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Bank clerk steals 22 million SEK (2,2M€) and spends it all on LeoVegas

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News hit Swedish media today regarding a woman working at Nordea Bank who financed her gambling addiction by stealing from 28 separate customers for a whopping sum of 22 100 000 SEK (2,1m €)

 

She spent it all on Leo Vegas - where she clicked slots for over 300 000 000 SEK (30m€). She even won 2 million SEK and bought a car, then gambled the rest away.

 

During this _one year_ period of time, LeoVegas VIP-managers encouraged her to continue playing on their site, giving her Apple-products (Macbooks, iPads, iPhones), trips to Mexico - they even gave her free spins, bonuses, promotions not available to other players just to keep her playing.

 

She was sentensed 3.5 years in prison and to return all the stolen money to the bank.

 

This is fucking embarrasing, the largest casino site out there, not even raising an eyebrow, claiming to "care about their customers".

 

I really wish this was a joke, but it is not. Shame, shame, shame on LeoVegas and to be honest, this casino streaming-business has to stop. So many people are suffering from gambling addiction, it's not even funny. 

 

In before all "Everyone has their own free will" - well, you are clearly not even old enough to have your own bank account if you really can not see gambling addiction is a disease that needs to be treated. 

 

Have a fucking nice day.

 

Source (in Swedish)

 

https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/krim/a/RxBdkA/stal-miljoner-fran-nordeakunder-far-fangelsestraff

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Best of it all is that the article is filled with ads from Casumo and Cherry. The press on their high horses. 9_9 

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Prime example of how much casinos cares about gamble protection... Sure it all looks good with the possibilities to make depo limits and so on... But here we see, as long as the casino is making money they won't be checking up on gamblers.. Even less on "problem" gamblers.. 2,2mil €.. And not even a question about where the money came from... 

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4 hours ago, Tindertompa said:

Best of it all is that the article is filled with ads from Casumo and Cherry. The press on their high horses. 9_9 

Sure we all know ads nowadays all come from your Cookie-history and what you search for and what kind of pages you visit. But I totally agree, it really do look bad if an article is about someone who's addicted to gambling and has commited crimes to continue playing, is also filled with casino ads. But the ads probably are funded by this womans losses on Leo anyway so... 8-)

 

 

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How is Casino streaming at fault here? This is an isolated case. Has absolutely nothing to do with streamers!

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25 minutes ago, SuperSmask said:

How is Casino streaming at fault here? This is an isolated case. Has absolutely nothing to do with streamers!

It has none connection at all. I see casinostreaming as entertainment and not as an instruction. I have rules when I play online and one of them is to put a limit on my daily deposit amount or else I know it can go wrong and the fun is over. 

I once started a topic about how to play online and what to be careful about. One of them is never to play at a casino without limits, if casinogrounds fell like it, they can surely take some of my advices and make a topic about gambling online (a cop of coffee is the price if I once go to Sweden and visit some of the streamers).

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Violation of T&C, do NOT write about harming other people

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16 hours ago, sunzzx said:

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are you claiming they knew she was stealing money from a bank?

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17 minutes ago, Slotspinner said:

someone losing 300k euro on one and same casino lets say within a year doesnt ring any bells?

 

 

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I don't see how streamers can be blamed for this.

Casinos do attract high rollers. I once had a chat with the owner of one online casino and he told me how much "proper" high rollers deposit. I makes the likes of the Bandit, Rocknrolla etc look like amateurs (single deposits of £20,000 are regular deposits for these high rollers).

But having said all of that, Leovegas should have done a "Source of Wealth" request to verify the origin of the funds.

But having said that, if she works for a bank she probably has the knowledge to hide some of the stealing that a casino may not spot when doing due diligence checks.

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Not a streamers fault, not anybodies fault really, but certainly expenditure like that on a casino site should be flagged (probably why new checks ask what your job is and where your money for gambling comes from). Also, how did the bank not notice this money going missing over that period of time (assuming it was dripped out of the accounts over time).

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This is the perfect crime if you are smart due to sweden barely never giving long sentences in prison. 

Steal the 2.2m euros, place the money abroad, crypto or something else.

Get sentenced to 3.5 years in a swedish prison which is not that bad actually. Like a kindergarten for adults. 

After 3-3.5 years, move outside EU and live a good life. 

Since the bank has paid all people who got stolen she wont have any people after her that want to hurt her either and since she goes down under outside EU like India, Brasil or something like that there is nothing the bank can do but she cant ever have a normal life in Sweden again though. 

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@fraudmaud If you seriously think the justice system works like that, then you are in for a surprise. You do not think that they would track the money?

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Not to give any tips but you can make your money dissapear with crypto exchanges etc.

 

Or you could literally cash it out and just hide it :tf:

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@sunzzx Consider this a first and last warning. Writing about someone getting hurt is a serious matter and we will not tolerate that. I have edited your original post.

