money I've been lured in to consuming to trigger this bonus? @Push Gaming First of all, it feels like you lower the drop rate of bees as soon as you reach the max level. Second of all, there is no such indication of the success rate of triggering the wild swarm. I mean is it a fixed number? So after reaching level 5 there is a range between 1-50 bees you have to get to trigger? Or is it a 5% trigger chance as well as a random chance of a bee triggering?

I believe some of these questions should (if not even that you are obliged to answer them) be answered
Both for your customers sake, but as well for your credability in the community.

I've seen you answer in this thread but you didn't adress anyone really. So please Adress me.


I've calculated that on average I reach a bee every 5 spins (roughly 1000 spins sample) when I've not maxed out the swarm level. Whereof I only get a bee every 20-25 spins (1600 spins sample) after I've maxed out the swarm level. If this is calculated then I believe you are tricking your audiences?

Regards,

Schleem

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This is the Problem with this collector Slots.Most times it ends disappointing.In fairness I have to say that I tried swarm once with bets from 2-20 euro.

Once I hit the final Level it took only 10-15 spins and second bee activated on 10 € stake. Result around 250x. I do not know what I spend to get there but in General 

Ok ,some nice bonuses inbetween. It is what is but I prefer the non collector Slots.(Thats why I do not like holydiver from the start).In fairnes to PUSH there are People

who never won anything on JamminJars but as we all know there is huge potential.Just for some of this megapotent Slots they skip some Players and pay some

enormously.

 I for example never had mor than 200 x  on Bonanza and believe me I tried hard;-)

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