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You shouldn't believe everything  you read in the papers online. Clickbait is a big(the biggest?) part of their income.  ;)

Don't think we heard the last of this yet. 

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I don't think that this woman has seen any streamers and thought to her self: I want to be like those guys!!!

 

But I do however think alot of viewers are teens or young adults that look up to many of the streamers and spend all their money on slots, or want to become streamers themselves. And that casino streamers - in the long run - get people into online slots and that streamers contribute to the problem, which is a big problem in Sweden. Gambling addiction even got declared as a disease in which you can get treatment for. I'm not putting the blame on anyone except this woman, but online casinos, streamers, Affiliate-partners etc needs to step up and  really  perhaps spend one of their streams talking about it. There's no hiding it, just look around in these forums alone. 

 

NS113 out *mic drop*

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@Nosound113 just yesterday I know for sure @Smackdowncasino talked about gambling problems. Im pretty sure that, from what I've seen, every CG streamer, talks about it when the subject is brought up in chat. Don't know what more you want us to do. I would say streamers raise more awareness, than any non streaming affiliate site. And btw streaming is a very small market for the casinos, its still niche compared to others.

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5 hours ago, Skylined87 said:

@sunzzx Consider this a first and last warning. Writing about someone getting hurt is a serious matter and we will not tolerate that. I have edited your original post.

hahaha r u srs

 

i might argue someone losing millions on leovegas is the bigger issue here with leovegas doing literally nothing about it.

 

you could of edited that 1 part out not remoeve the whole text, truth hurts, and i mean leovegas is paying your "mod LUL"  paycheck

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and about the streamers/affiliates.

they literally do NOT care if your an addict or for responsible gambling, why the fuck would they when they make BANK, all of it is an act.

why do you think all the affs became affs in first place? to put forward responsible gambling or make BANK?

when gambling is literally the biggest addiction and most dangerous shit out there?

 

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10 hours ago, sunzzx said:

hahaha r u srs

 

i might argue someone losing millions on leovegas is the bigger issue here with leovegas doing literally nothing about it.

 

you could of edited that 1 part out not remoeve the whole text, truth hurts, and i mean leovegas is paying your "mod LUL"  paycheck

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and about the streamers/affiliates.

they literally do NOT care if your an addict or for responsible gambling, why the fuck would they when they make BANK, all of it is an act.

why do you think all the affs became affs in first place? to put forward responsible gambling or make BANK?

when gambling is literally the biggest addiction and most dangerous shit out there?

 

Where in the article does it say this woman signed up through an affiliate link or found the casino via an affiliate website or streamer?

If gambling is the biggest addiction and so dangerous, then perhaps lobby Governments to get it banned altogether. That would be more productive in my opinion.

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Everyone has their own will in the end  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Even tho in the end, slots and casinos(Online and landbased) are designed to get you playing and to keep you playing. Of course they make most of their money on addicts, not on people that play 2-3 times a year. I will not defend that they do that, but if you find yourself in trouble, because you're gambling too much, then you can always find help with that.

 

However i still think a lot of the casino streamers gamble responsible. Sure they make some higher bets compared to a few people, but if they have more money that's less for them in the end. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What i'm saying is, don't play for more than you can afford and gg, if you constantly have problems because of gambling get some help.

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This story reminds me of the infamous Brian Molony case, look it up on google if you like, there's also a movie about it called "Owning Mahowny", starring Philip Seymour Hoffman. It's one of the most fascinating and depressing movies I've seen in a while, and the way Leovegas has handled this reminds me a lot of how the casino management does business in the movie (which is of course the same way they handle things in real life). You might wanna have a look at the story and/or the movie, especially if you'd like to see what gambling addiction in its purest form looks like.

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@walrusbeard I'll take a look at that movie as I've seen it mentioned elsewhere.

The really sad part of this story for me is the fact that a person has just ruined their life (for now) after being gripped by a force beyond their control. It really shows how much gambling can take a hold of your mind and make you do crazy shit. Scary and sad.

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On 2018-04-26 at 15:48, SuperSmask said:

@Nosound113 just yesterday I know for sure @Smackdowncasino talked about gambling problems. Im pretty sure that, from what I've seen, every CG streamer, talks about it when the subject is brought up in chat. Don't know what more you want us to do. I would say streamers raise more awareness, than any non streaming affiliate site. And btw streaming is a very small market for the casinos, its still niche compared to others.

 

Well sure streamers talk about it. But do they really care? If I were a person who said to people " This thing here is cool, you should check it out!" and that later on, that thing turned out to be a massive faceroll (like in this case) I would make a clear statement telling people "I just received news about the thing I talked about, please stay away from it as it seems like the thing is not quite OK afterall!" 

 

But streamers get their money from the affiliation programme, so WHY would they step away from a big pile of garbage if the garbage is the one providing the bankroll.

 

* The Thing = LeoVegas. 

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